Holland Lop Size

[x3lady]

So, I am going to look at a Holland Lop and a Mini Lop this weekend. I’ve read up on them, and I know that the Mini Lop will be the bigger of the two. I am leaning towards the Holland Lop, just because there is something about him. But, who knows, I could come home with a Mini Lop. I am curious though as to what a 3-4lb rabbit looks like. If anyone on here has a Holland Lop, could you post pictures so I can gage how big they are and get an idea of what size cage would be a good fit? I currently have a larger rabbit cage, but I thought eventually I’d like to make something with NIC cubes. Thanks!

[Monkeybun]

My Moose isn’t a holland lop, but he is 4lbs.

He’s in the bottom right corner of his cage. His cage is a NIC condo, 2 grids by 3 grids.

[corpathina]

sorry for the poor quality, but i just took it with my phone (and i still have a razr, not a fancy shmancy iphone.. lol). but these are MJ’s digs and he’s 4ish lbs and is part holland lop. not sure if you can tell but the condo is 2 nic grids deep. the red thing is a towel i’ve fastened over the top part to make a cozy little den area for him. the wood thing next to it is a hutch my bf built for him. you realize how big the whole thing is when you think that the purple thing at the bottom is the standard starter cage from the pet store that i now use as his litter box. haha

but to me, cage size depends on how much time they’ll spend in it. i originally thought MJ would be spending a lot of time in his condo. turns out he’s a well-behaved boy and i don’t have to lock him up every time i leave. still, i lock him up at night (when he’s more mischevious) and so it’s good that it’s large enough that he can still jump around and play a bit.

good luck making your cage! there are so many people that have done some super-creative and cool habitats. don’t forget to check the binkybunny “cool habitat” section for great ideas!

 EDIT: sorry, just re-read your post. wanted to add that MJ fits comfortably on the little one-square perch that’s next to his bowl (the green thing in the middle near the left side). he sepnd a lot of time there napping and eating. it’s the size of one NIC grid. that means if you come home with the holland you’d want at least 4 times that amount of square feet (as suggested by the HRS i think, but i think buns need way more space than that. that’s a bare minimum). good luck!!

[Deleted User]

In front, grey and white one = mini lop, 6.5 lbs

behind him, brown and white one = holland lop 3.5 lbs

they need the same cage size in my opnion, the smaller rabbits are more active and need the space for that reason.

[skibunny8503]

Here are mine:

(from left the right) Sandy (mini lop @ 7lbs), Gracie (mini lop @ approx. 4.5-5lbs) and Archie (holland lop @ approx 3-3.5lb)

Since Sandy’s the biggest and Archie’s the smallest here’s a comparison of them next to each other.

They are all adorable, fun and have their own unique personalities. 

This is my cage but we spoil them rotten    It’s actually two seperate cages if you look closely.  Archie and Gracie are in the one and Sandy’s is in the other (that’s where it ends at is where Sandy’s sitting at.)  I like the left cage for one bunny IMO It’s not huge but there’s enough room for her to run around in.  It’s 3×4 grids.

[Deleted User]

Skibunny, I think it is time you tell the truth about your rabbit condos. It does look suspicious to me. I believe that you are the caged one in your office, see the gate around your chair? This is how your rabbits have person-proofed their condo from you.

[MimzMum]

Wow, skibunny…that habitat is impressive! If you think that’s not enough room for them, then I really feel ashamed of my teeny pens for my bunnies! 0_o
Mind if I gleep that pic so I can show the hubby how much room they REALLY need? ^_^

I’ve been told my Mimzy is a Holland Lop, but I think he’s a little on the heavy side, since his last weight was about 4.5 pounds.

 

 

 

[Monkeybun]

aww Mimzy is just too snuggleable.

[sophie*bun]

Hi x3lady,

I have a Holland Lop and she is about 3.5 lbs.
There are a lot of cage options available out there. I found the ones in the petstores smaller and more expensive so my husband and I bought her an extra large dog kennel cage from Wallmart and customized it ourselves by adding a second level for her.
We bought some safe wood from Home Depot and cut out a hole for a ramp and made a ramp to the second floor. We also put blankets for her so it’s softer and marble blocks to cool off on in the summer time. She seemed to love it from day one.

Good luck in your bunny search! They are so cute…

 

 

First Level

 

Second Level

 

Sophie in front of her cage (you can see it’s size in comparison to the couch).

 

[skibunny8503]

Posted By Petzy on 03/11/2010 05:30 PM
Skibunny, I think it is time you tell the truth about your rabbit condos. It does look suspicious to me. I believe that you are the caged one in your office, see the gate around your chair? This is how your rabbits have person-proofed their condo from you.

LOL Hmm so that’s what all that noise was at night, they were human proofing

 

Wow, skibunny…that habitat is impressive! If you think that’s not enough room for them, then I really feel ashamed of my teeny pens for my bunnies! 0_o
Mind if I gleep that pic so I can show the hubby how much room they REALLY need? ^_^

Thanks!  We put stock into zip ties   Just wait until we get a bigger house the whole basement will be dedicated to them probably…that or a big room upstairs

[MimzMum]

I was finding quite a few piccies I’d forgotten I’d taken…a lot of them he’s in this superman pose…last night he had his feets straight out behind him, but the minute I fired up the camera…the little bugger scuttled under his shelf away from me!
Looking at these I was thinking of how much I want a Flemmie someday, and then realized how thankful I am that Mimzy fits nicely into the crook of my arm! ^_^ I think one of those giant bunnies would squoosh me!
Loppies = <3

[sophie*bun]

skibunny8503,

You’re such a good mom, those guys are 3 happy and lucky bunnies! Want to adopt me? I’ll just need a corner please. LOL

[skibunny8503]

Posted By sophie*bun on 03/11/2010 06:37 PM
skibunny8503,

You’re such a good mom, those guys are 3 happy and lucky bunnies! Want to adopt me? I’ll just need a corner please. LOL

[MimzMum]

lolz…Sophie, I have to say, how does your bun do with all those fancy carpets? And how cute to see that I’m not the only one who puts a cover on top of my bunnies’ pen and tops it with a plushie garnish! ^_^
What is the color of your loppy, btw? Mimzy is what they call sooty fawn, but your bun looks lighter and more grey?

[sophie*bun]

 LOL she loves that tiger, and no you are not alone with the plushies

She seems to like carpet, she doesn’t ever chew it, just licks and digs at it a lot.

Sophie seems to really dislike flooring, because she can’t get a proper grip and she kind of scares herself everytime she burns out of control…

I believe she is Sable Grey and some refered to her as Siamese Grey.

By the way, Mimzy is so cute!

[MimzMum]

Thanks! Your bun is gorgeous…I love grey-ish bunnies. I’ve also had a few Siamese cats and their coloring is always so neat…so imagine my surprise to find that bunnies can have these colors too…so many varieties!
And yes, believe me, with the amount of plushies I have, (pun impending), I couldn’t be alone if I tried…lolz. ^_^ I think a lot of users here have a collection…the “Pix because I’m just silly” thread is overflowing with them.

x3lady, did you happen to have a pic of the Holland you are thinking about adopting? We’d love to see!

[Monkeybun]

Speaking of which MM.. I’m an addict now. Ordered 3 more today… >.>

[jerseygirl]

*shakes head* ^
MB’s hubby agrees MB can order a sockbunny thinking it will stop her or distract her from wanting and asking for another rabbit.
10 sock bunnies later, MB’s hubby realises his error. He suggests they get another rabbit (a grey lop in fact) in the hopes it will distract her from
ordering more sock bunnies…

hehe! So is that the plan MB?

[Monkeybun]

So far it seems to be working lol.

Nah, he’s fine with the sockbunnies, I don’t spend money on anything else really, unless its something we really need, so he’s fine with my sock bunny addiction.

Although a gray lop is definitely in our future lol. Someday.. after M&M are bonded

[sophie*bun]

Thank you MimzMum.

 haha glad I’m not alone.

[Beka27]

Like Petzy said, they’ll need the same amount of room. Regardless of bunny size, the smallest size cage you’ll want is 2×4 feet of horizontal space. Like most things, the bigger the better. Most petstore cages don’t fit these requirements, so it’s good you’re already planning on making a larger enclosure. Smaller buns (dwarfs) usually are more active than larger buns (giants). Medium size buns don’t fit many stereotypes tho… When you get the bun home, you’ll figure out how much space you want to use, based on the bun and based on how much out of cage exercise time he gets daily. Also, if you are planning on getting a second bun eventually, you may want to go larger right off the bat or at least plan for a larger space further on down the line.

[Elrohwen]

I’m kind of late to this thread, but I lurve holland lops so I had to post a picture of mine. Here’s Otto. He’s 4.3lbs. The breed standard only goes up to 4lbs, but it’s not uncommon to find one bigger like Otto and Mimzy. Basically, there is a dwarfing gene – two copies of the gene makes the animal unviable, one copy is the correct form and gives you a bun in the correct weight range, and zero copies of the gene gives a “false dwarf” which is typically 4-5lbs. So you can have a 5lb holland that would be almost as big as a mini-lop.

Mimzmum, I totally think your MImzy is a holland – most especially because his color is the most common holland lop color but isn’t realy found in mini lops.

Anyway, pictures!

And here is his cage. The blue pet store cage is 4’x2′. I’m actually a big fan of that cage, because it keeps all of the hay and food contained to an easy to clean area. However, I don’t feel that it’s big enough, even for my small bun, hence the pen. The pen is also super versatile – I can pack it up and take it to a friend’s house if we’re going on vacation and they’re bunny sitting. I’ve taken Otto to my parents’ house and mother-in-law’s house and just set up the pen for him. I love having the pen.

[sophie*bun]

Elrohwen,

I gotta say Otto is adorable!

[KatnipCrzy]

There can be a variance in rabbit breed size depending on the area- when I got Griff I was surprised at how big the 4H Mini Lops were- they made mine look like Hollands- but I had a Holland- and knew how tiny they were.  I asked Griff’s breeder about it, even though she does not have Mini’s- and she mentioned that a judge commented on the size of the Mini Lops also- they were above typical breed size- but in NE MI maybe that is the typical breeding pool and result?

Penny my Holland- was so tiny and cute- but she was a fireball!  She would dig on my lap (protected by a blanket) and push the blanket around to her liking with her front paws.  She would also “thump” on my lap if she felt the need to thump- none of my other rabbits have ever thumped on my lap.

[x3lady]

Thanks everyone for all the cage suggestions and for the pictures! I really liked sophie*bun’s and Elrohwen’s cages. I have an extra dog crate that I could use. It is for a large breed dog, so I think it would work well for the bunny. However, I wonder if that would be too messy while we work on litter training… I guess I could try that first though since it would be easier than having to get an entirely new cage. I also have an x-pen I could use, but I would want to put one of the rabbit cages like Elrohwen has inside of it. I looked on Craigslist, and I found one that is cheap and could probably work. So many decisions to make for this bunny! I am *probably* going to visit the bunnies tomorrow, and I might be coming home with one. If I do, I will get everything set up and take pictures for you guys! Thank you so much for the help and all the advice! I really appreciate it. I am a huge animal person, but I’ve never had a house bunny!

[x3lady]

Oh, and I guess I should mention if I get the Mini Lop, he comes with a 3 ft x 3 ft NIC cage set-up. I haven’t seen it personally, but I think that would be big enough for him, right?

[sophie*bun]

I’m so happy for you. Looking for a new bunny is an exciting thing… 

I would love to get another one, but Sophie’s personality probably wouldn’t allow it. She’s got 50% princess character (like she’ll make you get out of her way even if you are not in her way) and 50% cuddles, kisses, nudges and binkies. (LOL just wait until you see a binky, it’s so funny). Once, she had an encounter with my mom’s chinchillas and she licked and then humped one of them

Anyways, good luck in your search and I can’t wait to see your pictures!!

[MimzMum]

Two of my three cages are the standard Superpet brand (they’re about -eyeballing it- 4 ft long by almost 2 ft wide by almost 3 ft high) and I think they are nice for a place for bunny to sleep, but my rabbits can’t stay in their pens all the time because they’d get no exercise. Currently I have to take them out of their pens separately and place them one at a time in a child’s exercise yard in my kitchen for their “Whee!” time.
However, I plan on eventually getting some NIC grids of my own and finding a way to attach them in a large space around the Superpet pens to give each bunny their own spaz space they can freely enter and exit without my help until I have them bonded…then we’ll probably wind up getting rid of the Superpet pens altogether and making one big condo for the three of them.
But yeah, 3×3 is probably okay for a sleeping space…but not to stay int here all the time. I’m just guessing dimensions though, perhaps other members who have NIC pens could advise you better.
Looking forward to the piccies! *squee* So exciting!

KatnipCrazy wrote:
She would dig on my lap (protected by a blanket) and push the blanket around to her liking with her front paws.

lolz…Mimzy does this too. We call it his “smooth move”…because it looks like he’s flattening out the rumples he’s just made in the bedding. I didn’t think any other bunnies did this.

[wiseleyd]

This is Mellow. He weighs 5 lbs. and “smooths” his blanket and digs on me!!

[MimzMum]

Mellow is so precious, I just want to scoop him up in a huge snuggle! ^_^
That’s it, I’m going back to school!

[Elrohwen]

I think attaching the large dog crate to an xpen would be a fantastic cage set up! Then you could use the two cages you already have to make one big cage, rather than buying a petstore cage. You could also easily attach some plastic guards around the dog crate to keep the hay and such inside (I find bunnies like to make a mess of hay and the more you can keep it contained to one area the less it ends up all over your house).

I personally didn’t have any litter training issues, but if you do, having the crate will allow you to close your bun into a smaller space and help him/her learn to use the litter box. Once the litter box is mastered, you can open the crate into the pen at all times. I initially planned to keep my bun locked in the smaller cage while he was being litter trained and only let him into the pen for exercise, but since he got the hang of the litter box immediately, I just left the cage open to the pen at all times. Now he has the whole area and I open it up during the day so he can come out if he wants (though he honestly spends almost all day sleeping in his maze haven, only coming out in the evening).

Good luck getting your new bunny! I don’t think you can go wrong with either a holland or a mini lop – I personally think lops in general have great personalities.

[wiseleyd]

 He’d let you!! He snuggles with a lot of people. He runs up to students as they enter the classroom and flattens himself for petting. When his favorite students come in, (i.e. the most attentive), he runs in circles and binkies. The drawback to this arrangement is that sometimes my students return to their home countries and he misses them. His “paparrazi”  just moved back to Japan and Mellow misses him something fierce. He still has plenty of favorites, though.

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