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    • OwnedbyStanley
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        I’ve always disagreed with animal testing but in the past never really let it affect me, however, since owning Stanley I have become more aware and bothered about it, as I now understand love for an animal much more than I used to! One of my fave brands at the moment is Bodyshop (which never test and even have a petition to ban animal testing on all cosmetics in England) and I have switched to cleaning with “Method” products as they use no dangerous chemicals, don’t test and are much safer to use around Stanley. I wanted to switch all my cosmetics and products to animal friendly but can only find American brand lists on this. Does anyone know which brands in England are cruelty free? Also, does anyone know a cruelty free air freshener that works? I haven’t found a “Method” one but not entirely convinced Febreeze is ethical, despite what they try to claim.


      • tobyluv
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          I’m in the U.S. and I have no idea if this brand of air freshener is sold there, but I like to use gg (Grab Green). It is a room and fabric freshener, made from naturally derived ingredients. It is a pump spay, not tested on animals and contains no phthalates, a chemical to be avoided, which is found in most air fresheners. I actually only use this in the bathroom, and not anywhere near my rabbits, since I don’t think they would appreciate the scents, even though they are natural essential oils. This company also makes all purpose spray cleaners, glass cleaners, etc.

          Another brand that I have used in the past is Citrus Magic, a natural spray made from citrus oils, and it’s a cruelty free product. Maybe you could find that in England. I know that it’s sold on Amazon.


        • sarahthegemini
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            Depending on your viewpoint on parent companies, The Body Shop is now owned by L’Oréal (yeah, they sold out…)

            I’m more of a nail polish fanatic, I’ll list all the cruelty free brands of nail polish I know:
            China glaze
            Zoya
            Butter London
            Barry M
            Models Own
            Leighton Denny
            Illamasqua
            Nails Inc

            All Superdrug’s own brand products are cruelty free. I use their shampoos, conditioners, shower gels, hand cream, nail polish remover, lip balm etc


          • Anna
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              I’ve always referred to the PETA cruelty-free list, which is online here:
              http://features.peta.org/cruelty-free-company-search/index.aspx

              I’m not a big fan of their campaign tactics, but I assume you can trust PETA to be stringent in their criteria for the list!


            • sarahthegemini
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                ^ ^ The problem with peta is they don’t seem to take parent companies into account (for example I’m sure the likes of OPI and Sally Hansen are considered cruelty free but they are owned by Coty which ISN’T)


              • OwnedbyStanley
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                  Thanks for the info, I’ll keep an eye out for the products you mentioned! The parent companies is a pain, it makes you wonder if any company is actually as ethical as they say! Will just try my best to go for the most ethical option- cleaning products now cost me three times the price, but it’s worth it to know I’m giving profit to a (hopefully) more caring company!


                • sarahthegemini
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                    For cleaning, you could go the total natural route and use lemon juice, vinegar, baking soda etc as they are very good at cleaning a lot of things


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                      Agreeing with Sarah on what she is saying about keeping an eye out for who companies are owned by. Going cruelty free is a lot more tricky than you might think I’ve recently found out. There are a lot of companies that say their products aren’t tested on animals but this isn’t actually the case, they commission their testing from china so can technically say they don’t animal test. I’ve read that original source (which is one of those things that immediately comes to mind as being really ethical) actually isn’t cruelty free. Apparently the only way of really knowing is if it has the leaping bunny logo on it. Superdrug has this on their own brand products. It’s really great to see Aldi have also got this on the majority of their things now so that’s a great place to get cleaning products that don’t cost the earth


                    • Reesebun
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                        Even if febreeze is cruelty free, I wouldn’t use it because if febreeze is bad for humans, it must be really bad for bunnies.


                      • sarahthegemini
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                          Eddyw111 has a great point – if a company sells in china, it isn’t cruelty free.

                          I wouldn’t say it was difficult necessarily to go cruelty free. You just have to ask the right questions. I always email the parent companies of brands (China glaze for example is owned by American International Industries so I contacted them) A lot of companies these days are cruelty free but because you have to pay for the leaping bunny certification, a lot of companies forgo it so again, do your own research

                          I always ask 1) Do you test your finished products on animals 2) do you test your ingredients on animals or do you purchase from suppliers that test on animals 3) are your products vegan

                          Again, I ask the parent companies these questions.


                        • LittlePuffyTail
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                            I only buy cruelty-free. It’s just awful that this is still happening. Many countries have plans in motion to ban it (and some already have!) but things are not moving fast enough in my opinion.

                            In US and Canada too (I believe, but not sure about elsewhere) there is no regulations as to claiming to be cruelty-free. Packages can say “Against Animal Testing” or “Not Tested on Animals” but that really doesn’t mean anything if there is no proof to back it up. 

                            Some of my fave Cruelty-Free brands are: Andalou Naturals, Avalon Organics, Kiss my Face and Lush (I LOVE the Lush store but there is none in my City. so I go nuts and stock up when I’m shopping out of town).


                          • LBJ10
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                              Leaping Bunny is a good place to start. But, like Sarah said, not all cruelty-free companies are listed.

                              I’m really liking Fresh Thyme’s new body care products, but I can’t find information anywhere on whether or not they truly are cruelty-free. The labels say cruelty-free and vegan.


                            • Azerane
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                                I’ve recently started trying to buy more cruelty free products. I have no reason not to except not having looked too hard into it before. I don’t wear make up, but I do obviously use cleaning products, and use moisturisers etc. I actually discovered that the brand of cleaning products I already buy is cruelty free. I had trouble recently wanting to find a cruelty free brand for my moisturiser, and I had to go through an awful trial and error of trying various products which resulted in about a month of eczema on my face. I have sensitive skin so I can’t just pick any cruelty free brand, there was a brand I really liked for their eczema cream, but I tried their other creams had a huge eczema episode Natural Instinct also has the side benefit of most (if not all) of their products being vegan friendly, I’m not vegan or even vegetarian, but it’s still a nice aspect when shopping for cruelty free.


                              • Muchelle
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                                  I’m pretty sure ELF is cruelty free! I used to buy from them when they had EU free shipping events. Another good brand is Neve Cosmetics, which is italian but it ships in europe. It’s vegan friendly and very high quality, so I’d give it a try if you like their stuff

                                  As for Italy we have strict rules against animal testing that’s not crucial to medical research, so there’s generally a good choice of stuff for us ^^


                                • jerseygirl
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                                    This UK company might interest you: http://www.faithinnature.co.uk/criteria/criteria.aspx

                                    I quite like this guide and the author does explain some of the differences with cruelty-free branding.
                                    http://www.crueltyfreekitty.com/list-of-cruelty-free-brands/

                                    Here’s a search feature to find leaping bunny certified products for your country:

                                    http://www.crueltyfreeinternational.org/LeapingBunny 

                                    I found Method is on there. On the Method site, I couldn’t find the air freshener, but did see they have “fragrance boosters” in the Laundry section. I wonder if you can make your own air freshener sprays using those? 

                                    I don’t tend to use sprays but I have some fragrant soy candles. Are you looking for something that neutralises odours or just a general room fragrance product? 

                                    ETA: There is a leaping bunny app for iphone or android    http://www.leapingbunny.org/guide/apps


                                  • jerseygirl
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                                      Sarah, you’ll be glad to know that Loreal no longer own The Body Shop. They did for about 10 years but it was sold to Natura Cosmeticos this year. So the The Body Shop may start gaining a better cruelty-free status again. It’s a shame it got sold to Loreal in the 1st place though.

                                      ETA: Just read this, it had a little more info about Natura.  http://www.friendlyandfree.com/body-shop-cruelty-free-sold-natura-cosmeticos/


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                                        Posted By jerseygirl on 11/04/2017 7:49 AM

                                        Sarah, you’ll be glad to know that Loreal no longer own The Body Shop. They did for about 10 years but it was sold to Natura Cosmeticos this year. So the The Body Shop may start gaining a better cruelty-free status again. It’s a shame it got sold to Loreal in the 1st place though.

                                        ETA: Just read this, it had a little more info about Natura.  http://www.friendlyandfree.com/body-shop-cruelty-free-sold-natura-cosmeticos/

                                        Oh really? That’s awesome. Thanks for letting me know!


                                      • sarahthegemini
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                                          Yep Muchelle , ELF is cruelty free


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                                            Posted By sarahthegemini on 11/04/2017 9:36 AM

                                            Yep Muchelle , ELF is cruelty free

                                            yay! I loved their pure pigment serie… sadly it was never sold in stores over here, so after a while I stopped ordering it cause it was getting too expensive  


                                          • LittlePuffyTail
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                                              Glad to hear about the Body Shop, Jersey!!!! I was very iffy about shopping there before but I love their English Rose scented products. Mmmmmmmm

                                              Going Cruelty Free is obviously great for the animals but it also has the benefit of being better for the planet (most cruely free companies are more environmentally conscious) as well much better for your own body or home (usually the focus of most of these products is on more natural ingredients and less harsh chemicals). I’m so glad I made the switch years ago…..most mainstream products not only test but are really bad for your health……


                                            • Sirius&Luna
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                                                I’ve been trying to switch to all cruelty free products too.

                                                Lush is another good UK brand, I bought one of their foundations recently, and really like it. Barry M too.

                                                I’ve really struggled to find shampoo and conditioner, I just can’t believe how many things DON’T have the leaping bunny on them.

                                                And yes, Body Shop is no longer owned by Loreal.

                                                My vegan friend also told me that all of the co op’s own brand cleaning products are cruelty free.


                                              • OwnedbyStanley
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                                                  Thank you so much, this is exactly what I was looking for! Had a look at the Leaping Bunny one and nice to see so many big companies being cruelty free, as well as opening my eyes up to ones that aren’t! Will download the app now!

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