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    • Q8bunny
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        The subject of the perfect bunny first aid kit comes up from time to time, so I thought I’d ask peeps to post pictures etc of their bunbun stash. So I guess I’ll start…

        Chewie graduated from a first aid box to a first aid drawer in my closet room.

        The spray is mineral water spray for cleaning his eyes from a distance (he’s less likely to close them that way).

         

        The Nexcare spray is surgical/liquid bandaid – it’s fab! Beside the eardrops bottle, I’ve got a powerful little LED flashlight that works great for examining inside ears, mouth, and up nose. Yep. Up nose.

         

        In case of dicky tummies, we’ve got yummy things to mix with critical care and/or benebac in our little mixing tray – like pumpkin and sweet potato puree.

         

        We all know that buns can get cold when they feel poorly, so this is a get-wam-and-cozy quick fix.

         

        This is the more serious stuff: baby aspirin and zantac 75 (hidden in the baby aspirin bottle) for short term pain management and GI motility), as well as Metacam and prescription motility solution for longer term treatment. Professional sthetoscope for monitoring lung, heart, and gut sounds. Simethicone beside the vet wrap. A little packet of lubricant beside the rectal thermometer (poor furball!). Sub-Q fluids and IV kit I keep in the fridge and forgot to take out for the photo op.

        These are random and used for things like butt baths, relaxation (Rescue Remedy spray), etc.

         

         

         


      • lovebellabun
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          Wow! I’m only week 3 of being a bunny mom and all I have is the gas drops. I had no idea I needed all of this.


        • Q8bunny
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            You don’t. That’s why I’m interested to see what other parents have on hand.


          • MrBun&Daisy
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              oh my god I feel like an awful bunny mom!!! PEOPLE (and buns) please tell continue this thread so I can make a list of what I need to get!!


            • Q8bunny
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                Oh no! Now I feel bad! Please keep in mind that I have some medical training, a bit of rabbit med knowledge, and do not have easy/speedy access to a bunny vet at all times – so I’ve probably gone a bit overboard to ensure I can provide Chewie with ER care for comon conditions where time is of the essence.


              • Bam
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                  Q8, impressive!
                  I have simethicone drops, ranitidine tablets (same as Zantac), Critical Care, concentrated probiotics-capsules, tweezers, self-adhesive bandages, eye-wash saline, fucidine cream, a variety of feeding-syringes, a 10-second thermometer with a soft tip, styptic powder. Small sharp scissors, compresses, a laser pointer for small wounds (away from the eyes).
                  I live 5 minute’s walk from 3 different pharmacies, so if it’s day-time and not a big holiday I can get more stuff. But as we all know, animals mostly get sick during big holidays and/or in the middle of the night.

                  ETA: For new bunny parents who are just starting their first-aid kit I recommend simethicone drops and feeding-syringes. That’s like the most important stuff. You can use pellet-mash instead of CC short term.


                • Q8bunny
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                    That’s my fear, Bam.


                  • MrBun&Daisy
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                      okay guys, so where can I get these things? I’m in the medical field so I’m familiar with bandages and syringes but past that I’m lost in the bunny medicine world. I’ve been hearing about CC (and also that you can use mashed pellets) but where do you get the meds you have? simethicone is for gas right? We don’t cut our buns nails (we have not tried with daisy yet so I don’t know if she will let me) we have our vet do that but I know what the styptic powder is. is this all sold at a pet store or are these human meds tailored for buns? I’ve had bun for almost a year (my baby will be 1 in a month, yikes!!!) and luckily have not had a problem and daisy has been with us since July. Are the feeding syringes that come with kitten milk small enough?


                    • Q8bunny
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                        Chewie has never had a real medical emergency so far *touch wood* and I hope to keep it this way for a decade or three.

                        My “just in case” stuff is from the pet store, the pharmacy, Amazon, my amazing vet, etc.


                      • MrBun&Daisy
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                          thank you! I’m making my list and will be stocking up! we got pain meds in syringes when bun was neutered and I thought about saving them (when they were empty) but didn’t want to take the chance of not being able to wash them out enough and leaving old medicine in there! I’m glad you posted this because I don’t see a real “bunny 911” section which I think would be helpful. kinda a place where awesome bunny parents like you can make up a list for us newbies! and yes knock on wood we never need any of it!!


                        • Q8bunny
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                            I’m a bit CDO (“it’s like OCD, only the letters are in the correct order” )


                          • Vienna Blue in France
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                              Good gracious me Q8 !! I don’t even have that size first aid kit for me, the cat the dog and the bunny put together !
                              So… I could use ski gloves for the butt baths. Hot water bottle for hypothermia. And I’ve always got a pair of pliers to act as tweezers (for what exactly?). The oven thermometer should do to check températures!

                              There we go….. Sorted !!! LOL

                              You’ve just paniced the entire BB community who have less than 4 years experience !!!

                              as bam said, gas drops and feeding syringes are 2 necessary things that you can’t DIY when shops are closed !!

                              MrBun&Daisy – the only thing with super small syringes is that the hole might be too small for the critcal care or mashed pellets to come out, so it might get stuck. Some people cut the tube bit off which leaves a slightly bigger opening, but be sure to file the cut area off so no sharp bits for bunny’s mouth….


                            • Q8bunny
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                                Hahah! You should see my home kit, my car kit, and the contents of my bugout bag.


                              • Vienna Blue in France
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                                  hahahahahaahaaaa ROFL ! I can imagine !!! And all in little bags !! Do you have a big bag that all the little ones go in ?!

                                  However Miss extremely, almost OCD Organised… I loved your piccies of your baby on your impecable sofa, but I was MOST disappointed..
                                  With what? you may ask…
                                  Well, with the upside down cushion !!

                                  Very disappointed indeed… I’ve come to expect more from you…


                                • Vienna Blue in France
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                                    ….. and btw, what on earth does your “home kit” contain….? A fire extinguisher? Sand bags? An extension ladder……?


                                  • Q8bunny
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                                      LOL Home kit is in little baskets in a little two-drawer cabinet. I’ve got a basic pharmacy in addition to a small trauma kit. Car kit is in a soft case with lots of little compartments; it’s got two fire extinguishers for different types of fires.
                                      Bugout bag is military grade technical backpack so it sort of organizes itself; it includes survival, hunting, and self-defence items in addition to passport and several currencies.

                                      The cushion was Chewie’s fault. He really needs to stop rearranging mommy’s small furnishings.


                                    • Vienna Blue in France
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                                        OMG – the term Bug Out Bag actually exists…I’ve just googled images.. it’s crazy !! I thought it was your home pest control bag !!! LOL
                                        Is it for “the end of the world is nigh” type situation?! or The Walking Dead scenario ?!


                                      • Q8bunny
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                                          It’s for the “I live in a Middle Eastern country with an embassy that doesn’t give a hoot about me” scenario. I put it together with the help of a friend who’s former SAS. Had one confiscated by the cops already during a routine pullover. But this second one has a sling for Chewie so it’s even better.


                                        • Odette
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                                            You’ve got it all, Q8bunny. I’ll use this as a reference to make my own– thank you for sharing. Though I don’t think I can get a Bugout Bag!

                                            Right now, I have simethicone, vet gauze, tweezers, and straight angle scissors

                                            I live within a mile of several 24 hour pharmacies (I don’t know why they cluster them together), so most things are easily accessible. I do need to pick up Critical Care.

                                            By the way, if anyone needs a syringe after hours, most pharmacies sell syringes in their infant supply aisle. I learned that in a panic when my last bunny was sick. Her vet gave me a better one, but that one did the trick for that night.


                                          • Benthebunny
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                                              My bunny first aid kit is… Lettuce. If something is wrong, ben will not eat his favorite food, so lettuce. And pellets, he is cray-zee for pellets. I have one syringe but never used it ever. I never need much because i have a vet about 10-30 minutes away. Also in my first aid kit is warm fluffy blankets, a comb, and thats all i can think of, im not fully awake, (10:22 pm in canada) oh just thought of another thing. A pet carrier. Ben loves his pet carrier. He will sit in there for hours. Unless im cleaning his cage, he bites the wires. A flashlight, magnified glass and binkybunny.


                                            • jerseygirl
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                                                Impressive and organised! Puts me to shame lol. My supplies are spread out across the house, Im afraid to say. I started with a kit in my linen closet. But stuff is also in my bathroom vanity, laundry, pantry, freezer and kitchen table. 

                                                So I can’t really share photos…

                                                My supplies are also depleted so this tread is a great reminder to me to sort that out.

                                                btw, anyone looking to build a kit, there is an old thread in FAQ section that have some lists, if youd like further inspiration.Or use Search feature to find other old threads. 

                                                I have:
                                                Lectade sachet – an oral rehydration formula for animals
                                                Fine grind pellet/hay mix. Out of critical care but have vet 2 minute away where I can buy it.
                                                Fruit puree in the freezer
                                                Infacol – contains simethicone
                                                Loxicom (meloxicam)
                                                Carprofen
                                                Metomide tabs (originally from vet – likely not to use, would get injection from vet instead)
                                                Panacur (originally from vet. don’t know if too old too use)
                                                Ivomec (from vet)
                                                Revolution – one ampule left :/
                                                Benadryl (diphenhydramine) Note: Benadryl in not this drug in the UK
                                                Polaramine (dexchlorpheniramine) Was suggested by my vet for sneezy rabbit when didn’t think was bacterial cause.
                                                Betadine-antiseptic liquid (Iodine)
                                                Medipulv-antiseptic powder that containd chlorhexidine
                                                Medihoney wound gel
                                                Sudocreme
                                                Grapefruit seed extract
                                                Bach’s Rescue Remedy
                                                Saline sachets.
                                                Non adherent sterile dressing pad
                                                Regular gauze bandage
                                                Self adhesive bandage
                                                Various size syringes – though not a big feeding one.
                                                Various guage needles
                                                Flexible thermometer
                                                Mineral oil (usually use when scent glands have hard wax – also used as thermometer lubricant)
                                                Small scissors
                                                Hand sanitiser
                                                Gloves
                                                Q-tips
                                                Cotton pads
                                                I use a wheat heat bag & towel plus my lap for warming up a bunny.
                                                I keep dried willow leaves on hand and grab rose petals from the garden when I have a rabbit not wanting to eat. They will sometimes eat those.

                                                A lot of things (like the meds) I have left from treating a rabbit for various things. They are not things essential in a 1st aid kit.
                                                The meloxicam was for Gooseman but vet allowed me buy whole bottle knowing I have 5 rabbits. I have given if suspected one of the rabbits in pain on occasion.
                                                Im also lucky to have vet close by and pharmacy around the corner.

                                                One thing I still haven’t done is print off useful information to have as hard copy. Like what to do at home for a rabbit that has a gut slow down, for example. I recommend people do that because when you have a sick rabbit, you get stressed! And if like me, things I normally know are not as easy to recall during those times. I also find I will question everything I am trying to do for them.
                                                So a checklist may be useful to use during those time. I normally know how to find the info online but if my internet was down, Id have to rely on my memory or texting friends in the middle of the night.


                                              • Bam
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                                                  I too use the store-all-over-the-place-method of organizing stuff =/ But I’m very proud to say that I have the feeding-syringes and ranitidine in a special container in the kitchen =) Simethicone drops are in the fridge and CC is in the freezer because it’s been opened, opened CC should be stored in the freezer.


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                                                    I haven’t got mine fully together yet, I’m missing a lot of things but I do have a list and a table with most of the items I want to include, what they’re used for and what sort of dosage etc. That will be kept in the kit as well.

                                                    @Jersey, I’ve a few questions for you It’s easy enough to find First Aid lists for rabbits, but then finding products available in Australia is more challenging Is Lectade an electrolyte solution? I’ve been looking at electrolyte things recently but can’t find any powders that don’t have added colours and flavours. Where did you buy it, from a vet or online? I’m assuming the Sudocrem is mainly for sore hocks or other skin irritation? And last question, the Rescue Remedy I’m assuming is the pet drops, it says 2 to their water. Can you give it directly as a faster solution? Probably not I’m guessing since it has to be watered down. This is mainly used to relieve stress I’m guessing, though I’m sure can be helpful when they’re injured to reduce shock etc. I wonder if a fodder store would stock it, I know I can get the human stuff from the chemist.

                                                    So many more things I need to get


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                                                      Thanks for reminding me, JG! I knew there was something I wanted my mom to bring me this winter: Benadryl! The formulation here is not the bunny-safe one.


                                                    • Azerane
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                                                        What do you use the benadryl for?


                                                      • Q8bunny
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                                                          It’s good for allergic reactions, sniffly sneezies, and respiratory distress.


                                                        • Reesebun
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                                                            I keep… a syringe. I had to use it on Reese because she did not want to eat after she got fixed, and to force feed her water on long car rides.


                                                          • GeorgieTheBunny
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                                                              Q8 you impress the heck out of me!
                                                              I have a few things but I don’t have them collected (and labelled!!!) the way you do. I am now inspired.

                                                              I have a 10x14x6 inch wooden box that contains:
                                                              Simethicone, low dose Aspirin, apple banana CC, feeding syringes, nail clippers, buprenorphine (pain med), trimebutine (gut mobility med- script remainder), Fucidin cream and soon a description list of the items (boyfriends and possibly pet sitters might need a touch of direction)

                                                              Other items are around my apartment:
                                                              Pumpkin purée, styptic pencil, tweezers, microwaveable hot pad, flashlight, polysporin

                                                              Questions:
                                                              What’s the Zantac for?
                                                              Is there some reason I should have duplicates of these household, medic or otherwise, items for bunny’s health kit?
                                                              What kind of eye wash products are you using?

                                                              I live across the street from a pharmacy and within a 10 minute walk from my vet, but bunnies like getting ill on national holidays


                                                            • LuvFurBabies80
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                                                                Wow!! Q8 you are one prepared mommy!!
                                                                I am glad you brought this up…I have been doing searches on this forum for reference but some of them are old posts and I wasn’t sure if anything has changed over the years as far as what works, what doesn’t and what was originally thought to be safe but was found to be a not so good thing….
                                                                I have a first aid kit for Walker that I am very sure of…I have had dogs all my life and have dealt with many of situations so I trust my knowledge there but being a new bunny mom I am not so sure of myself so I have been doing a lot of research….

                                                                I am in the process of making Sage’s first aid kit. I have a tote in her room that already contains two sizes of feeding syringes, Critical Care, Smithicone drops, small scissors, styptic powder, thermometer, nail trimmers, q-tips, cotton balls, ben a bac, hot water bottle….it is still a work in progress.

                                                                Jersey where can I find a print out of “what to do if…”? I have found things online but some contradict others…what would be a reliable source for these types of things?


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                                                                  Georgie: LOL at the boyfriend directions
                                                                  Zantac is good as a motility drug in case of national holiday GI stasis.
                                                                  No reason to have duplicates. I just like anything I might need in a bunny emergency to be in one spot.
                                                                  For eye wash, clean water (or spray water like I have) or simple hooman saline solution would do just fine.

                                                                  L4B: I am confident Sage is in very capable hands, so her kit will be just as great as Walker’s by the time you’re through with it.


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                                                                    Q8: thanks for the vote of confidence!! I appreciate it very much!
                                                                    I love my “kids” so much!!!

                                                                    side topic….now that I am a bunny mom I can’t believe I never did it sooner! She is such a joy and loved addition, I never imagined a bunny could be this much a part of my life!!!


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                                                                      Hear, hear!
                                                                      I can’t imagine my life without Chewie and his bum, yawns, poop, nose bonks, etc.


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                                                                        LFB – how is Walker getting on with Sage – can they be together yet?


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                                                                          my daisy must have heard us talking about first aid because she decided to test mommy this morning! she is in a large dog kennel that I have modified so I can just life off the top grate to get to her stuff. well this morning while the top was open little miss thought she could jump out! I heard the cage rattle and look over to see a very panicked little girl teetering on the top of the cage wall. luckily mom was close and ran over to rescue (and got lots of thank you kisses) my girl. I know if she had tried to continue the jump back to the floor her feet would have gotten caught and that would not be good! a quick check of the paws and she’s good to go but now mommy knows to keep the top on now that little miss is getting bigger!


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                                                                            Luvfurbabies80, now I’m answering instead of Jerseygirl, but this is article that I think is really great and that helped me a lot the first times my buns had tummy trouble:
                                                                            http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/ileus.html
                                                                            The only thing about this article that I’d advice against is the part about giving an edema. That’s not sth I’d try at home.

                                                                            Basically anything from The House Rabbit Society, Medirabbit, Dana Krempels, France’s Harcourt-Brown and Molly Varga is good bunny info.


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                                                                              Vienna: they touch noses through the gate, Walker gives her kisses and Sage will come running to the gate when she hears Walkers tags jingling. They will both nap in the afternoon on either side of the gate. Unfortunately Walker can’t be loose around Sage until he learns to calm down a bit. He is not trying to bite or anything its just that he still has a lot of puppy in him and doesn’t realize how big he is…he wants to play sooooo bad…he does his own version of binkying but I am too afraid that he could accidentally hurt her. For the time being when Sage is out and about Walker is on his leash, they do really well when they are just hanging out sniffing each other or laying near each other but when Sage starts to binky and zoom Walker wants to take off and run with her. One misstep and Sage could be seriously injured. We will get there…just working on praising him when he stays calm and he is getting better.

                                                                              Bam: thank you for that information. I will look into the others you suggested as well


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                                                                                Ooof… picturing the two of them interacting makes my heart glad.


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                                                                                  I’m the biggest idiot in the world, some time ago I researched and bought Bepanthen cream for bunny use, and today while sorting out the first aid kit I realise that I bought the wrong one, I bought the First Aid one instead of the regular one. I have no idea how I did that. Oh well, for use with humans now.

                                                                                  I also picked up some baby food today, because I realised I was lacking in that department. Turns out I’m bad at reading packets because the one I bought had already passed it’s best before date (not my fault I suppose). I took it back to the supermarket and switched it out for a current one. I’ll post some pics of my kit and a list once I’m a bit further along with it.


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                                                                                    Az – lol – I think there are actually much bigger idiots than you in the world….


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                                                                                      Azerane: Not likely. I’m fairly certain Vienna’s donkeys take that spot.


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                                                                                        Posted By Azerane on 8/26/2016 4:17 AM

                                                                                        I haven’t got mine fully together yet, I’m missing a lot of things but I do have a list and a table with most of the items I want to include, what they’re used for and what sort of dosage etc. That will be kept in the kit as well.

                                                                                        @Jersey, I’ve a few questions for you It’s easy enough to find First Aid lists for rabbits, but then finding products available in Australia is more challenging Is Lectade an electrolyte solution? I’ve been looking at electrolyte things recently but can’t find any powders that don’t have added colours and flavours. Where did you buy it, from a vet or online? I’m assuming the Sudocrem is mainly for sore hocks or other skin irritation? And last question, the Rescue Remedy I’m assuming is the pet drops, it says 2 to their water. Can you give it directly as a faster solution? Probably not I’m guessing since it has to be watered down. This is mainly used to relieve stress I’m guessing, though I’m sure can be helpful when they’re injured to reduce shock etc. I wonder if a fodder store would stock it, I know I can get the human stuff from the chemist.

                                                                                        So many more things I need to get

                                                                                        Sorry Im only just getting back to you about this. 

                                                                                        Yes, Lectade is electrolye formula. It comes as a 2 part powder. Basically part A is salts, Part B is glucose powder. I only mix up a small portion at a time. The whole sachet would make up 2 litres. A bit much! One sachet was $6-7 too.  I initially got it from a vet clinic, just over the counter. Doesn’t have to be your own vet. You can get it online and some fodder store may stock it also.

                                                                                        I did find a brand called Repalyte one time that is “natural flavour”.  Its a glucose based powder but then it says on back it contains aspartme. Why do they do that??!

                                                                                        One flavour Ive been okay about buying with rehydration formulas is raspberry, just because it’s thought to be useful in gastro intestinal upsets. For people and animals. Don’t know if myth or not…

                                                                                        There are some simple recipes people can do at home if they don’t have an electrolyte formula on hand but the sachets are easy and have the right balance of different salts and glucose. 

                                                                                        Sudocrem is usually in baby aisle of supermarket or chemist. Basically a zinc based nappy rash cream that’s really thick. Benpathen is another. Ive used on irritated hocks and also as barrier cream for an elderly rabbit I was looking after. We gave her a sani-shave and put cream on to prevent urine scald. Good for dry spots on skin or where theres been reaction at an injection site.

                                                                                        Rescue Remedy: My guys get the non pet formula if I use it. It’s just what I have around. I don’t know if it works or not but doesn’t hurt to try. I don’t think the alcohol content is an issue when it’s only a few drops. I put it on inside skin of the ears. 


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                                                                                          LFB8, to add to the link Bam shared (which is one I reference a lot)
                                                                                          I also like this one which is similar:http://www.mybunny.org/info/gi-stasis/

                                                                                          This is good too:
                                                                                          http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/sickbun.html

                                                                                          This is good to read at some point and make some notes on it: http://www.exoticpetvet.net/smanimal/rabfirstaid.html


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                                                                                            Another thing to put in the kit is numbers to several clinics that see rabbits (in case you cannot get in to see your regular vet) and some numbers for Out of Hours clinics. Sorry if that has already been mentioned. I got behind on this thread. 


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                                                                                              Thanks so much for all the extra info When looking into it it seemed that sudocrem and bepanthen were somewhat interchangeable for similar uses.

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