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    • bunnyjames
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        So here’s Zoe new litter She had six, 3 of them are pink and 3 are black.(makes me think daddy must be a dark color, right?) they are super chunky I was gonna take all of them out individually to take a pic of them but fur kept on getting all over the place.(I feel I have some in my throat, lol) anyways Zoe is doing fine, eating more than usual but still acting a bit rough around Chomper, im thinking its because he tries to get into the nest.  Other then that she’s perfectly fine with me getting the buns or Luna but that about it. My boyfriend tried sticking his hand in there last nigh and yeah she didnt like that at all and thought she would let him know her dislike to his actions by biting him 


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          Even of you fill the hole in your yard I would not allow Zoe outside until she has been spayed. If there have been rabbits around your neighborhood in the past, there may still be some lose ones around.


        • mocha200
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            why can’t you keep your bunny’s in the house?


          • Otti
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              Yes! My wish has been granted! they are awesomely chunky. However unfortunate the situation, at least there’s bunny cuteness. Definitely keep Zoe inside at all times from now on until spayed. She seems like she’s been pretty crafty so far. Don’t want to take any chances. Also, separate her completely from the bunnies as soon as they hit 2 months (or maybe someone else has a more exact guideline, but just better sooner than later, and better safe than sorry).


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                why can’t you keep your bunny’s in the house?

                I try but they get really anxious to go outside they get into destructive mode when I wont unblock the doggy door so that they can go outside. I guess that’s kinda my fault for letting them go outside, but I personaly feel they get bored being cooped up inside the house ALLL day. They are free range buns inside the house but I guess they still like the fresh air a bit more.At night they come inside though, chomper sleeps in my room in this rocking chair that I have nest to my bed and Zoe sleeps inside my daughters room in her closet in a doggy bed. Im thinking of just limiting their access to the back yard to the top part only and closing off the bottom part. I dont know I have to figure something out. Oh yeah does anybody know EXACTLY when i should separate Zoe from her babies??


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                  You MUST keep her inside. If she goes into destructive mode and starts chewing and digging, you havent bunnyproofed those areas enough. must must must keep her in, especially if there is a hole in the fence! It just isn’t optional.

                  And the father doesn’t necessarily have to be a black bunny. Bunnies have odd genes.. you can get totally different colors out of each litter

                  6-8 weeks is when they should be separated. at 3 months males can mature…


                • mrmac
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                    Hehe little babes! They are cuties!


                  • allegrabunny
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                      very cute, but I think you have enough grandbuns now. lol, hope the mum and babes continue to do well.


                    • Michelle&Lolli
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                        Oh my!  They are chunky!  lol   Very cute.

                        Is it possible to put up a pen somewhere for when she acts out?  I have two of them.  Mine were free when I was home but at night and when I was gone, they were in the pen cause they couldn’t be trusted.  They also got put back in the pen when they were acting up and not listening.  Lolli is fine on her own cause she followed Eddie.  Whatever he did, she did.  It was aggravating.  But anyways….perhaps if you have room, you could set it up when Zoe’s acting out cause she can’t go outside.  It folds up and can be stored. 

                        Also, it’s kind of funny.  My aunt’s blue heeler just had puppies and she will NOT let the daddy get near them.  So it must be an instinctive protective thing for female animals.  I know that some male animals will kill the babies even if they are the father. 

                         

                        This is the pen I’m talking about:


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                          i’ve heard of wolves doing this, the father of animals has been known to kill its own young and possibly eat them.. its a guy thing (the mother is the nurturer) lol. i have a similar pen to that and prefer it to my actual x-pen. I understand the whole bunny inside, bunny outside thing, mine prefer it outside aswell.


                        • Monkeybun
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                            I know they may prefer it, but its safer indoors.


                          • ScooterandAnnette
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                              Pets are like children, you can’t always let them have what they want because sometimes what they want isn’t good for them.

                              My aunt’s cat liked to be outside a lot too. Until he got hit by a car. Not to be fatalistic or anything but when they’re outside almost anything can happen unless your yard is completely sealed in a bubble. Holes in fences where they can get out, predators, you name it. We let ours out sometimes, either on a leash or confined in an Xpen, and always with someone right there watching them.
                              – Annette


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                                I got a pen like that, actually I got the idea from here I saw someone posted up and thought it was great. I Zoe and Chomper would jump out from the top Chomper Showed Zoe this was possible So I got this blue top cover you can put on top and Chomper ended up hurting himself by getting his little front paw stuck between the cover and edge of the pen, I found him hanging and scared me half to death. Oh ive been keeping them inside since zoe had the babes and all the frames from every door are chewed , the edged of the steps from the stairway are chewed, Zoe keeps on tipping over ALL 3 litter boxes and yesterday got on top of my bed and decided to scratch and bite my pillow open. There was cotton all over the place. And I caught chomper chewing the leg of the couch and trying to dig through the cushions. This is their way of letting me know they are unhappy that I have blocked the doggy door they use to go outside. But I have another plan, I was thinnking of building like a permanent pen, with like chicken wire and wood outside but do it into a 2 story thing where I can build a lil staircase for them and put lil hiddey places, I gues like a hutch. But just so they can be outside during the day so that they can play. My boyfriend works in construction so he said he would build it for me so that the bunnies can have some where safe to play outside. What do you guys think, good idea or bad????? Oh here are some pics of all the 6 babes. Theres  2 brown ones

                                 

                                 


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                                  I think a safe enclosure for outside would be a great idea for you. My dad has offered to make me an outdoor safe run too but I told him no because of the raccoons. I just would never be able to feel good about them being outside because of the wildlife in the hills here.  I would probably jump off the golden gate bridge if I lost a bunny to those idiot raccoons.

                                  Look at those little tails! So cute! Sounds like your bunnies are full of mischief!


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                                    Eeeeee! Little baby bunny toes! hehehe that last pic is adorable with the little white one sprawled on top of the pile.

                                    Building an outdoor enclose for them wouldn’t be a bad idea Make sure to make it so they can’t dig out though. Might have to clear away some dirt and put wire underneath as well, then put dirt back on top of that wire.So burying it in the earth. Then no predators can dig in either.


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                                      Make sure to make it so they can’t dig out though. Might have to clear away some dirt and put wire underneath as well, then put dirt back on top of that wire.So burying it in the earth. Then no predators can dig in either.

                                      Thats EXACTLY what my boyfriend was saying!! He was thinking of doing a sort of underground foundation and then put the dirt back on top. only the sides would have that chicken wire and the top would be an actual roof. he started making the blueprints already!!! =) really happy about it. And his doing a door big enough to so that I can easily go in there. oh and lintini i think I wouldnt let them out if there were racoons here too, but we dont have those around here, i just have to worry about cats but my dog tends to keep those out, its been years since a cat stepped into my yard, lol. And yes my buns are just a couple of trouble makers!! I heard its because i’ve given them a bit too much liberty =I


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                                        Chicken wire is not strong at all. Raccons and rabbits can chew through it in a jiffy. If you are going to get busy and make an area dig-proof, you might go all out in terms of security and have solid walls and a top.

                                        My friend is currently building this outside play area:

                                         

                                        it still needs the in-ground anti-dig mesh.

                                         


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                                          Yea I wish we didn’t have raccoons here

                                          That looks like it will be really secure Petzy! Something like that I could trust!


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                                            I’m glad all the babes seem healthy. They are so cute and itty bitty. I have a very strong urge to kiss their little heads!


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                                              Moz, I was thinking of your Zoe this morning when I found fresh rabbit prints in the snow again next to my rabbits’ summertime outdoor playpen. I think rabbits will be just as attracted to rabbits as predators are. So defintely do not allow Zoe out till after her spay even if your neighbor no longer has bunnies.


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                                                Aww they are so terribly cute! I love the ones with the spots…so adorable!


                                              • bunnyjames
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                                                  Moz, I was thinking of your Zoe this morning when I found fresh rabbit prints in the snow again next to my rabbits’ summertime outdoor playpen. I think rabbits will be just as attracted to rabbits as predators are. So defintely do not allow Zoe out till after her spay even if your neighbor no longer has bunnies.

                                                  Yeah im really starting to believe Zoe might have gotten pregnant from an unknown bunny, and Petzy im trying really hard to keep them both inside, Im really am, but they’ve decided since I wont let them out that they will destroy every piece of furniture i have. Not kool!! today I found Zoe in the dirty laundry hamper and she had bit a hole on a couple of blouses. How can I get them to RELAX? It seems as though I feed them coffee beans or something cuz they are always hyper and so destructive!plus im kinda worried, today early in the morning I noticed that the cardboard box the babes are in was getting wet from the bottom, its saturated in urine, the problem was that when Zoe had these babes I wasnt prepared and when she built that nest i gave her limited hay to build the nest since i thought she was having a false pregnancy so not enough hay went into the box so the babies have managed to put all the hay aside and they are laying on just the cardborad box so the urine has soaked through. So I decided to take them out and just put more hay in so that they would be laying down on the hay and that would help soak up some of the urine when they pee. Well i dont think Zoe liked it so much cuz she hasnt gone in at all. i put them orchard grass cuz I was out of timothy and only had orchard and alfalfa. Could that have bothered her? she build her nest with timothy so i dont know if the scent of the orchard is throwing her off. I had no choice though the babes were laying down on wet cardboard.


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                                                    Oh here’s a pic I took of them today in the morning when I took them out so I could put some more hay in the nest box.

                                                     


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                                                      They are so cute! hehe little leg wrinkles!


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                                                        Posted By Moz on 11/19/2010 04:40 PM
                                                        Yeah im really starting to believe Zoe might have gotten pregnant from an unknown bunny, and Petzy im trying really hard to keep them both inside, Im really am, but they’ve decided since I wont let them out that they will destroy every piece of furniture i have. It seems as though I feed them coffee beans

                                                         

                                                        coffee beans! Oh dear! I think some bunny-proofing is in order. Can you pick up some NIC grids and modify where they can and can’t go? I had a rabbit once who seriously ate a hole into my wall so I know they can go all out on your interiors. ~ you could actually make a nursing pen so Zoe has got to stay with the kits even when you clean up.

                                                        Maybe you can name the brown bunny kit Coffebean. That would be so cute.  

                                                         


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                                                          Posted By Moz on 11/19/2010 04:40 PM
                                                          So I decided to take them out and just put more hay in so that they would be laying down on the hay and that would help soak up some of the urine when they pee. Well i dont think Zoe liked it so much cuz she hasnt gone in at all. i put them orchard grass cuz I was out of timothy and only had orchard and alfalfa. Could that have bothered her? she build her nest with timothy so i dont know if the scent of the orchard is throwing her off.

                                                           

                                                          This is from an article from the House Rabbit Society.

                                                          “Remember the bunny mom only feeds her young usually once in the middle of the night. Don’t assume she is not caring for them if you don’t see her nurse them. Check their tummies to see if they are round and the babies are warm in the morning–this means she is caring for them.”

                                                           


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                                                            Posted By Petzy on 11/19/2010 05:44 PM

                                                            Maybe you can name the brown bunny kit Coffebean. That would be so cute.  

                                                            LOL, that is cute they are the color of coffee beans too, lol!!! what are NIC grids?? are they sturdier then the play pens?? cuz Chomper and Zoe always find a way to get out they hate being restricted to a small area. I once locked them in the spare room I have and they ended up chewing up all the wood molding that is at the bottom of the wall. Zoe and Chomper do just fine inside the house when they get to have their playtime outside. By the time I get home they are already inside each in their own “own” room. Chomper sleeps with me in my room and Zoe sleeps in Luna’s room in her closet, I know weird but she likes it in there I dont know why.  Im getting greally anxious and frustrated with them but I think the feeling is mutual, cuz both see me and give me foot flicks, i feel thats a bunny’s way to “flip” you off. Chomper refuses to take any treats from my hand, really funny though cuz he’ll push them off my hand and then eat’s them off the floor. I just cant wait till my boyfriend build that hutch outside or Zoe gets spayed which ever comes sooner I’ll be one happy camper.


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                                                              i’ll check them in the morning its just she usually goes into feed them when I go downstairs in the morning, while I make breakfast she goes in to feed the babes and them comes into the kitchen to get her breakfast.(she gets her veggies in the morning). Today she didnt do that and I dont know if its cuz i changed her nest around. But ill check tomorrow to see if they are warm and tummies are full.


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                                                                Here Moz, here is advice about rabbit proofing.

                                                                https://binkybunny.com/BUNNYINFO/BunnyProofingYourHome/tabid/61/Default.aspx

                                                                It includes what nic grids are. You can attach them together with cable ties.

                                                                I can’t block off this part my bunny likes to go into so I just dab a stinky perfume on the carpet and it makes her stay away.

                                                                Be firm with the bunnies


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                                                                  NIC grids are a must in every bunny household because they serve you in many ways: if you want to bunny-proof your house you can build blockades around objects they are not supposed to touch. You can also make gates out of grids, and build condos or even pens.

                                                                  (this image is from the Binkybunny bunny-proofing section)

                                                                   


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                                                                    You can buy them at home stores, or Staples, but not in petstores, oddly enough. I am not sure which stores exactly carry them in the States but other members will know.


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                                                                      Walmart, Target, IKEA (not sure), Fred Meyer.. it would be in the household/organization section I hope it works out for you Moz.


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                                                                        oh wow those look pretty cool. can you make them higher though? Zoe and Chomper can definately jump over the sample you put up Petzy. i tried rubbing lemon on the legs of furniture and on the walls and apparently they LOVE the sour taste. Ill go check target tomorrow it wont hurt to try it out. Thanks Petzy and Brrittany!


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                                                                          totally. I have to go three grids high for my rabbits also


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                                                                            You can make them higher. (This was my living room by the way… lol.) We used to have the Playstation in the living room and it made more sense for us to be able to fold out a gate so the boys could do their thing uninterrupted, but the bunnies could have the other half of the living room and then the hallway and their room to play in.

                                                                            I think it’s so important that you hold your ground and do not let her out until after she has been spayed and has time to heal. Two litters, (nursing three!) in such a short time is unbelievably stressful on a rabbit. She deserves to be spayed and allowed to chill out with her buddy Chomper and not have to worry about babies. I think she’ll be a fantastic house rabbit once she is spayed and those hormones die down. Until then, you’ll just have to deal with it, even if this means confining her. She is going to be angry but there’s really not much else you can do. We sometimes have to make decisions that our “kids” don’t like, but we do it for their health and safety.

                                                                            Keep in mind, as regards to the rule on Binkybunny about breeding: This is your first “real” accidental litter. The previous babies were fosters. And she was pregnant when she came to you (supposedly… altho looking back, is there any chance this same mystery bunny got her pregnant then too?)

                                                                            So, if she gets pregnant another time, this will be considered intentional breeding and you will not be permitted to post about it on the site. We have had issues in the past where members had back to back to back “accidental litters” and they always had a good excuse to explain how the bunnies escaped, but really, when you have an unaltered rabbit, nothing is accidental.

                                                                             

                                                                            Edited to add: This entire situation is also a good lesson for those who believe they do not have to spay a single bunny because there is no chance of pregnancy. Obviously, this is not the case.


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                                                                              About the grids: they come in a larger gauge that you want to avoid, make sure you get the ones with the 1.5″ square openings. ‘NIC’ stands for Neat Idea Cubes. There are other brands, Closetmaid, Rubbermade.. .that make the cube grids too. They are meant to make shelving.

                                                                              I am thinking you could build a fun pen for Zoe and her litter, one with NIC tunnels and shelves to stimulate them. That way they can stay indoors without getting into trouble until the kits find homes and Zoe is spayed. After that, you can use the grids for bunny-proofing.

                                                                               

                                                                               


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                                                                                Bed Bath and Beyond also sells the grids that are the 1.5 inch openings. Last time I got some they had gray, white, or black.


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                                                                                  Posted By Beka27 on 11/20/2010 03:36 AM

                                                                                  You can make them higher. (This was my living room by the way… lol.) We used to have the Playstation in the living room and it made more sense for us to be able to fold out a gate so the boys could do their thing uninterrupted, but the bunnies could have the other half of the living room and then the hallway and their room to play in.

                                                                                  I think it’s so important that you hold your ground and do not let her out until after she has been spayed and has time to heal. Two litters, (nursing three!) in such a short time is unbelievably stressful on a rabbit. She deserves to be spayed and allowed to chill out with her buddy Chomper and not have to worry about babies. I think she’ll be a fantastic house rabbit once she is spayed and those hormones die down. Until then, you’ll just have to deal with it, even if this means confining her. She is going to be angry but there’s really not much else you can do. We sometimes have to make decisions that our “kids” don’t like, but we do it for their health and safety.

                                                                                  Keep in mind, as regards to the rule on Binkybunny about breeding: This is your first “real” accidental litter. The previous babies were fosters. And she was pregnant when she came to you (supposedly… altho looking back, is there any chance this same mystery bunny got her pregnant then too?)

                                                                                  So, if she gets pregnant another time, this will be considered intentional breeding and you will not be permitted to post about it on the site. We have had issues in the past where members had back to back to back “accidental litters” and they always had a good excuse to explain how the bunnies escaped, but really, when you have an unaltered rabbit, nothing is accidental.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Edited to add: This entire situation is also a good lesson for those who believe they do not have to spay a single bunny because there is no chance of pregnancy. Obviously, this is not the case.

                                                                                  My 2 are not allowed to be spayed (enforced by my mom) and not many people around here belive in spaying.. so re-homing wouldnt do much good. If by chance mine had kits, it would completely be an accident and unavoidable. i have taken measures to keep them safe but if one got out somehow, there are many wild rabbits in our area and it wouldnt take much for one of my girls to get pregenant…
                                                                                   


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                                                                                    Posted By MirBear on 11/22/2010 03:41 PM

                                                                                    i have taken measures to keep them safe but if one got out somehow, there are many wild rabbits in our area and it wouldnt take much for one of my girls to get pregenant…
                                                                                     

                                                                                     

                                                                                    Since you are already figuring this now, if this were to happen, you couldn’t post about it on BB. That’s just the rules on here.


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                                                                                      Mir, there are feral DOMESTIC rabbits around your property or wild “cottontails”? Wild rabbits cannot impregnate domestic rabbits. The male involved in this situation would have to be a domestic rabbit that was loose.


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                                                                                        Posted By Beka27 on 11/20/2010 03:36 AM

                                                                                        “but really, when you have an unaltered rabbit, nothing is accidental.”

                                                                                         

                                                                                        I disagree… There ARE accidents, for example: Mine are not aloud to be spayed, most people around here keep bunnies for breeding or food and dont belive in spaying them.. there are alot of wild rabbits in my area, and if one of my girls were to get out and get pregnant it would be completely accidental.. I have taken extream measures to keep them contained to there cages, but they continue to test me. and hopefully they wont figure out how to get out of the garage. 
                                                                                         

                                                                                        I have spent alot of money to keep them safe untill im old enough to move out. However, if for any reason they were to get pregnant, like i said, it would be 100% accidental. For me, there is ALWAYS a chance my girls will get pregnant and it is unavoidable.. That chance is very low now,but its still there.


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                                                                                          Mirbear, we are not judging you, but we have to enforce the rule. If we widely allowed talk of rabbit litters we’d discourage those members who work hard in the field of rescue. Just do your best to keep your two bunnies locked up till their time comes to be spayed


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                                                                                            Posted By Beka27 on 11/20/2010 03:36 AM

                                                                                            when you have an unaltered rabbit, nothing is accidental.

                                                                                             

                                                                                            I have to disagree. Imagine your bunny escapes from its very sturdy cage, and mates with another rabbit in the house. Or you put your 3-month-old bunny with your “neutered” male, who has an intact testicle that you never knew about. Or you get two 8-week-old rabbits, and they are both unusually sexually mature. Or maybe you have two new adult “spayed” female bunnies, and before you can get them checked out, you discover that it was actually an unfixed mixed-gender couple…from the babies in the cage. Would that really be intentional breeding?

                                                                                            I also fail to see how it would be intentional breeding if someone – who wasn’t able to spay their bunnies, but really wanted to – had their female rabbit accidentally escape from their cage and, by chance, mate with a feral male rabbit. It wouldn’t be their fault that the cage was unlocked (or broken through), much less that there was an unneutered rabbit roaming around the yard.


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                                                                                              Ditto Petzy.

                                                                                              Mir, I don’t think Beka’s comment was directed at you. When there’s lots of pics of rabbit litters on this site, it’s good once in a while to reaffirm the stance of this site that intentional breeding is not promoted. Otherwise, unfamiliar visitors may come on the site, see baby bunny pictures and 1) start sharing their own pics or discussions of breeding
                                                                                              or 2) get rabbits and start breeding because they’re so taken by the babies. I’m sure Binky Bunny does not want to encourage that in any way.

                                                                                              You’ve been a regular here long enough to know all that I guess and are familiar with forum rules. I actually had never even thought about the risks of Hershey or Twix becoming pregnant! It’s a good thing you have and take the precautions you can. You’re doing the best you can in your situation. No judgement was being made of you.


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                                                                                                Accidents do happen.

                                                                                                 I will paste here from the rules section to clarify. These rules were made with the objective in mind to keep the forum rescue-focused.

                                                                                                D.   Discussions of Accidental Litters, Breeding, Meat Rabbits: Discussions involving intentional breeding and meat rabbits are not allowed: IF your bunny is unexpectedly pregnant, then we are more than happy to help out and/or refer you to experts that can.  Though we promote rescue, we are not an anti-breeder site.  To find out why breeding discussions are not allowed see the .

                                                                                                 

                                                                                                     Accidental Litter:  Sometimes this happens and we will do our best to help the pregnant doe and/or babies by providing advice to the  best of our knowledge.  However, posting future baby photos will be prohibited unless it is in regards to a health or behavior question.  Posting photos of the babies just  to share the cute faces will not be allowed.  The reason for this is it draws people in to our site , via the search engines, to the subject of babies and breeding. (even though it was accidental).   We are focused on the individual rabbit and do not wish to encourage this subject for several reasons.  Again, please review FAQ .

                                                                                                     Posts that imply intentional breeding are not allowed: Posts that mention pregnancy, new litters, kits, or babies may be considered as “intentional” breeding, if it is not clarified as accidental.  *NOTE: Repeat accidental litters from the same person will fall into this implied category as well.(regardless if it was truly accidental over and over) .  Again, a surprise litter that someone needs help with, and they continue to mention their kits’ progress is OKAY, but mentioning brand new kits in a way that implies new litters over and over is NOT OKAY.

                                                                                                     Repeat Litter Exceptions: Certified Rescues can post about repeat litters.  Rescues many times are subject to getting rabbits in that are already pregnant.  They are allowed to use our forum to post about it in the RESCUE SECTION and use the forum as a resource for adoption.

                                                                                                 


                                                                                              • BinkyBunny
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                                                                                                    Both Beka and Petzy are right (thank you for posting the rules about this). “Repeat accidents” falls under the rules of  intentional and unintentional breeding.  If another litter does happen, it will fall under the rule that Petzy has copied.

                                                                                                  I know the bunnies just want the freedom, and confinement options are still being worked out, but when you know there is a possibility that pregnancy could happen again then what choice do you really have? So I do hope that you are able to create a safe confinement area immediately  (and don’t let her outside until she is spayed) and bunny proof your home.  Members have offered up some good tips so far and I’m sure more problem-solving can continue;. 

                                                                                                  So let’s not argue about this anymore. The rules have been stated, and we know what that means for the future, so let’s refocus and figure out a way prevent more pregnancies. 

                                                                                                  Topic now unlocked. 


                                                                                                • Beka27
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                                                                                                    Mir, what I said was truly not a judgment on your situation. I’m very sorry you felt that way. We are all very aware of your situation and the great lengths you have gone to to keep your two bunnies in your possession and housed properly and fed well. I personally think you are doing a great job within the parameters you are allowed. I recognize that at this point, this is the best you can do. If you are taking them outside and there are *domestic* rabbits loose around your property or neighboring properties, you have to make sure they are not left out unsupervised and are contained somehow.


                                                                                                  • KatnipCrzy
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                                                                                                      Depending on where you live wild rabbits are can NOT breed with domestic rabbits.  I live in the Midwest and we have Eastern Cottontails which CAN NOT breed a domestic rabbit-  they are a different species.  Our domestic rabbits I believe are raised from European stock.

                                                                                                      I understand your point Mirbear- BUT if you have an unspayed bunny (and especially if you have a male) your rabbits should have a pen or cage built like Fort Knox- impossible to get out of with solid floor, walls and top and even a door that locks.  But that is my opinion- and I am not trying to stir up trouble or an argument.  I just work at a vet clinic and I see “oops” puppy litters all the time- and it is the owners fault for not allowing it to happen- you can’t blame the dog.  And it really saddens me to see puppies having a litter of puppies.


                                                                                                    • MirBear
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                                                                                                        KatnipCrzy, i have 2 girls. there are ‘domestic’ rabbits lose around here. ( kinda funny to see a wild lionhead or angora ) i assume its because we live by the humane socioty and drop offs dont always make it inside..
                                                                                                        My mom forbid me to get them spayed she says its a waste of money and wont let me waste that mucch money for the sake of rabbits.
                                                                                                        my girl’s pens are extreamy secure, however they do manage to get out. i do everything possible to keep them inside. but it doesnt help that i dont have alot of money to actually build anything. their pens are on cement floor, the doors are ALWAYS locked. and i have sheets over the top but yes, they do manage to get out.


                                                                                                      • Beka27
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                                                                                                          Have you ever talked to your mom about the possibility of one of them getting pregnant? I am wondering what she would do. Would she let you keep the babies until they were of age to be weaned and placed in homes or would you have to surrender mother and babies to the humane society? It is very expensive to raise several babies for 8+ weeks.


                                                                                                        • MirBear
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                                                                                                            she said that it is not a topic for discussion. I’d keep the babies for the 2 months, we buy bulk pellets so food isnt a problem, im now buying hay from the farm i work at, and the litter i buy is VERY reasonable.


                                                                                                          • Monkeybun
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                                                                                                              If there are feral domestic rabbits around your place, do NOT under any circumstances let your girls outside. And I hate to say it, but your set up is not at all secure if your girls can get out of it.


                                                                                                            • LittlePuffyTail
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                                                                                                                This is a bit off topic, but I would be worried about wild rabbits (non-domestic) buns around if I let my bunnies outside. Seeing how my bunnies want to tear each other up when I put them together, I’m wondering if a wild rabbit would attack a domestic pet in it’s yard.


                                                                                                              • Beka27
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                                                                                                                  Good point LPT. I’ve honestly never thought about fighitng, although I have thought about any parasites the wild bun could be carrying. I guess I thought that each bun would be too scared of the other to really get close enough, but who knows?


                                                                                                                • RabbitPam
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                                                                                                                    I’m just going to add two cents here: if, for whatever reason, a member has an accidental litter and is not allowed to post under the rules clearly stated by BB (see Petzy’s reprint on the previous page) that does not mean that you cannot access the site still.

                                                                                                                    While discussion of the new litter is not allowed, and a new post isn’t either, you may certainly search through the existing posts from other members for advice on what to do in similar circumstances. Oops litters have been addressed in the past and replied to at length. You cannot unearth an old post and add to it in fresh discussion, but some are several pages long and cover just about every contingency you may encounter. So basically, you can get the advice you need on what to do and how to care for babies and a new mother doe by just reading. That way, you will receive help, and hopefully feel guided in a direction that is safe for the bunnies.

                                                                                                                    And of course, take your doe to the vet immediately, before and after giving birth, for some direct, hands on care that is worth 10x advice on an internet, sight unseen long distance. Any issues are best treated individually, and a vet can also help you plan for what to do with the litter when weaned, connect you with local rescues, or steer you to possible rehoming help.

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