SO many questions!!!

[kiyisha]

So, my husband and I have been discussing the possibility of getting another pair of bunnies, we have simba and binky who are a bit over a year old, a bonded pair of brothers. We have been on the topic literally for months, and this weekend he decided to take the plunge so to speak, so we contacted someone who had some 8 week old bunnies for adoption and we took two of them home, another set of brothers.

I am quickly learning that you can never learn too much about rabbits, EVER. And I am also kicking myself to death for not being *more* prepared for all of this, I never expected things to be this frustrating. 

So we picked up another pair of brothers, named them freckles and peter, and they are just a joy, so excitable, so fun to be around. I forgot how much baby bunnies poo before they are trained! though these little ones are very fast learners, already getting the jist of going in the box vs just anywhere. 

Simba and binky share a room in the basement with a rather large cage, it’s about 20 square feet and they get full run room of the basement for at least 4 hours a day, I extended their cage a bit, put a barrier in the middle to keep fighting at bay, but to allow them to all get used to each others scent. The same trick the vet told me to start with when binky and simba had a falling out when hormones kicked in last year before we got them fixed.

I realize now that all the planning in the world couldn’t have prepared me for this. I feel like I need an acre worth of house space to give them enough space, but in all reality the only decent space I have is the basement. I can’t begin to say how guilty and angry at myself I am for going through with adopting these babies, without realizing how deeply they would impact my older ones. 

When bonding with my older boys it was much easier, they only had each other, i used a lot of stress bonding and their real bond came after they were fixed. The little ones can’t be fixed for minimum one more month, and I’m really worried. It’s only day two, and binky and simba are very angry at me, it’s breaking my heart. Binky won’t stop thumping at me, and simba won’t stop trying to get to the little ones to fight them, he actually managed to because of poor prep on my part (thank god I was fast and separated quick)

I have been trying to brainstorm a temporary cage for the little ones, something further from the older boys, but there’s just no where else to set up a cage and give them enough space, I feel like they are just not getting enough room if i don’t give them at least 15sq feet per cage, the older boys have at least 20sq feet though. 

So on to the questions, when you guys brought home a third, fourth, or another pair of bunnies, how did your other bunnies respond to their scent? I know now I should NOT have got them, I thought for sure, 4 tiny bunnies (all are very small, simba and binky around 4lbs, and the little ones under a pound, they are very tiny) would have more than enough room down here, in all reality they do, but this is simba and binky’s home first and foremost, so I’mat a loss now.

Too little too late to change things, the purchase has been made, and I’m not the type to just return a pet as if it’s an object, and I’m already in love with the little cuties. But I am heart broken that my older bunnies are so mad at me. Will their anger at me pass? Are they just being angry at me because they had to give up a little of their space? 

Am I just being too sensitive and taking things to heart too much? Is there anything I can do for now, that can help ease tension? I have been spending way more time than normal with simba and binky in hopes to reassure them that I am not in any way trying to replace them. I just wanted a bigger bun family.

If I absolutely have to I will rehome the little ones, I don’t want anyone to end up hurt or unhappy because of me, but I don’t want to be that person, I don’t want to randomly get an animal then give up on it, i never have done that and I never will.

This is so much more stressful than I expected, if anyone has any advice for me whatsoever I would be incredibly grateful

[kiyisha]

I have done some research on cages, they currently have a large play pen described above but only 1 level, 20sq feet for the big boys and 15 for the little ones. I am looking up the things needed to make the 3×2 tall cages, I am going to buy the stuff to do that in a couple of weeks, i only need one more box of grids and the dowels/plywood set up, i have everything else, those will help a lot I think, and even if they can’t be bonded as a quartet in the future, I can have two seperate bonded pairs, I have been doing 2 hours play time incriments for both bunnies, each set will have about 6hrs of run time a day plus their large cage to run in if they need to burn more energy. I am thinking of building a run/cage to one and allow the other set to just have free run of everything else. I have been spending the day researching and trying to find a solution, and my brain has been going nonstop since i got them

[Mikey]

Every time you bring another bunny into a group of bonded buns, you risk the possibility of breaking the bonded bunnies apart. You also risk the first bunnies being angry and upset as rabbits do not like change. You mentioned that you shortened their space, this would make them unhappy. You also mentioned that the two new bunnies are in their space as well now, on the other side of the boarder, that too will cause your first bunnies to be upset. Its also not a good idea to have 4 boys. Male x Female pairs are the easiest and although multiple same sex buns can bond together, they are often hardest to try to bond. It also adds fuel to fire because you did not let your previous bunnies pick our their new friends, you simply brought two strangers home. Im not saying all of this to be rude, but so you know what to expect. Do you plan to make your bunnies a quad or keep them as two pairs?

I dont think itll be as bad that youll need to rehome the little ones. At most, i think youll just be stuck with two pairs rather than one big quad. Spending time with your first pair is a good start. Baby them as much as you can, while still giving the new bunnies a fair amount of attention. You can try the swap and/or toy tactic after the new bunnies get more comfortable. The swap tactic would be swapping their litter boxes, water bowls, and toys between each pairing every few days. It allows them to get used to sharing, and introduces them to one anothers scents. The toy tactic is similar. You buy cheap stuffed dog toys and give them to each bunny. After a week or two, swap the toys between the pairs. Allow them to box, bite, nip, mount, ect the toys. After another week, swap the toys again. Still allow them to do what they want with the toys. The idea with this is that they get their aggression out on the false bunny and are met with no reaction, slowly teaching them that the new bunnies are not a threat. It will be a stressful while for everyone as you shouldnt begin any sort of bonding, if you do want a quad, until atleast a month after the two new buns are neutered. The bonding process for some is fast (my trio took 3 weeks), while some take a much longer time (there was a thread on here a few months back of a person trying to bond their bunnies for 5+ months with very little progress). In the end, it all depends on your bunnies personalities. They may take to one another fairly fast when hormones are out of the picture. The first buns may forgive you once they realize the babies are not threatening. They may hold a grudge for a while, then get over it after they feel theyve been given enough attention/love/bribes. Their personalities will determine how you should move forward each step of the way

For my bunnies since you asked what it was like for people who broght home a third+
Blue and Bombur took to one another fairly quickly. We didnt know about bonding, so they had no prebonding or bonding sessions. Each had their own cage. Blue was with us first and hated that he had to share free roam time, but they quickly learned to just ignore one another and that worked out well for them. Blue was neutered, and they became the best of friends. Bombur is neutered now as well, and they are so close. Bombur is very attached to Blue. We cant take Bombur anywhere without also taking Blue so he doesnt freak out. We added Badger into the mix in January, i think. The other two bunnies picked him out, and had an hour+ session at the pet store to see if they would take to eachother kindly. Everyone was cuddling by the end of the session
Taking Badger home was a different story. Blue needed a lot more attention to feel comfortable in being the Alpha of the trio. Bonding sessions were short and frequent, and evolved to 5+ hour sessions per day by the end of it. It took three weeks, but they share a giant cage, litter boxes, the living room, food, ect now (Badger is set to be neutered next month, so he is removed from the group until then, but they all still get along as i have them doing bonding sessions once a week for an hour in the bathroom; there is still no fighting, circling, nipping, ect/they all still get along)

[kiyisha]

I would like to put them together someday, i know the bonding process can take upwards of a year if things go badly but for the time being and probably forever they will be in two seperate pairs. I honestly don’t intend to even attempt bonding them until the little ones are fixed and well bonded themselves (I too was thinking a month after they are fixed, so 2 months from now), my main goal at this point is to make sure that the little ones are and stay bonded, as well as my big ones, the older ones aren’t fighting each other, they’re just giving me the cold shoulder a bit, and I am being sure to give them far more attention than I normally do, giving them tons of cuddles and loves and checking on them extremely frequently.

I promise you I am kicking myself a thousand times over for making such a split decision, the planning and prep were just not there, and I hate that I didn’t think this through, at the same time I had been hoping and planning to get more buns for months, and honestly thought we had the space as the two older boys seem to have ample running space, but then I didn’t think this all through as thoroughly as I thought I had. Hindsight is truly 20/20. 

The bonding process I am using is a very very slow one, it’s the one my vet suggested before I brought up to her my success with stress bonding, which is how I got simba and binky to love one another again after they had unbonded from hormones. A process I am going to do my darndest to stay ahead of with the little ones, I am going to speak to my vet about getting them fixed asap since I know the exact date of birth, perhaps we can take care of the testosterone before it goes crazy like it did with binky. I will admit I am not looking forward to dealing with THAT again, but it is a small price to pay, my bunnies are truly my children, i can’t imagine living without rabbits now that I’ve had them (and spoiled them rotten too)

I LOVE your ideas with the small stuffies, this is a genius idea, and it might not be a horrible idea to buy a few toys now, and keep swapping them around for a couple of months, giving them some time to get used to each other. The bickering and aggression is becoming less, when I think of how it was the second I brought the little ones home vs how it is today, it’s considerably calmer, aside from my little mishap earlier in missing a important step in securing the cage, I also feel horrible for that, but after making sure everyone was ok I chalked it up to another mistake to add to the do not repeat list. I’m not proud of making an extreme amount of poor decisions lately, I just want to do right by all the buns and keep everyone happy. The space that the little ones are occupying is space that the bigger ones had access to, but didn’t really use, I feel that the reason they are being territorial about it is simply because it’s still *their* space. So… Another bad decision, but I think I have a decent setup between the cages now, no ways for little bunny noses to poke through and get nipped at, and they can (and have) actually lay down side by side and sleep next to each other. (I saw binky doing it with one of the babies and just about squealed myself hoarse) 

As far as the actual introduction process I thought maybe using a mix of the methods I have learned from others, coupled with the ones I know for a fact work with simba and binky (and I can ONLY HOPE they work for the little ones, ie; bathroom bonding/tub/laundry basket/scary vacuum)

[kiyisha]

Also I can’t remember if I posted it or not, because I can’t see what I posted in my post earlier, but I had an idea about doing the 2×3 grid cages, and setting one group of buns up with a run, and the other group could have full run of the basement, and i could switch it off by days, if I do end up with two pairs of buns, this idea wouldn’t be awful would it?

[LBJ10]

There have been several stories on here where the bond of an existing pair of bunnies was broken by the introduction of a new rabbit. This, by far, does not happen in every case. I think your bunnies will get over it with time, but be prepared for rockiness in their relationship.

As for the two new boys… I know you want to give them a lot of room. Since they can be neutered in about a month, is there any way you can temporarily house them upstairs until then? Even though your older bunnies are neutered, they can still detect hormones in other bunnies. The presence of other bunnies, especially hormonal ones, can trigger some strong reactions sometimes. If they are causing a lot of problems then it might be better to keep them completely separated until the younger boys have been neutered. Then you can start doing formal introductions (if you wish to have a quad, that is).

[Mikey]

That sounds like a good plan. Having both pairs bonded first, then seeing how they fit in the future Its awesome to hear that you are willing to work with all of your bunnies for as long as it takes. It is always so worth it in the end! Stress bonding them is good, but if they already get alone, try not to stress bond too much. It is possible for your older buns to feed off of the emotions of your younger buns. Such as, if your new buns feel nervous, your older buns might pick up on that and feel nervous too. LBJ also made a good point, if it is possible, it might help our your first pair if you could house the new pair upstairs until they can be fixed

Dont worry too much about having a cage mishap. The same happened to me the first day we brought Badger home and it ended with some fur flying everywhere. As long as no one was harmed, and everybunny is willing to forgive and forget, i wouldnt worry about it. Try not to blame yourself Its an awesome sign you have seen them flopped next to each other, too! At the very least, you know they arnt mad at eachother, which is an awesome first sign

With youre idea of one pair in the pen and another pair free roaming, it could be a good idea. Youll just have to secure it so none of the rabbits can push the pen round, and make sure no one can nip through the bars. If everything can be secured, i dont see why you shouldnt try it

[kiyisha]

I have been keeping a very close eye on everyone and things have seemed to calm down immensely, simba seems to be holding at least slightly less of a grudge at me, and happily binkyed at me when I went to give them their morning pellets. They seem to be adjusting to sharing space now, and not missing the space they weren’t using in the first place.

My issue with housing the bunnies upstairs is our housemates, we wouldn’t have anywhere safe to put them, we chose to take on the basement so we would have more room and our housemates took the upstairs, which is fine with us, but like I stated earlier, I didn’t think this as through as I should have, even though I thought I was far more prepared than I was.

I spent the day yesterday doing tons of research on bonding, on new cages and the like. The cages they have now take up a LOT of floor space, if I build the 3x3x2 bunny condo I think that would work well for both pairs as they are both smaller bunnies and hubby and I discussed it last night, we are going to bite the bullet and buy everything for the new cages in a week and a half when he is paid again. I am going to modify it a bit, as I don’t really want to use plywood, I would rather use something easier to change out, and I will still stick with the indoor/outdoor carpet from home depot. I am going to get some more uhaul blankets and use those as the absorbant layers under the carpet because we all know little buns have lots of accidents still. I am still amazed at how quickly they have picked up litter training though, there are literally no pee spots in the hallway whatsoever, only the few spots in the cage, which makes cleaning MUCH easier on me.

Within a week and a half we will have 2 bunny runs set up in the basement, that way I don’t have to do “sessions” for each pair to play, they can all play at the same time, I will make one run in the bunnies room, and another one will run from the entrance to their room through the hallway and back, plenty of space for everyone to get tons of exercise.

The only thing I could do as far as moving the babies would be to temporarily house them in my bedroom, but it isn’t bunny proofed and they would be stuck in their cage which would be MUCH smaller compared to what they have now, more like 5-7sq feet vs 15sq feet. I have a temp cage I use for sick guinea pigs or buns (which hasn’t happened yet thank goodness) to separate them from the rest of the crew. But honestly that’s the best I have at the moment, I considered worst case scenario, which in my mind would be finding a good happy home for the little ones, but I don’t want to give them up, I feel that’s a selfish decision as well so I am trying to make sure to do the best for everyone.

Other than a couple thumps from binky yesterday (likely because I keep bugging them way more than normal) everyone seems to be calmed down, simba was the main concern, even though i thought binky would be the problem with aggression, it was simba who was like “GTFO my house!” lol.

I honestly can’t think of another solution to the bunny cage issue, other than moving them across the room from each other (which isn’t possible in their current cage, so it’ll have to wait til the new ones) I can’t think of anything that I could do that would ensure the happiness of everyone. I did go purchase some small dog toys yesterday and tossed them in with the little ones so they can get their scent all over it and the older ones can get more used to them as well.

I don’t regret getting them, I just regret not doing more research on genders. I didn’t know much about bonding when I got binky and simba, but they were brothers, and they love eachother (most of the time, there was only ONE scuffle since the new ones came in to the picture, and it ended very quickly with only a 5 minute time out needed in the laundry basket)

I think you misunderstand my stress bonding, when I did stress bonding with simba and binky to get them to love each other again after they had a falling out when their hormones kicked in, I did the side by side cage for a month, tried normal bonding methods and they said to hell with all of that. Tried the bathroom, it worked like a charm, but only once. After hitting my near breaking point because it devistated me to see two buns who once loved each other now just bicker all the time, I did more research into stress bonding. My stress bonding sessions with simba and binky were only maybe 30-45 minute sessions in a laundry basket, with a vacuum going for a few minutes of that if they were being mean, or the occasional shake of the basket just to scare them into cuddling. Also worked like a charm and I have only had to do that maybe a handful of times. I’m not stressing them out ALL the time, I know how fragile bunnies are and I have no intentions of causing anyone any harm, which is exactly why I made this thread, and account, to get advice on how to keep EVERYONE happy.

Stress bonding was just the method that worked well with binky and simba, it was about the only one that stuck, and it worked FAST, they were cage mates within days after I started the stress bonding, after spending weeks with them trying to get them to like each other again.

Knowing what I do know about bunnies, hormones, and falling outs, I am trying to also be prepared for when it happens with the little ones, if I can catch it before anyone is traumatized (I didn’t know what I was looking for the first time, so I messed it up with simba and binky, which probably made the re-bonding a lot harder on myself) I’ll be quick to seperate and get them fixed from there, I was going to ask my vet if I can just set up an appointment to get them fixed at 3 months, but then I was reading something online about how you have to wait until their boys drop?

I regret making a “split” decision on getting them simply because I didn’t get at least ONE girl to make this entire process MUCH easier on myself, but you bond who you bond with. I pick pets based on my bond with them, and (not bragging) I’m actually pretty good at it. But for the bunnies sake, I feel like an idiot. I should have let them choose their cage mate instead, it would have made a thousand times more sense. I just let my heart get away with me because I fell so head over heels for freckles (hes the little cuddly one) just like simba was at a baby, now he’s a big cuddly one. And I felt like I couldn’t just bring home one baby, what if I couldn’t get him to bond to the other two? then he would be lonely… *sigh* Again, didn’t think about all the ins and outs like I should have. Or perhaps I thought it over too much. I just want to right my wrongs and make them happy, that’s my only concern here.

Some how some way I will make this work. We might have to buy a guinea pig cage or build a new one and move the piggies, they have a big 20sq foot cage by the window at the bottom of the stairs, I could put them in a C&C in the bunnies room, and move one set of bunnies out into the hall. The bunnies are used to sharing their space with piggies, they used to eat and play together as babies, until the hormones hit and I had to worry about the piggies. Which is unfortunate because I even went to the vet to make sure the buns were safe to play with the piggies, and they were, but I worry too much now to just let the piggies roam around with the buns out.

We have a hamster living in the bunnies room on a small stand, I am going to get a high up table and put her on that, that way the bunnies can run under the table and it’ll open up a bit more run space for them. I’m tetrising things around to try to make this as easy as possible on everyone, including myself. My brain has been on bunny mode non stop since Saturday, trying to figure all this out.

[Mikey]

Thats awesome to hear that everyone has calmed down  Im glad they are starting to forgive you, too, and that they dont mind sharing the space as much as they did before

Your cage idea is nice since they have a big area to run outside of the cage. If you need a pretty cheap and easy to clean option, i recommend C&C cages  

The two different runs for the buns sounds like a good idea

Since everyone is calming down now, you probly dont have to move the babies to another room. If when they hit puberty, the hormones start to cause everyone to fight, youll want to separate them. But if everyone is fine now, i think it should be fine to keep them where they are. I also dont think youll have to rehome the babies at all since everyone is only showing signs of improvement

Ah, ok. It still stands though that rabbits can feed off of each others stress (and Hormones as mentioned by LBJ). By this, i mainly meant that it would be best to stress bond away from your current bonded pair, like in another room. If they felt that the babies were getting stressed out, because that is what stress bonding is, your older pair could feed off of that and in turn become nervous

Yes, for neuters you have to wait until their testicles descend. When they have descended, the surgery is pretty easy. If they have to be neutered before their testicles have descended, the vet would have to dig a bit to get them out, which will cause more pain to the rabbit when he wakes up. My vet, and i think most vets only neuter before the testicles have descended if the buns life is at risk (infection, internal bleeding, its stuck/swollen, ect). So when the boys have dropped, your buns will be ready

You can bond with a rabbit and want to take it home, but if your other bunnies dont want to bond with it, it will only cause chaos. That is why it is always best to have all pets meet a possible new pet before bringing the new pet home and hoping for the best. The good part is that everyone does seem to have fitting personalities which should help if you plan to make them a quad, and at the very least, make them good room mates with a fence in between

It is a good call to move the piggies away from the bunnies. Although they are adorable together and could make good friends, rabbits re a great deal stronger than piggies, and piggies are a lot more breakable than rabbits

[kiyisha]

Yeah my local guinea pig shelter had a lionhead in a herd of guinea pigs living happily amongst them, it was quite adorable, so when simba and binky were about 6 weeks old to about 12 weeks old they played with the piggies, of course always very supervised, mostly the piggies would mount the bunnies, and the bunnies would binky away adorably, ahh.. How I miss those days! But once the boys hit puberty I had to stop having play dates with everyone in the hallway.

As I am now worrying myself about something I won’t have to worry about for at least another month, I like to think ahead and be prepared. If I need to separate the little ones from the room with the big ones, then have to split them too, because they will likely unbond when they start grumping at each other… Would a 5-7sq foot cage each be enough to temporarily house them as long as I give them plenty of running time and attention?

Sigh… Just when I start to think I am going to have this under control and figure all of it out, another problem arises.

Also the cages I was talking about building were the C&C versions of the bunny condos? I’m not sure how well they are known on here but they seem to give quite a bit of comfortable space and perches, lotsssss of room for hangy toys and noise! A fun place for them to hang out during down time, though they would spend a good 8hrs a day or so in their runs, I would leave them out all the time if I didn’t have to worry about the cats and leaving them unsupervised.

If I have done my math correctly it would be 3grids high, 3 grids horizontal and 2 grids wide. So 30in by 30in by 20in, with 3 different levels, the base, a second level and a top perch. I haven’t figured out how many square feet that is in total, I am aware that is much smaller than their cage is, but it’ll make up for it by giving them places to play and hop to. Also, I would be able to make their runs quite large for play time

[LBJ10]

Condos made from grids are super versatile. You’re smart using those because you can make temporary housing now and reuse them later. I wouldn’t be terribly worried about smaller spaces of they need to be separated. After all, it would only be temporary. I think they’ll survive.

[kiyisha]

Sounds good I am still trying to brainstorm a way to make this all happen sooner, between having to cold turkey quit some meds my doctor had me on because my new one is a jerk and the stress of the new bunnies I’m starting to hit my breaking point.

I just want everyone to be happy, and currently I feel like a complete failure.

[kiyisha]

Sorry, accidental double entry there :/

[kiyisha]

I wonder if anyone else goes to the extreme like I do, and sit and stare at your bunnies quite possibly for hours on end, wondering what they are thinking, if they are happy…

I have done some really fun alterations to the hallway, a bit of cleaning to give them a tiny bit more space, not really much just a couple square feet, but what i did do is way more fun. I moved the ottoman that I had a bin of hay resting on that I use to refill hay racks, I flipped a storage bin over and had a small square cut in it, then melted the plastic so there wouldn’t be any hard edges, put a small litter box under it and they just love it ) so fun, a hidey and litter pan all in one, filled to the brim with yummy hay of course.

I was going to put the ottoman in my room as to give them a tiny bit more space, but when I went back into the hallway to finish putting things away and cleaning up I saw simba laying on the ottoman happily, he hasn’t gotten off of it since he got on it! I keep wandering to the hallway to bun-snuggle him to pieces, he’s being SO sweet today. I think he finally forgives me for the little ones.

I am stressing myself to the point of being sick over all of this, with the lyrica withdrawls on top of it (had no idea those even existed ( and the nerve pain returning isn’t fun either!) I just want everyone to be happy, even if some bunnies have to give up a small amount of run time, though to be fair, I am being very good about letting them run around for a long time, at least 6hrs a day each. I can’t do the cage alterations yet, while I *might* have enough grids, I *don’t* have any dowels I could easily use cardboard/dowels/grids/uhaul/fleece mix to do the little ledges, however, I have nothing I could use for dowels.

I did sit and think a lot last night, what I want to do is a 3×2 grid space, which if i remember right is close to 6sq feet just for that, then the 2nd ledge will be 4 grids which is nearly 4 sq feet, I might do 5 but I haven’t figured out how to do the dowels on that part yet if I do the 5 grids with only 1 hopping hole. The little ones will need ramps, but the bigger ones can definitely hop it without needing ramps. I will do it oppsite, that way if I want to I can put the cages side by side, so if nothing else they can maybe get used to just living in the same room in seperate cages for now? Hubby said if it comes down to it we will do everything we can to be prepared in possible seperation long before we were with simba and binky (yeah I knew nothing of the un-bonding process and being fixed thing back then, I have learned a lot since)

I know this is more expensive than a C&C and probably around the same amount of space, but I have a great idea. If we buy this spare cage, we have a 5-6sq foot circular playpen, it’s made with mesh and stuff so I’m aware they can chew theirselves out, so we might have to find something other than that to use, it was the play pen for the guinea pigs when they were teeny, yeah now they have a 20sq foot cage, 3 boys. My kids are spoiled @_@

Anyway, any ideas about this cage? It would house one of the buns while they are separated during testosterone and the like, but I think my math came out to 7sq feet? I thought it was pretty nice, and it’d be a great emergency cage if any of the buns or piggies got sick and needed quarantine, only Nibbles my piggy has ever been sick, fortunately we caught it very very fast (I pay way too much attention to my animals…is there such a thing? lol) and he is healthy and a happy piggy now

https://www.amazon.com/Living-World-Deluxe-Habitat-X-Large/dp/B007BNE1YA/ref=sr_1_3?s=pet-supplies&ie=UTF8&qid=1472625153&sr=1-3&keywords=rabbit+cage

I know its 81 bucks, but in all reality the cage we bought for our hedgehog when we got her was like, 175 bucks and no where near that nice, I think she is due for an upgrade too. (I may or may not have a zoo down here, but don’t worry, they’re taken better care of than I am!)

With the hallway alterations, the clean cages and rooms that I’m making a point to clean at least once REALLY well a day if not multiple times a day, they seem to be adjusting better. I have stopped doing the 2hr thing and I am starting to do a more 3-4 hour rotation, that way each pair has ample time to burn off some energy before going for a nap in their cage. Cleaning is hard when I feel this lethargic. Medicine withdrawls really suck =/

[kiyisha]

Also, I feel like peter and freckles deserve a round of applause. I know they un-learn once their hormones kick in, but these are some SMART bunnies, both of them in a matter of days has picked up on the litter training, I kid you not I have not had one accident outside their cage yet, aside from little poos, but those are to be expected from lil poop monsters anyway! XD

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