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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > HOUSE RABBIT Q & A > Post for Craigslist Ad Re: post spay pulling out staples
Last Post by rabbitsmba at 11/13/2008 7:26 AM (7 Replies)
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User is Offline Ang
Auburn, WA
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11/12/2008 4:33 AM

comm-915475889@craigslist.org

 

this is the reply i told the lady to come here.

 

Hello-
I recently had my English Lop spayed and within a day she had pulled out her stitches and her insides came outside. She had to be rushed back to the vet for emergency surgery where they put in staples. The next day she pulled out some of the staples. She is not really eating very much either which can be detrimental for buns. At this time, I have $500+ dollars in vet bills and can't afford to keep having to take her in.
After she pulled her staples, the vet didn't have much in the way of suggestions as to how to deal with this situation, such as how to keep her from pulling out the rest of the staples, and I couldn't find much info online so I am wondering if anyone had experience with this and if anyone has suggestions. I love my bunny and I would very much appreciate any advice/suggestions anyone has. My bunny and I appreciate you reading this long email!

I love my Moreland!

User is Offline Beka27
Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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11/12/2008 4:59 AM
vets can give e-collars (the big cone things) for bunnies post-surgery if they're having a problem. i wonder why the vet would not suggest that? it is harder for bunnies to eat with them on, but the better solution would be an e-collar and hand-feeding critical care, rather than doing continual surgeries.
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User is Offline rabbitsmba
Mississauga, ON, Canada
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11/12/2008 5:04 AM

My Fluffy had to wear a collar too as he kept chewing his stitches....

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User is Offline Colin
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11/12/2008 6:03 AM

If the cone doesn't work, I've also read that a towel (or possibly diaper?) can be secured around the bunny's body so they can't get to the staples/stitches. I would imagine that the cone would be easier and more effective though, other that difficulty eating and drinking.


User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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11/12/2008 8:16 AM

I can't believe the vet said there was not more he could do!!  I'd be willing to bet the bunny is pulling out the stitches as she didn't get pain meds!

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User is Offline KatnipCrzy
Holland, MI
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11/12/2008 8:41 AM

Everyone else has given good advice and comments.  Definitely keeping the bunny from getting to the incision is important- either with ecollar (most fool proof way usually), bite not collar, or belly band.  Also the pain med issue should be addressed- if the bunny is in pain and trying to remove source of perceived pain?  or the bunny is on pain meds so the trauma she is causing is not hurting much at the time of chewing out sutures and pulling staples.

Also- there should be some internal sutures also- which sounds like they were destroyed at first incident.  But hopefully the second time the bunny only got a few skin staples out.  If any further damage was done to the internal layers of the abdomen- it does need to be fixed!  It could heal OK- but if it leaves a gap in the abdominal wall and creates a hernia that is very dangerous for the bunny- as the intestines can slip thru the body wall and then get strangulated, lose blood/oxygen supply and die.  That would result in another emergency surgery for the bunny if you can catch it in time and bunnies are so, so sensitive about GI surgery- that is NOT a good outcome.

Another possibility to the cone, and physical ways of preventing the bunny from getting to the incision- is to use stainless steel wire externally on the skin layer for closing the skin- and leaving little tabs (excess) on the knots- it will create a poky barrier.  Obviously THIS MUST BE DONE BY A VET- but I know that sometimes they do resort to this trick with small animals (hamsters, rats, etc to try to keep sutures in until it is healed).  Stainless Steel surgical wire does not cause a suture reaction (the body does not reject it sometimes like other suture materials) and can easily be removed when incision is healed.  (I had a cat that had an internal layer of wire sutures that showed on her x-rays- it was kinda cool actually).

But it does sound like a second opinion with another vet is needed- if some of the above things were out of the vets range of answers/possibilities- then they need another vet!!!!

Cotton and Schroeder- Mini Lops Griffin- English Lop

User is Offline BunnyMuffin
Grand Forks, ND
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11/12/2008 10:36 AM

Yeah - my bun kept chewing at her stitches post-spay.  My vet said that the cones don't work for rabbits, but never specified why - but I just kept her wrapped up in socks/elastic bandages/leggings/etc until it was time for them to be removed.

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I hope it all works out okay!


User is Offline rabbitsmba
Mississauga, ON, Canada
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11/13/2008 7:26 AM
Oh man I wish I had thought of the socks idea for Fluffy! He was SO disapproving of his cone and overnight he actually got both his front paws stuck under the cone trying to get it off. A big soft sock would've been perfect for him...
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