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Forum THE LOUNGE Cat Question – update

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    • jerseygirl
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        I’m not very experienced with cats, so I’d love if those of you that are can give some insight here. I’ve had a cat coming every night for the past 2 weeks and have taken to feeding it. Not sure if that is a mistake or not…
        It seemed in pretty good health when I first saw it, so I wasn’t too concerned. But now I t’s consistently eating 3/4 cup of dry food in one sitting. Would a cat that has a home do that? Will some just eat & eat if the food is on offer? Or does this cat sound like it’s relying on me?


      • BB & Tiny
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          Well I can’t specify as to quantity of food…but you could do what my neighbor ( whoever she is…) did to MY cat. She put a collar on him with her phone number, lol. So I called and she said ” Oh I was just checking to make sure he had a home !!! ” So if you are really in doubt you could try that

          My cat in his youth could probably eat 3/4 of a cup of food easily, particularly if it was tastier than what was at home.


        • LBJ10
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            Hmm, I suppose it depends on the cat. Some do become addicted to dry food and will eat it no matter what. Other cats are more picky when it comes to food and will only eat certain things when they are really hungry. Sorry, that probably isn’t much help.


          • Rhian
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              Cats can leave their homes and not really return for a regular meal for days. Depending on the size of the cat, I wouldn’t be surprised if they ate that much, though it would be a particularly large meal. Do you know if it’s a kitten at all? Most decent dry cat foods will recommend around 1/2 of a cup of dry food per day for the average sized cat, with that doubling or tripling for kittens up to around 10 months (or longer for larger breeds). My indoor, adult, spayed/neutered cats will usually eat 1/8 of a cup in one sitting for a meal. Some may eat a tiny bit more, but usually this is enough to fill them up and keep them satisfied until their next meal.

              I wouldn’t suggest regularly feeding a stray cat unless you’re prepared for feeding it and possibly taking care of it for the long term. It may end up relying on that source of food, or coming to your home looking for shelter during harsh weather or when it’s injured/sick. There are outdoor cats here that regularly come to my house to hide in my garage during the -40C(or colder) winters. I wish people would take care of their own pets so I didn’t have to worry about random cats freezing out there.


            • jerseygirl
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                Wow, thanks for the quick responses guys. : )

                BunLuv, the collar is a good idea! I knocked on door of house across the road yesterday but no one came to door.

                LBJ, yeah it might be addicted. In the first few days I offered a little tuna. It snubbed it the first night. So I just thought it must be someone’s cat on a nightly wander. But then it ate it the next night. So then I bought canned food. It wasn’t super keen but did eat some. So then I bought dry food and it really liked it. I was in two minds about feeding it… Thinking – what if it needs it v’s what if it’s someone’s pet and I’m feeding it inappropriate food. I get totally suckered in by the animal though.

                Rhian, it’s definitely an adult. I thought about letting in in overnight and taking to vet to see if microchipped. But again, what if it’s just on nightly prowl and I kidnap someone’s pet, you know?

                I think I may try the collar thing. It does disappear to somewhere during the day.
                I considered about doing a leaflet drop on my street but the collar trick seems more direct.

                I feel like it probably does have a home but was confused as to why it’s eating so much.

                Thanks again.


              • jerseygirl
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                  In a nutshell, I’ve prettyyvh trained this cat to keep coming back haven’t I?!

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                • BB & Tiny
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                    Yes, worked very well. Unfortunately I lost that collar and have considered putting one on so she will call. She continues to let him in despite knowing he has a home. My cat is on a strict veterinary diet and thyroid medication, which she is unaware of..

                    He has missed two doses this week because he didn’t come home at night !

                    I hope you find out if the kitty has a home. If not he seems to have found one with you, lol.


                  • BB & Tiny
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                      Oh, that looks like a very young kitty, possibly a year ?


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                        The last time i fed an animal that came to the back door I ended up with BB.


                      • Hazel
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                          In regards to the food intake, considering he is an outdoor cat, he probably has internal parasites (unless of course the owner treats him regularly). That could cause him to eat excessively.

                          If you do decide to put a collar on him, make sure it’s a break-away collar.

                          I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you taking it to the vet to get it checked out and scanned for a chip, if you’re considering keeping it. Yes, it might be someone’s pet, but then again it might not be. I know people will disagree with me on this, but personally, I wouldn’t feel bad about taking in an animal that’s running wild in the neighborhood if it seems to need help, even if it might be someone’s pet. If they are willing to take the risk of it potentially getting run over, lost or killed by something/someone, they’re probably not too attached to it.

                          I don’t mean to bash anyone who lets their cat go outside, I just don’t believe it’s worth the risk, that’s all. Every cat owner has to make that decision for themselves, depending on their cat and weather or not the area they live in is “safe”. I know there are cats that go nuts if they don’t get to go outside.

                          jersey, the kitty sure is cute! I agree with BunLuv, it looks young.


                        • BB & Tiny
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                            I consider my kitty indoor/outdoor

                            I had an indoor kitty who was terrified of the outdoors and she had no desire to be outside unless I was out in the garden, then she’d come out in the sunshine.

                            I am quite attached to my kitty, but as you mentioned he would drive us insane if he was not let out. So for his sake we allow him his freedom even though I do worry when he seems to be gone for extended periods. Had I not known that person lets him in I’d be out searching if he wasn’t home by bedtime.

                            I guess it comes down to weighing the cats happiness over fears of his safety and just hope he will be safe. We are going on 15 years and luckily beyond some cat fights he has survived. ( knocking on the cheap wood end table, again. )


                          • Hazel
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                              Our cat doesn’t want to go outside either, but we’ve had her since she was 3 months old so she grew up that way. My brother has a cat that’s deaf, he lets it go outside and I think it’s very dangerous. But the cat seems to really go crazy if he’s locked up indoors for too long. So it just depends on the circumstances I guess. Several of our neighbors feed the local stray cats and they all seem to love using our yard as a litter box, which drives me nuts… I’m not the one feeding them but I still get to deal with the poop. So yeah, I’m very pro indoor cats, for several reasons. But what works for one person/cat, doesn’t necessarily work for another.

                              I’m glad your kitty is staying safe, BunLuv. 15 years, wow!


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                                Posted By Hazel on 11/11/2015 9:26 AM

                                If you do decide to put a collar on him, make sure it’s a break-away collar.

                                I don’t think there’s anything wrong with you taking it to the vet to get it checked out and scanned for a chip, if you’re considering keeping it. Yes, it might be someone’s pet, but then again it might not be. I know people will disagree with me on this, but personally, I wouldn’t feel bad about taking in an animal that’s running wild in the neighborhood if it seems to need help, even if it might be someone’s pet. If they are willing to take the risk of it potentially getting run over, lost or killed by something/someone, they’re probably not too attached to it.

                                I don’t mean to bash anyone who lets their cat go outside, I just don’t believe it’s worth the risk, that’s all.

                                I agree with pretty much all of this. I have actually taken cats that were around my home to the vet to look for a microchip, and depending on the health of the animal and my own circumstances, have just ended up keeping them. A few years back I found a young black male in the bushes, he had internal parasites and a horrifying ear mite infestation that lead to huge ear infections and some weird skin issues. Surprise, he didn’t have a microchip or a tattoo of any kind. He’s now probably taken over the entirety of my couch and won’t be moving for the rest of the day. He has a hard life of waiting for me to prepare his raw food (because he can’t eat normal cat food, that makes his fur fall out, and the faintest whiff of dry food makes it so he can’t pee!) and taking over the many cat trees in the house.

                                I know there will be those out there that disagree with me, but if the cat is outside my house often enough I’m just going to assume it’s a stray and act accordingly. There’s no way something like a dog would be acceptable to run rampant around the streets, I have no idea why people think it’s okay for cats. I just don’t think there’s any benefit to letting your cat outside unsupervised, my indoor cats couldn’t possibly be happier with their lives with supervised time outside with me and all of them came from a situation where they were originally outdoor cats.


                              • Vienna Blue in France
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                                  Tha kitty looks gorgeous and certainly doesn’t look like any ‘homeless strays’ that I’ve seen !
                                  He looks nice and chunky !!
                                  I believe there are cats who will eat and eat and go to different houses to do it.
                                  My cat goes next door for a tummy rub, cuddle and probably some nitbits – I’ve no idea if she goes anywhere else, but I certainly wouldn’t expect her to get taken in by anyone because she was wandering around.
                                  This of course not the case if a cat comes to your back door, is obviously malnourished or injured or doesn’t move from that place.
                                  I had a pregnant “stray”cat give birth in my house a few years ago and then 2 weeks later went off with them all (one by one in her mouth) as her owners came back from holiday (I found out later !!) !!!!

                                  I believe cats and dogs are totally different creatures. Most cats are very independant and want to go explore. (or explore & play in the home with toys and suchlike)
                                  Dogs are crazily loyal about just being amongst their family (unless they’re a male and can smell a nice female somewhere in a fifty mile radius !! LOL)
                                  A dog can be just as happy with a homeless person roaming the streets – that is what their genes tell them to do – as happily snuggled up by a fire in a one room flat or in a mansion – he couldn’t care less as long as he has exercise, food and love.

                                  Err, yes Jerseygirl, LOL, you have trained him to come back to you… LOL


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                                    Posted By Rhian on 11/11/2015 12:18 PM

                                    There’s no way something like a dog would be acceptable to run rampant around the streets, I have no idea why people think it’s okay for cats.

                                    Agree 100%.


                                  • jerseygirl
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                                      Not sure if this gives better indication of its size. The planter is 38cm high (15″).

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                                    • jerseygirl
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                                        Behaviour wise, it’s pretty friendly. Loves head scratches, will sprawl out nearby and snooze. Doesn’t like being held but if I’m sitting, I can pick it up and put it on my lap & it will lie there purring away.

                                        ETA: it also seems to be out all night. I often don’t sleep overnight so I’ve heard it come repeatedly to the door into the early hours. I’ve also seen it sleeping on top of a straw bale in my carport (at night).


                                      • BB & Tiny
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                                          Well there are far more stringent laws and consequences for loose dogs such as licenses and impound fees. Dogs also bite people so clearly not viable for them to be running loose. My kitty is the Ambassador of the townhouse complex and greets everyone on their way in. Yes i worry but refuse to lock him up, he loves outside If I go to hell for it, well it’s worth it to see him happy.

                                          You could take it in and if the owner actually cares, they will look for it. If not they don’t deserve to have the cat in the first place. I didn’t guess his age by size, it was his face. Just looks like a young cat to me.

                                          BB ended up in my yard, subsequently my house I shut him in the house and went to the door of the family he used to live with and told them he was at my house, no one came…


                                        • MoxieMeadows
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                                            Oh my goodness that kitty is so cute.


                                          • Rhian
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                                              I want to say that the cat looks young (like 10-14 month range?) because of how thin it looks to me in those pictures, but that could just be weird genetics or because of inadequate diet. It’s really hard to tell the ages of cats, even vets can get it wrong so all you’ll ever get are estimates(unless it’s super young and still has some baby teeth).

                                              My most recent cat was adopted out to me with an estimated age of 2-3 years from the nearby humane society, I figured she was just a small, underfed cat. Six months later she had transformed into a totally different looking cat, it was quite crazy! I’m guessing she was closer to 8-10 months when I got her, and because of her terrible diet, the stress from having kittens and her feline herpes her breathing issues were probably exacerbated and led to more plaque growth on her teeth (which is one of the ways to tell how old a cat is, obviously not foolproof!).

                                              These last few posts have made me realize I really know how to pick cats. Thankfully they’re all manageable problems!


                                            • jerseygirl
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                                                I never would have guessed the age right. I’m pretty clueless about cats.
                                                I do have this overhead body shot if that helps determine age or condition. What do you all think?

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                                              • MimzMum
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                                                  That’s a lovely moggy you’ve got there, Jerz. You realize he’s probably yours now?

                                                  Actually, I would get him checked over, not just for a chip, but in general. That way if anyone does come forward, there’s evidence that he was healthy when he came to you.

                                                  One thing kind of pinged my radar only because it’s a fresh issue with me. Now that I’m living with a cat with CKD, I have to say that dry food isn’t necessarily good for them. Especially if he’s a boy, then you risk him developing urinary tract problems over time (provided he’s staying.) I know it’s a convenient and less messy way to feed a cat (I despise having to keep picking up the old food and clearing the mess away, as Griff tends to travel with a mouthful and eat it ALL over the countertop) but with all I’ve read about dry cat food and how it hurts their insides, it really isn’t worth the risk. I echo the sentiments that he may have special dietary needs you won’t have knowledge of, so just a heads up.

                                                  A wandering cat is a sad thing. We had a ‘neighborhood cat’ come into our yard about 8 years ago and she hasn’t left yet. We call her “Hello Kitty” because that’s what I said to her the first time I saw her saunter onto our property like she owned it. Her name really should have been Nutcase (like the cat from Cristomanci Chronicles) because she is one. Very independent, semi-feral as her owners had basically left her to her own devices, when she was attacked by one of their other cats, and kept her in a barn. She may think she’s a dog, because she loves Ebon but can’t stand the other two cats. She has no sense of personal space and will attack your ankles if they come too close and attention for her is not forthcoming. But for all her foibles, she is loved and warm and fed and I think that is the best thing you can do for a homeless kitty.

                                                  If this cat has an owner out there and you can find him/her, great…but if not…well, I think you just may have gotten yourself a new house-guest. I couldn’t begin to guess his age from the photos, but he’s a looker! My Griff is about 14 years old now and has been thin as a rail all his life, so his weight doesn’t enter into how old he is, but your vet may be able to take a guess if he/she gets a look at his teeth. That’s the only way I know of to determine this in a stray cat.

                                                  Whatcha gonna name him? xx


                                                • BB & Tiny
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                                                    My kitty has had both types of urinary crystals and surgery for it once. He does however still eat dry food, but it is called Medical or now preventitive ? They keep changing the name. Never had an issue since, but yes most commercial dry foods are probably sub par and a detriment to urinary tract issues.

                                                    Yes what will you be naming your new kitty ?


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                                                      Whatcha gonna name him? xx

                                                      Yes what will you be naming your new kitty ?

                                                      Denial. I’m naming it DENIAL.

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                                                      Nope.

                                                      see the collar? I put it on thurs night, so it went somewhere FriDAY and I haven’t had anyone contact me. I’m giving it until end of weekend then it’s Operating CatNap and I’ll get it vet checked.

                                                      Btw, a stray would lie on my lap like this?! It doesn’t make sense. I’m dying to know it’s story.


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                                                        Well he might not always have been a stray, he could have gotten lost/dumped. But I like the collar idea. =)
                                                        We once rescued a cat from the shelter, a beautiful calico named Maggie May. She would go INSANE if we didn’t let her out, she would wait by the door and dart out, scratch at the door/windows ect. so there wasn’t much to do. Especially since this was several years ago and my sister was pretty little and ended up letting her out a lot. BUT ANYWAY, back to the story. She would disappear for several days at a time (Much to our worry). One time she was gone for 7 months (this was the last time she came back) but she still came back (although she was not skinny like you’d think a cat would be after 7 months!). Sadly once she escaped again we never saw her again and she never showed up at the shelter. I know she had had a collar at one point but I think she lost it while she was gone. We were pretty sure she had a second home, although it was still pretty upsetting because there was always this “doubt”. =/

                                                        But anywho, on a more cheerful note, I think he’s super cute and Denial is a good choice. And if anybody asks about why his name is Denial (if you don’t find his home) you can tell them he was a stray.


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                                                          I hate to be a party pooper, but you could contact the local shelters to state you are well,” fostering ” the kitty in case anyone calls about it. Who knows how far that cat has traveled and may be far from home. Or someone could have moved it from its natural neighborhood ?


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                                                            If you are serious about finding the cat’s owners (if there is one) I would call/stop by your local vets and ask if you could leave a description and your number with them if anyone happens to be looking. Maybe put up an ad with whatever classified sites are used in your area and contact any shelters you think may be helpful. Personally I’d keep pictures out of it and ask for some kind of special feature that’s on the cat as proof just because I’m kind of paranoid about people claiming anything that’s free, but that’s just me.

                                                            I know someone else mentioned not feeding dry cat food, which is pretty good advice if you end up keeping the cat, but for a random stray I wouldn’t worry about it. The biggest worry about dry food is the lack of moisture, which is a bigger deal for indoor-only cats that aren’t supplementing their diet with whatever random critters they end up catching. Many people with healthy cats that haven’t showed any signs of urinary issues will feed high quality grain-free dry foods with often some cheaper grain-free canned meals mixed in (think Fancy Feast) in order to make it more affordable. Probably the most important thing about diet, however, is that cats are picky animals. You can have intentions to feed them the greatest diet known to man, and they will likely not even sniff at it. Just feed them what they will eat and try your best to find a diet that works for everyone. If that’s all dry food, then that’s what it is. Just try to avoid giving too many fishy flavours too often, I typically try to limit them to once or twice a week.

                                                            (Personally, I feed my cats Nature’s Variety Instinct chicken flavour dry food with a ton of different canned brands (Merrick, Fancy Feast, Nutro, Nature’s Variety, Weruva, Natural Balance, Performatrin Ultra, Tiki cat and some I’m probably forgetting) and some raw if they like it (mostly just Primal).)


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                                                              Update: So I found an ear tattoo last night and I let him inside for the night. No microchip found at vet today. So all I know is it’s a desexed male around 2 yrs of age. Good body condition.

                                                              I’m going to post a notice (without pic) on some lost & found pages and do a pamphlet drop in my area.


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                                                                What a cute little guy. Just by a pic, he looks a bit thin to me but my I’m used to pudgy spoiled house cats, I guess, so maybe not.

                                                                We get stray/lost kitties turn up at our house quite often because my neighbour is a crazy bird feeder lady. So cats are sort of drawn to this area. Of course, I always feed them and do my best to find out if they belong to anyone. Usually they move on after a couple of days. This summer, there was a young guy that was staying around for a couple of weeks. He was super friendly, Everly just loved him. He obviously belonged to someone at one time since he was so loving but no one claimed him despite my efforts. I contacted a local cat rescue and they came and got him. Now he’s neutered and up for adoption.

                                                                Hope your kitty has a happy ending (like moving in with you )


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                                                                  That’s great LPT. One less intact cat off the streets is good!


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                                                                    Jerseygirl— If it was me I wouldn’t go into too much detail, because (depending where u live) somebody could claim him for free just because they think he’s cute, or so he could be bait. :^[

                                                                    I would just say something like “Friendly neutered male cat found on somewhere street. Please call if you are missing a cat!”

                                                                    Or something like that, but that’s just me.


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                                                                      Definitely MxM. I’m on same page with you there.


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                                                                        They say moving (i suppose rehoming as well) is the best time to retrain your outdoor cat to be an indoor cat. So if no owner turns up and you want him inside, this is a good time to decide I personally prefer indoor only cats, but one of my family’s cats is outdoor/indoor. It wasn’t so much a choice as a hard-fought war that he won (many cat owner’s have served time on the feline battlefield, and will know what this is like).

                                                                        I used to live in a big city where there were so, so many stray cats, so hearing the idea of someone pretending it’s their cat is so foreign to me- I don’t think you could pay anyone there to take one! It’s a little unusual for a fixed cat to be a stray, but I’ve seen it happen with people who move and decide to leave the pet behind. I even found a domestic, and very friendly, lop rabbit outside once. You never know with strays!

                                                                        As for food, my cats prefer wet food over dry. They act like it’s this amazing gift from the heavens, second only to kitty treats or tuna.

                                                                        Hopefully he has a happy ending. He is quite handsome Have you heard anything back?


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                                                                          Any update?


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                                                                            Enjoys petting? It sounds like someone’s pet. Strays don’t particularly like to be touched. I’m sure there are exceptions to the rule though. What a pretty cat. I use to let ,y cat out the yard when she asked me to. Tat didnt’ last long. After seeing enough road kills, and reading stories like this, I stopped letting my cat out the front yard. The yard is fenced, and if she wanted to, she could very easily hop the fence. She doesn’t. She enjoys being outdoors, but I don’t let her out the front yard. I would hope that with a collar, someone calls you about the cat. Otherwise – she is soooo pretttttyyyyy!


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                                                                              Cats really don’t have owners, on his way round through the jungle (The neighbours rose bushes to us.) he makes quite a few stops at a few peoples houses for snacks on the way, then stops at Jerseygirls for a bowl of food, have you checked the old people in your area to see if they have lost him? Maybe it is someones and they haven’t seen the advert and can’t go out because they are old or disabled, you could try following him when he goes out of your garden, see which house he goes to.


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                                                                                He could be an indoor/outdoor cat. If he’s being fed with you, he might not feel like going back “home” so hasn’t been back. My mom keeps indoor/outdoors (doggy door) and they only really come back when they get hungry. Without hunger as a reason, they will disappear for weeks at a time (or never come home, for some of them… one I saw in her neighbor’s yard the other day, so he’s found a new home I guess). Drop info at the shelters/vets offices just in case. As for if he could be a stray… my mom adopted a cat from the humane society that was labeled “feral”. That cat sleeps in her bed, wants in peoples laps and is happy only if he’s getting attention. lol “Feral” doesn’t fit him. But, he was homeless.

                                                                                Personally, I would only keep a kitty if I could keep it indoors. Three of my mom’s indoor/outdoors have gone missing, she has no clue what happened to them. Another one ended up with herpes and feline leukemia (even if you plan to keep a kitty vaccinated, it’s hard to schedule up-to-date shots when they can disappear for a month or more while roaming), which means almost constant upper respiratory infections. Some of them come in with large wounds on their bodies from where other cats, or dogs, have gotten to them while they were out. Not to mention that kitties kill local wildlife, or harass / endanger neighbor’s animals and gardens. People shooting them / poisoning them is a risk as well, since cats become a nuisance.

                                                                                Good luck with the new kitty.

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