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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A torn Tendon !!

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    • NoviTheSweetie
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        my rabbit is 4 and a half month old, his name is novi a white nuddy rabbit, loves to play and love to get pet. he having 24/7 free house time and around 5-6 hours a week in a cage.

        yesterday he jumped in the cage and injured himself.

        his middle finger goes to the above the right one.. he was really in pain but manage to play but for be safe i tought maybe taking him to a vent.

        i took him to some local vet he was really no feeling to animals, seems only money is his deal, and this month really short on money so i dont have more money to take him to another vet to take another opinion.

        he saying its the first time he treating and seeing thing like that the finger of my rabbit have torn tendon and he saying the rabbit need to remove his finger away becuase if we dont do it novi will do it for him self.. its hard to belive that he so sure for it when he never see or treat something like this… i really cried like a baby yesterday im really love novi.. its one of his kind for me. the question is it really necceary to remove his finger?! or he can live like that i just now bandage his finger to make it be in the right place maybe it will heal ? and the vet only want the money for the surgery ? its really hard for me .. and belive that he will eat is own flash for remove the finger seems like a scary movie idea

        any suggetions or experince with stuff like this ?

        hope to get a reply fast

        Din and Novi 


      • Bam
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          I’m not sure about that vet’s advice. If a bunny is in pain or a limb is cut off from blood-supply, the rabbit can, in rare cases, gnaw off the toe or foot that is hurting, that is true, but it’s not really a scary movie-thing. It’s not like he will eat the hurt toe, he just wants to stop the pain. Have you seen your rabbit try to bite at his toe? Did the vet gice you any type of painkiller? A painkiller is important.

          Is the toe blue? Is there a lot of swelling? Can you get us a photo of it? What country are you in?

          Is your bunny eating, drinking and pooping?


        • NoviTheSweetie
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            that toe is cover with bandage. it happened in the night, and i was with him all night hugging and petting him till the vet. well he really scared he usally really happyy bunny but he always sleeping and under my bed since then.. the vet gave him a shot of painkillers till today for cutting off his finger, im really want to cancel it.. i think cutting the finger off its too hard isnt it ?  he sometimes coming out from under the bed to get some food and drinking so waters and for lik me for abit before running under the bed again, 

            the vet said he feeling pain in the finger becuase when he touchs it he going like crazy becuase its hurting him..

            but before we went to the vent yes he lik/bite his foot but seems like its did not cause him problem he jupmed to my bed and chair (around 0.5m in the air with no problem)..

            im really love him we are really bound.. he sleep with me alot and all the time sitting next to me.. is he really need to do a surgey to remove his finger?

            and not not blue mark no blood.. its just stock above is toe (middle finger above the toe)


          • Bam
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              I spoke to my mother who is a physiotherapist for humans. If your bunny were a human, you’d give pain meds and try to put the toe in it’s proper place and fixate it against the next toe so there’s no movement in the hurt toe. It’s called a Hollywood bandage or supportive taping. Then let heal, but keep a close eye. You could perhaps ask your vet about this? You can put an E-collar on a rabbit to prevent it from chewing at the toe. With proper pain-management, the bun might not be interested in chewing at the toe. 

              What I’m guessing your vet is fearing is that the toe has lost it’s blood supply and the tissue won’t be able to get oxygen and nutrients. This can mean that necrosis (tissue death) gets a chance to spread up the rabbit’s foot and if that happens, you’ll need to amputate the whole foot, maybe a big part of the leg. You obviously don’t want that. Is the toe cold? 


            • Bam
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                With a Hollywood bandage you put a tiny distance between the toes that you fixate together, just a tiny piece of a compress. The best tape-option is a type of tape called kinesio-tape, because it’s easy to remove. To my mother it did seem a bit rash to cut the toe off as a first measure. There are risks.

                If you get a Hollywood bandage you’ll need to keep a close eye and inspect the foot several times a day. You should not just look but also smell it. Infection causes a bad smell, so there must never be a bad smell. A rabbit might try to remove a bandage, so an E-collar that he can wear when you are not around is good. He can’t wear an E-collar all the time though because he needs to eat and drink and groom himself.


              • NoviTheSweetie
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                  its not blue and there is not blood dropping and all..
                  he not chowing the finger, its seems like he get used to hit.
                  the pet shop owner(he really knows alot of stuff about rabbits) told me that the vet(in israel) only wants money and dont care about my little rabbit. he told me to bandage it and every few days to replace the bandage for couple of weeks and the finger will be healed (even if not return return to fully healing but for semi heal) with scar is he right ? all the vets saying he not having pain in the toe that cause him any trouble


                • Bam
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                    I’m not a vet so I can’t give medical advice, actually not even a vet would do that without having seen the rabbit’s foot. But it does seem a bit too much to cut the finger off when he doesn’t seem to want to bite it. Can you see if the skin on the toe is pinkish or if it’s graying? Pink is good.

                    Is this on the back foot or a fore-foot (arm)? If it were my rabbit and I had no other vet I could see, I think I’d try first with a bandage, but keep a really close eye. Don’t wrap too tighly, it should be firm but not so tight it hinders the blood flow. This is very important.

                    Your bunny might always have one foot that’s a little different from a normal rabbit’s foot, but that’s how things are sometimes.


                  • Hazel
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                      If it really is a torn tendon, wouldn’t it need surgery to heal properly? I guess it’s sort of like a rubber band? Once it snaps, it wouldn’t stretch back into place and reattach itself, right? It would need to be reattached via surgery, I would think. I don’t know, but every time I knew of someone with a torn tendon, they had to have surgery.

                      In a weird twist, I just noticed what seems like the exact same thing with our bun. We were clipping his nails the other day and one of his toes didn’t look right. It’s pointing slightly upwards from it’s normal position, just like the OP said. We manipulated the toe, there didn’t seem to be any obvious breaks or dislocations, and there was no pain response. The only other thing we noticed was a bit of swelling right at the tip. I have no idea how long it’s been like this, because he hasn’t been limping whatsoever, and still runs and binkies like nothing is wrong. My first thought was a torn tendon as well, but I wouldn’t put him through surgery for that, especially since it doesn’t seem to bother him. I guess it might make sense to remove the toe or try to fix it if it was turning downward rather than up, since that would probably cause pain when running around.

                      Novi, I wouldn’t have the toe removed, you could bandage it up like bam said, if your bun allows it, and see if it gets better. But as long as there’s no discomfort and the toe is otherwise healthy, I wouldn’t do anything further.


                    • Bam
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                        Hazel, if a tendon has ruptured completely like human Achilles’ tendons sometimes do, they won’t heal unless the torn ends are sewn together. But very often, a tendon is only partially torn. Then it can heal, but it takes a long time.
                        And I totally agree, you should never put an animal through surgery unless it’s absolutely necessary.


                      • NoviTheSweetie
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                          they took a alook in the feet, both of them saying its the first time seeing something like that, they dont want to take an x ray to be sure it cant heal.

                          so i dont take them for reall seems like the money and not the best for the rabbit..

                          today i took the badange off the finger seems to be in is place… he jumped around and was really happy that he can jump again he lik his foot alot.. sure it was not comfortbale under the bandage for two days.. 

                          the pet shop told me that they dont care about the rabbit, he took a look on his foot and told me to do as a human with something hard against his foot to keep the finger in place, and a badange and a alastic bandage above every 2 days take them off and let the blood stream about half an hour. and then again for a couple off weeks, he just shown me 2 videos, about a rabbit with a broken ancle in the foot, and after 2 weeks the rabbit start to walk again, so its seems like he knows what he saying.. and there is nothing he gets for what he saying so i think he wants the best for him..

                          poor novi he trying to get the bandage off 


                        • NoviTheSweetie
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                            its not seems like his in pain or anything, he pooping as normal as he was, and peeing . and able to run and eat and drink and even starting to play for a bit..

                            i think the finger its pink, took a smell of his finger today its seems there is no smell (broke finger 3 days ago) its a good sign right?


                          • Bam
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                              That’s a very good sign! And honestly, all of it sounds good. He’s eating, drinking, pooping, even playing.
                              A broken toe will heal, we’ve had bunnies here before with broken toes and even broken legs that have healed fine. A completely torn tendon is actually worse than a broken bone, bone is “self-mending” as long as the broken ends are positioned right and kept in place.
                              So it does sound like you are doing everything right. The pet shop-guy sounds like a good person


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                                yeah the second vet said its a broken finger.. yeah he seems like he starting to return him self, even with the bandage on his foot he able to run like crazy and binky around the room even back to lik me (:

                                today ill replace his bandage with new ones ill give an update on it how his foot


                              • Bam
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                                  It sounds so great! We’ll be very happy for more updates!
                                  Is he still on pain-medication? If he isn’t, it’s ok for him to run around and play, but if he is on strong pain meds, he shouldn’t play wildly because then there is no pain-signal to tell him when to rest.


                                • NoviTheSweetie
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                                    no he not in a pain meds at all, he dont seems to be in any pain at all..
                                    here some photos of him from right now.. he dont want to get back into new badange he really fight not to get into the new badange, and h fighting really hard today so im afraid he will break another finger\foot so im not getting him for new badange right now.. 
                                    well i took the badange off him, it had some smell of pee, maybe he pee and walk around it in night, so i wash his foots, and wait for few hours.. sems the finger is like scar thing (return into place but little bit up but not goes into left side) the finger its self is pink and he not betting the finger. and there is no smell at all. 
                                    here a photos of him from now, and his foot hope to hear you guys think  

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                                    its seems like its a bit hard for it to walk in this foot maybe becuase he got used to be in a bandage and its unormal for him be without it


                                  • Bam
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                                      He’s very cute!
                                      I think he’s better off without the bandage if it stresses him out so much. Since he’s not on pain meds, it’s not as risky as if he were on strong meds.
                                      His foot will probably always look like that, like a little goat’s foot.


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                                        thx 

                                        i just notice that his foot is swollen (the hurt one) maybe becuase of the badange that he had for couple of days? when i removed the bandage the foot was really sweaty and its seems its a bit hard for him to talk in the feet but there is no pain as i see he still acting normal playing and binky around  eating pooping and peeing. and mood for play just wash his foot again to see the blood stream its pink

                                        i dont have anymore money for vet for till end of next month  just paid for this broken finger for 2 vet opinion 300$ (my country really expensive)

                                        so dont really have money for vet.

                                        he still loves his treats and able to stand on 2 feets, jump and run but seems it a little bit hard for him on this broken finger foot here a picutre of two of his feets

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                                        i think today its a bit better then yesterday 


                                      • Bam
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                                          Is there an open wound on the foot? A wound that is bleeding?
                                          Swelling is to be considered normal with a broken toe, but if it is a swollen wound, it could mean the wound is infected.


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                                            no there is no blood at all maybe my english is bad swelling nad swolen not the same ? so its swelling i think. there is no open wound and blood (never been)


                                          • Bam
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                                              That’s good!
                                              I misinterpreted you and thought blood was streaming, but I now think you meant he has good blood-flow to his finger. And that is excellent!

                                              There will be some swelling if you break a bone or a tendon, when I broke my own ankle, my foot was partially blue and really thick for many weeks, like 8-10 weeks. Swelling does make healing slower, but some swelling is inevitable.

                                              The best thing would be for him to have a bandage on, but if that makes him really stressed out and unhappy, then you can’t. You have to weigh the good things against the bad. If he accepts a bandage, he should have one, but it seemed like he really hated it. 


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                                                Thanks for the explanation bam, that makes sense. I thought they pretty much always tear all the way through.

                                                Novi: I agree with bam, if he hates the bandage, it might do more harm than good as long as he keeps messing with it. If you do decide to put it back on, make sure it’s not too tight, and check it often to make sure the swelling isn’t causing it to become too tight.


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                                                  new update –

                                                  guys first thanks to all of you! thanks to you bam i did not got to the vet to cut down his finger like they wanted. for now the swelling seems beter (less) and he starting to back to him self more and more! he really happy and binky all the time, yeah seems you right it will be a scar with his fingers spread but he dont mind it, and he not in any pain (: gave him alot of treats the last couple of days

                                                  so i just wanted to say thanks bam! you saved Novi finger (: 


                                                • Bam
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                                                    What a lovely update I’m so happy to hear it! Lots and lots of continued healing-vibes for (((((Novi)))))


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                                                      Hazel, here’s more explanation from my mother, the physiotherapist: If a small tendon breaks all the way through, there’s often still no need for surgery because other muscles will soon take over the job of the muscle the tendon of which has ruptured. Practices can vary between countries/areas of course. Smallish tendons f ex in the shoulder are not sewn together here. The actions taken depends on the tendon in question and on the condition of the patient, but physiotherapy is the recommended thing, whether the tendon is completely torn or just partially (if partially ruptured, the remaining bit will grow thicker and stronger with exercise that creates a good blood-flow). A big tendon, typically the human achilles tendon, will need to be sewn together though.


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                                                        new update –
                                                        he better then ever! never saw him more happy from the last two days never stop binky around !
                                                        seems like there is not finger goat scar completly healed! (:


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                                                          Great news!!! Thank you for the update!!!

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