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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > BONDING > Max and Meadow: Bonding Fun! *BONDED*
Last Post by Beka27 at 7/11/2008 9:43 AM (72 Replies)
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User is Offline Beka27
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6/13/2008 10:49 AM

the bonding fun continues.

okay... i am condensing everything into one thread b/c i forget what i have where.

some background... in this thread, i talked about getting Max and a little bit of the preliminary bonding, as well as pics.  binkybunny.com/Default.aspx

in this thread, i experiment with stressing them out on the washing machine.  this thread has video footage of how that went. binkybunny.com/Default.aspx

you can also see the videos by going to my YouTube:  www.youtube.com/user/Beka27

 

i'll update later with how today's sessions went.

 



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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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6/13/2008 10:59 AM
I think my favorite one is the bonding 2 after the drier one...Meadow -> "GROOM ME!!" LOL too cute! I think your doing great!


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User is Offline Princess*Smudge
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6/13/2008 11:14 AM
hehehe I agree K&K I was watching it and Meadow is so animated you can almost script the scene "HEY YOU FLOPPY EARED THING... I WANT TO BE GROOMED" and then when Max turns away she goes over to him to say "EXCUSE ME I BELIEVE I MADE A REQUEST!".. the whole time watching Max I was just saying 'come on you can do it just lick her head.... come on you're so close' lol my family in the room thinks I'm a little crazy



User is Offline Beka27
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6/14/2008 2:19 AM

here's the video from yesterday afternoon.  sorry it's so dark again.  i can see perfectly fine, but i guess when i'm doing this at 3-4 o'clock the sun is moving to the other side of the house and it looks like it's pitch black.

www.youtube.com/watch

this is what went on yesterday.  we did another hour, no stress before hand.  the area is smaller with a NIC grid fence blocking past the dresser.  no fights.  there was one fur-pulling scuffle that stopped when the water bottle came out.  Max is afraid of Meadow now.  when she walks up to him, he thumps and then hops away quickly.  i was petting him a lot to try and calm him down...  there was possessiveness of the hay-filled litterbox the day before, so i added in a small cardboard box with more hay.  they both would take turns in the litterbox and nibbling from the other box.  the above video starts off with Meadow and Max nose to nose.  she presented to him for grooming and laid there for several minutes.  he just sat looking at her.  there was no grooming on his part (or hers).  i gently dropped a few drops of the water onto their heads, but still no grooming.  i would reach over and rub both of their heads myself, i guess to simulate grooming, is this a good idea or no?



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User is Offline Beka27
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6/14/2008 12:22 PM

i took Max and Meadow in my room right after work. there were no fights. no fur-pulling. no nipping. Max was sitting in the litterbox and i lifted Meadow in there and they sat together, side-by-side for about ten minutes. Meadow continued to present herself for grooming and Max just sat there. i dripped some water on each of their heads... then Meadow started to GROOM Max's ear. this went on for about a minute. she hopped out and came up to me, so i gave her some pets. i put her back in the box with Max and she settled down.  --->  www.youtube.com/watch

she hopped out again, i gave her some more pets for a few minutes, and then i put her in the litterbox once again, and this is when she really went to town grooming Max. she licked his ear, inside and out and by his eye.  --->  www.youtube.com/watch

THEN MY CAMERA DIED!!!   <--------Grrr.......

 

but there was GROOMING!  so that's something, right?  it gives me some hope at least...



Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline RabbitPam
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6/14/2008 1:43 PM
Wow, Beka, Meadow grooming him, not the other way round, looks terrific to me!
Maybe he's just learned to play hard to get.....


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User is Offline Sarita
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6/14/2008 1:49 PM
Grooming is good. You still may have some way to go though. Sometimes the supervised sessions don't tell it all, but I think you have made alot of progress. It's good that you are persistent and keep a routine.

Bonding vibes for Meadow and Max.



User is Offline Beka27
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6/14/2008 3:02 PM
yes, Max is still pretty scared of her. i don't blame him, she's been less than hospitable this week... i'm just gonna keep with what i'm doing for now.


Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline babybunsmum
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6/15/2008 3:36 AM

oh wow beka... it really looks like you've made great progress!  max will prolly need consistant behaviour from mead before he relaxes around her.  interesting that mead is the one doing the grooming.  does that mean max will be dominant even tho mead is the agressor? 



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User is Offline Beka27
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6/15/2008 3:41 AM
^ ? good question... i took it to mean almost like it was Meadow apologizing and realizing that hey, this bun isn't so bad. of course, i'm probably way off, but that's my human interpretation... she was still presenting to him tho also...


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User is Offline JK
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6/15/2008 3:56 AM

Looks like some great progress to me!!! Your persistence will pay off soon.  They are so cute.  Is Max good with the litterbox etc???Any marking from the little miss?




User is Offline Beka27
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6/15/2008 4:04 AM
Max is about 98% with the litterbox. he has never had a pee accident at all... just a few poops around. even those have pretty much stopped. Meadow was marking a lot more. she peed in the corner of the plastic cage bottom in the xpen for a couple days. she's been leaving some poops around. i'd say she's at about 90% now. i think she is doing it because everyday i switch their xpens.


Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline JK
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6/15/2008 4:10 AM

That's pretty good then.  Max was an outside bun before, right? So if that's the case then he probably had no litter box so he's doing incredibly well!  All ready to be sent to me...




User is Offline Beka27
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6/15/2008 4:18 AM
lol... i better get a padlock for the xpen...

he was allowed to play outside, but he was housed indoors in bad or cold weather and at night. so he was litterbox trained. she said he would probably lose the habits for a few days but they'd come back... and they did. i have no complaints with him, except that he's a bit scared of us. i haven't been doing too much to bond to him b/c i've been so focused on him and Mead.


Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline kimberleyanddarren
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6/15/2008 4:42 AM
glad to see its going well awesome videos!



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User is Offline Beka27
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6/17/2008 7:46 AM
i just re-read Markus' bonding thread. that thing is invaluable. thanks so much Markus for documenting everything!

Max and Meadow sound a lot like Dono and Maryann. things are still the same after the weekend. Max is afraid of her, he will tense up and thump if she comes near him. if i put him next to her, he will either bolt, or hunch way down. if she walks up to him, he will jump over her to get away. she is seeking him out, but he's trying his best to avoid her.


Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline JK
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6/17/2008 8:16 AM

That's it!  I'm sending my lear jet out to pick him up!




User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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6/17/2008 11:51 AM
Wow great progress Beka!! Looks like Meadow's quite comfortable with him and even likes him. I'm sure, with good grooming like that, he'll soon love her back!!

IMHO I'd set up the xpen in that configuration that Maryann-Dono had and leave them in there together soon (maybe a few more sessions) but you look like your almost done bonding!!


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User is Offline Beka27
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6/17/2008 1:42 PM
today we did another hour in the bedroom. there was no aggression, and Max seemed more laid-back. he thumped only once. he even groomed Meadow for about 10 seconds while they were sitting in the litterbox together.

after that i let them out in their room together briefly. i put up the baby gate so they were confined in the area and opened up one half of the pen. they sat in the same side for about five minutes. Meadow did do a half-lunge towards him a couple times as he hopped around, but there was no real fighting, and then they ignored each other for the rest of the time, about 15 more minutes.

if things continue like this for the rest of the week, i'm going to try something else over the weekend.


Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline babybunsmum
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6/17/2008 2:17 PM

oh beka thats fabulous!   grooming from meadow... yay

i'm def following your lead with the switching of areas.  i just wish i could have bonding sessions at the same time.  ah well.

so what's next for the sweeties? 

 



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