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User is Offline DallasDelight
Waco, Texas
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1/19/2009 8:50 AM

Please respond asap!!

I heard this weird squeak sound and noticed Duncan made it, he keeps making gagging type of motions, he looks like he feels like crap, he's not eating and he is trying to hide

my dad is leaving for a meeting in an hour and a half to be 5 hours away. we won't have a car, meaning no way to the vets if something happens.

what can I do? is he choking or what??


Mom of Demi and Sprout

***R.I.P Dallas & Duncan - I will always love and miss you boys..***

User is Offline wendyzski
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1/19/2009 8:51 AM

Vet NOW!


User is Offline Sarita
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1/19/2009 8:56 AM
Yes, based on what you are saying it sounds urgent and if he's not eating and gagging, it doesn't' sound good. Yes to Vet NOW.

User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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1/19/2009 9:43 AM
Vet now!! {{VIBES}}
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User is Offline Beka27
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1/19/2009 9:54 AM
is there a friend or family member who lives nearby who could pick you up and take you to the vet? the vets will be closing very soon. he needs to be seen today!
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User is Offline xParadise
Edmonton, Alberta
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1/19/2009 10:42 AM
Oh no! I hope Duncan is alright. Like everyone else said, he really should see a vet. Keep us posted!

User is Offline bunnytowne
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1/19/2009 11:02 AM

OH noo what timing.  I really hope you can get him to the vet ASAP. 

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User is Offline DallasDelight
Waco, Texas
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1/19/2009 2:18 PM

oh my gosh, WHAT a day!! I'll start out by saying that Duncan is alright now! Now for what all happened(I'll warn you now, this will be long!).

After I got those first few replies, I called our vet. I was put on hold real quick and then told that our normal doctor was out of state and Dr. Taylor, who was in, didn't do rabbits. She gave me the number to a clinic that was 30+ miles away(but the next closest). I called them immediately, and they let me know that Dr Allen doesn't see rabbits. They direct me to Dr Taylor, saying he saw rabbits. I told them they told me that he didn't, and asked if there were any other vets around..they said no. I get off the phone with them and am trying not to start crying because now I'm stuck with NO vet and NO medical care for poor Duncan. I told my mom and we looked things up online. I came across how to give a bunny the heimlich maneuver. I was terrified to try it because of how fragile they are, but we really didn't have any other options and he was only getting worse(heavier gags, trying to throw up and grinding his teeth). My mom is a retired labor and delivery nurse, and she has done the same maneuver that you do for rabbits on infants many many times(including me, I almost choked to death on a barbie shoe when I was an infant!). I told her about it and she was willing to do it..not to say she wasn't nervous..she was so scared she'd hurt him herself. We wrapped him up snug and secure in a bunritto and she did it. The first time there was no sound, the next times though you could hear SOMEthing being tossed out. We let him go back in his cage and at first he was even worse, he couldn't swallow normally without severe pain, he had his eyes squinted so hard that they were nearly closed and he was gagging without a break.
I was panicking and called the local animal shelter to see if they had ANYBODY who could help. Well apparently there was another vet 30+ miles away!!!! I called and they told me to bring him in right away...I could have cried I was so happy! except shame on the other vet, I can't believe they didn't tell me about them!!!

When I put Duncan in the carrier, he stopped gagging and grinding his teeth. He was still a little squinty-eyed, but a lot better.
The vet was a lady named Mary and she was AWESOME!! I'd never met her before so I was worried at first, but she was really great with Duncan. She told me flat out that she did not know a lot about exotics and she'd do what she could, but for anything serious, she referred me to the A to Z Vet clinic in Midland(3 1/2 hours away from us, unfortunately). She used a tool that I don't know the name of and looked down Duncan's throat, or rather as far back as she could with that(it wasn't an endoscope) and didn't see anything. Said his teeth and gums looked good. His temperature was normal, too. He hadn't gagged since he was put in his carrier either. She was going to give him an anti-inflammatory shot but then she called the A to Z veterinary clinic's vet to get a consult(I am super impressed. I didn't ask her to do that and I didn't expect her to do it on her own) and the vet there said to give him an injection of Medicam(a painkiller) and send us home with 3 days worth(1 dose a day) of medicam to give him orally. Mary said because he wasn't eating/drinking/pottying, she'd just give us enough for tomorrow's dose, but if he was still not eating/drinking/pottying, to take him to the A to Z clinic instead of waiting 3 days for painkillers to fix him. She did say that if he was in pain the day after tomorrow and he WAS eating/drinking,etc then to come pick up the rest of the medicam. As long as he wasn't gagging.

We got home about an hour ago and he's doing a lot better. Bright eyed and hoppy again! he's really tired though. BUT! I put him in his cage and he hopped into his litterbox and went pee! He also nibbled at some of the alfalfa and a little bit ago he laid down on his belly with his legs stretched out behind and in front of him - definitely not a sign of pain! anndd, he hasn't gagged at ALL, YAY! Right now he's asleep laying with his legs under him(but not hunched up like he's hurting). I just have to keep a very close eye on him for the next 24 hours to make sure he stays okay. I really think my mom's heimlich manuever dislodged whatever was there..thank god! Poor boy is probably pretty traumatized though, it got a little hectic lol!
I am so emotionally exhausted now, but I am so happy he's alright.

PLEASE continue sending vibes that he will heal quickly and he won't need anymore vet intervention!


Mom of Demi and Sprout

***R.I.P Dallas & Duncan - I will always love and miss you boys..***

User is Offline Cassi&Charlie
Canberra
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1/19/2009 2:23 PM
Oh my goodness, poor Duncan! Sending healing vibes his way, although he sounds like he's in amazing hands.
(((Duncan)))
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User is Offline jerseygirl
Australia
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1/19/2009 5:19 PM
Hope Duncan continue to improve! You poor, poor thing, how scary! Glad you found someone who was willing to help. Being directed back and forth between unhelpful clinics is not what you needed at a time like that! How frustrating! ((Duncan))
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User is Offline BB
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1/19/2009 9:01 PM
OH my gosh!! I didn't realize I was holding my breath the whole time I was reading your last post until I took a deep breath at the end. What a stressful time for you all! But I'll tell you what, your bunny couldn't have asked for a better family to care for him. You have done an AMAZING job to try and get the right care for him. Your persistence along with the last vets care really is to be commended! Even though she wasn't experienced with exotics, I too am impressed by her willingness to help and do and learn what she could.

Good for you for all you have done, and I am sending peace vibes to you and your mom, and health vibes to your sweet bunny.

OH, how did you end up getting to the vets?

User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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1/19/2009 9:21 PM
{{VIBES}}

It sort of sounds like your mom dislodged whatever it was!! That vet you went to sounds great! Continued healing vibes but I bet he's already on the mend

BB is right, he couldn't have asked for a better family!
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User is Offline DallasDelight
Waco, Texas
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1/20/2009 4:21 AM

Thank you all!! BB, my dad had to come home before he left to ho to Lubbock, I told him what was going on and he stayed home and drove us to the vets. He left afterwards for Lubbock, but almost 4 hours late!

Duncan is doing great this morning! He has a few runny poo's, but quite a few normal ones. He didn't eat any pellets and I don't think he ate much hay, but he did eat all his celery. I don't think he drank last night, unless it was just a sip. But because he ate the celery, which I soaked in water, I decided I was gonna give him until about 12pm to start drinking. No need for that now though, he is drinking!

Thank you all for the healing vibes and very nice compliments!


Mom of Demi and Sprout

***R.I.P Dallas & Duncan - I will always love and miss you boys..***

User is Offline wendyzski
Chicago, IL
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1/20/2009 4:43 AM

I logged on here right away this morning to find out how Duncan was.  What a day!  I'm glad it looks like he's going to be okay.

I thank my lucky stars that I have a local exotics vet that has an in-house 24-hr emergency clinic!


User is Offline xParadise
Edmonton, Alberta
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1/20/2009 5:38 AM
I'm so glad to hear Duncan's okay and that your dad was able to take you to the vet! Duncan is very lucky to have you, and your brave mom too! I would be so afraid to give my bunny the heimlich! You must be so relieved..

User is Offline bunnytowne
florida
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1/20/2009 8:14 AM

What good quick thinking about the bunny heimlick.  We did have a post about that previously and am sorry I never thought to mention it to you.

Glad you picked it up on your own somehow. Excellent.  Whew what a situation. Glad it Duncan is better now.  Poor fellow. He must be relieved.

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User is Offline RachelF
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1/20/2009 9:19 AM
We need a "how-to" video for the bunny heimlick So glad little Duncan is okay. They can go downhill so quickly, I can't even imagine how scared you were.

User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
New Brunswick, Canada
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1/20/2009 2:49 PM

I also breathed a big sigh of relief at the end of your post. Poor Duncan and how scary that must have been. I think there is NOTHING worse than seeing my buns in pain and not knowing what to do to help, especially when there is no vet help around. So glad to hear everything turned out okay.

 

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User is Offline RabbitPam
South Florida
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1/20/2009 2:58 PM
I'm just reading this now - what an ordeal, but I agree, your family is fantastic. Especially your mom, who probably did save him.
Just wondering, did you look in the burrito at all to see if there was a little something that popped out of his mouth? Or around where he was being heimliched?

Maybe something a little less stringy than celery until he is healed. Just some green leaf lettuce or romaine possibly.
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User is Offline MimzMum
Interior Alaska
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1/20/2009 8:31 PM
Hogeeze, I'm just coming to this post now. I am so glad Duncan is okay! I hope he continues to improve and that you will be okay too! ((((((DD))))))))))
*shakes head* I don't know if it's just the Holland/Mini lop breed or what, but they seem to have a lot of breathing difficulties/episodes. Mimzy had been making strange noises again recently through his nose and I was glad to find that, after cleaning out ALL traces of hay dust, he is doing much better. But the last time that happened, I was running to my not-so-exotic vet 30 minutes away at top speed and my bun suddenly got better in the carrier on the way also. I think you and I would both give our eyeteeth to get closer, more experienced vets!

Sounds like everything turned out for the best. I do hope all is well with you today.
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