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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Stasis concerns

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    • BunnyLady1989
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        Hey everyone! It’s been along time since I’ve been on here, but I knew it was time to get back in. So I took Lulu to the vet tonight because I had a feeling she was starting to get stasis. I gave her her normal pellets last night where she started eating them normally before bed. I woke up this morning however to find that there was about half the amount left and her hay wasn’t eaten like normal. Her litter box contained very little poop, but it looked normal and there was only two small spots where she had peed. I gave her her normal salad, which she refused, and tried giving a craison and apple, which she also refused.  But she was drinking water, and I could tell she would try to go potty but nothing would come out. So when I came home to find everything untouched I knew it was time to go to the vet.

        The x-ray showed that her stomach was pretty full so her food wasn’t getting past there. Luckily there were hardly any gas pockets and they sent us home with several things. I gave her the first dose of everything tonight, which she took pretty easily, except for the critical care. She has never had that before and i had trouble administering it to her. My question for that is, is there a more effective way to give it and is it possible that she can eat it freely?  We’ve never gone thru stasis before and I have never experienced it, so any advice is greatly appreciated!


      • JackRabbit
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          I’ve never tried it, but some people on here suggest mixing the CC with a tiny bit of apple juice or applesauce (unsweetened) or plain canned pumpkin (*not* pie filling).


        • JackRabbit
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            Hydration is super important, especially since there is food in her stomach so that the food in her gut stays moist and can pass.

            If she’ll eat the CC mixture on her own, that would be great, otherwise the syringe.


          • JackRabbit
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              {{{{{Lulu}}}}}


            • BunnyLady1989
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                Thanks JR!! She has been pretty good with drinking water…everytime I attempt to get her to give her some CC or anything she runs to the water and drinks some. lol Its like she would think, ‘See I’m fine I’m hydrating, so leave me alone”.


              • Megabunny
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                  Oh, Lulu. I’m so sorry to hear about this. I’ve got no experience with this but from what I’ve heard you may need to give her tummy rubs and if you feel a crackly gassy area, rub it extra. Get up during the night as much as you can and keep bugging her to eat. I know it’s late now, but if things are still going OK tomorrow, you may want to get one of those baby spoons w/ the plastic coating. Some people find rabbits prefer to have that shoved in their mouths instead of battling with a syringe, either right between their front teeth or apparently there is an empty space on the side. Again, I’m just brainstorming what I’ve read in the past. Not trying to sound like the end-all be-all to your questions.Canned pumpkin is GREAT although with her being sick she may not be eager for that or anything else, but keep trying. It’s full of fibre and you can give her a lot. You can use a celery stick, too, to shove food in her mouth. Once she gets the flavor of the pumpkin she may eat. Keep shoving food in her face. She may eat just out of annoyance. But whatever works…and whatever she will eat…throughout the night and tomorrow and keep going until she is better. A problem some people get into is they leave their buns at the vet’s, which is good they can get fluids, but they can’t get the round-the-clock care at a vet. They need to constantly be fed, tummy rubs, let her run around and exercise and get things moving.
                  Here is what my friend told me and I kept it to pass on to others. She’s told me a lot more, but this is what I have verbatum: . “I dip the spoon in the pumpkin or critical care and stick it right in front of their mouth, pushing through their teeth. That forces them to bite down on it (often the first time out of irritability) but they adapt much quicker to eating from the spoon and I don’t have to worry about choking them with a syringe. They are more comfortable because they are in control of how much they are eating in one bite. Some dribbles down their chin but I can use that spoon to scrape it right back into their mouth, just like a baby. I hold them on their back, on my knees with their head up. I usually bounce them with my knees (again just like a baby) because it makes them more alert and paying attention to eating their meal. I think the movement of biting and chewing is also better for their peristalsis and natural processing.
                  I have to work tomorrow, so if you have more questions, I hope others will respond to your post first. Try not to get worked up about what is healthier than another to get her to eat. If she wants extra apples or something beyond what you’re used to giving her, go for it. I’ve heard they love blueberry baby food. I’ll be watching. Hope Lulu improves soon for you. They can turn on a dime with this or they can sail through with flying colors. I hope Lulu is one of the lucky ones.


                • BunnyLady1989
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                    I actually thought about the spoon technique, figuring it may be easier. I will have to try it now though. Does the CC in a sense replace the normal diet until she starts getting better? She gets unlimited hay. I guess I’m worried about also over feeding with it? This is all so new to me and I hoped and prayed that we wouldn’t have to go thru this


                  • JackRabbit
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                      Give her however much CC the vet said to give, but you can still offer pellets, veggies, and definitely keep fresh hay out for her. Follow the vet’s instructions as to how much and how often on the CC. Hopefully you’ll reach a point where she’s eating on her own. Fingers crossed she keeps drinking on her own too!

                      Megabunny is right — try to get her moving. Exercise helps get the gut moving. I tend to lay down with my bunnies when they’re out for play time, but they will follow me around if I’m up — I’ve been known to walk back and forth in the hallway so they’ll follow me just to get them moving. If Lulu isxa follower, just try walking!


                    • BunnyLady1989
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                        Quick update, as I just went to check on her. She was none too pleased I woke her up, but she.was more active and accepted her tummy rubs along with head and ear rubs and even tooth purred and gave kisses. Her litter box had another tiny pee spot and just a few poops but they are normal poops, just slightly on the small side. I did notice one that had a small mucus-like glob on it, which from what I read can be normal? I was over the moon though when she went to her hay and ate a piece by herself! My poor baby keeps trying to poop. She will sit in that litter box and try, she only goes in there just to do her business, so I just hold my breath and watch her try and poop. I will update in a few hours after I give meds. Thanks for the advice again and prayers!


                      • Bam
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                          CC is full nourishment in case you can’t get them to eat anything else, CC has everything they need. You can mix it with sth yummy though since it doesn’t seem particularly yummy (based on how my bunny reacts to it). But it’s excellent that she tries to eat a little hay on her own.

                          Tummy rubs is what’s worked for my bunnies. Mucus on poop or a splurt of loose poop is all normal after sth like this.

                          I also give simethicone. It may not have any effect but since it is a lubricant it may. It’s supposed safe (Medirabbit).

                          I hope she gets well soon. It’s good if she moves aout some, it helps get the intestines moving.


                        • JackRabbit
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                            I know we’ve recently read that there’s no evidence that simethicone helps in gi stasis, but like bam said, it doesn’t hurt. It acts as a lubricant and also causes small gas bubbles to combine into larger ones that are easier to pass (when gas is present). Any time Moshi lightens up on food, hay, etc. or doesn’t seem himself, I give him .5 cc’s of simethicone. Usually one or two doses and he’s a happy boy. So placebo or not, I’m sold.


                          • BunnyLady1989
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                              This morning she had some poops in the litter box and even out of the box, but of course at this point I don’t care where they land! Have her meds this morning and she did well, of course when it sme to the cc that was a different story. I think it is just one of those things that will be a trial and error on how to administer. But she is getting fiesty again, which is her normal, and nibbling hay and she even nibbled some kale! The vet did have me get some simethicone, which she really doesn’t like but I am glad I got it. Atleast it makes me feel better knowing that she has everything that can help her.


                            • MoxieMeadows
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                                (((((LuLu)))))!!!


                              • JackRabbit
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                                  If Moshi smells simethicone in a syringe or even on my finger, he’ll run and hide. If I put drops of it on bites of green leaf lettuce and hand feed him he gobbles it right up. You could try putting drops on bites of kale and see if she’ll take it. Something about hand feeding bites of anything makes even normal food special!


                                • LBJ10
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                                    Sounds like she is doing better. If she is nibbling at hay and such, I would hold off on the CC for a bit. She might eat on her own if she isn’t being stuffed with CC first.


                                  • BunnyLady1989
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                                      That’s what I was thinking too LBJ. I’m worried about overloading her with the CC, since her tummy was pretty full. But it’s so hard to give it to her so really I think she is getting what she needs. Earlier she was even playing with her carrot toss toy. She is liking her massages but would rather her ears and head rubbed. Still worried though about her. She is definitely more active!


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                                        So just now I’m giving her tummy rubs. Before I administered meds I checked her bottom and it was pretty poopy. So got that cleaned up and gave her the meds and CC. She hasn’t had any hay since that, but I will keep trying, since it’s only been a few minutes since I brought her back to her pen.


                                      • BunnyLady1989
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                                          It’s 4 am. and I just checked on her. There were some poops in her box, small and wet, and she drank some water and are some hay. She ran around the room on her own and even stomped her foot. I massaged her for a good amount of time, a few different times and I heard some gurgling sounds as I was doing it. Are these good signs? I’m so terrified that she will take a turn…


                                        • Bam
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                                            One time when I massaged Bam’s tummy there were a lot of loud gurgling. Then there was a splotch of loose poop. Then he recovered. So I took the gurgling to mean peristalsis (movement of intestines) and that it was sth good. Maybe gurgling could mean gas, so perhaps you should give some simethicone.

                                            My bunnies HATE simethicone.


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                                              Yeah she hates it too. But I’ve been still giving it to her. She seemed to be doing okay today. She are some hay, kale, and carrot on her own and drank. Her poops were even looking better. How they should look but just smaller. Then I noticed she even got some of her cecals! I’m still having such a hard time with giving her the critical care….she won’t willingly touch it, the spoon option is out since she hated that, so the suringe is what works. It just take forever to give and most of the time I feel like half of it just ends up on everything else. Can I try mixing it with applesauce? Again I’m just worried about overloading her tummy.


                                            • LongEaredLions
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                                                You could put a little tiny bit of applesauce or some baby food in it to flavour it, but not too much as you don’t want to overload her like you said.
                                                ((((Vibes))))


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                                                  Thanks for all the advice guys! Lulu is doing much better! She is still getting all her meds but the critical care is no longer a huge priority, which is great since it was so difficult to administer to her. She is eating, drinking, and pooping much better. I have been monitoring her non stop but it seems she gets better everyday. It is such a relief but I know we aren’t out of the woods yet!


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                                                    Glad to hear it!

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