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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Corner of eye widening with age?

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    • mocha200
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        Here I go again… More questions about Mocha’s eye. Mocha went to the vet on June 10th and had his eye looked at as I thought it may have been a cornea ulceration from overgrown teeth. The vet said it looked like his eye had been scraped but had healed. She did xrays and filled down his teeth as there was slight spurs. His eyes are STILL watering though! I also sometimes see little brown chunks around his eyes too. His eye is also looking strange. Here is a picture comparing his eye from today (left) and what it looked like a couple years ago (right).

        I don’t know if you can see the difference but it looks like the V in his eye has gotten bigger. It also looks like his third eyelid or something is coming further onto his eye. Let me know if you guys know what I mean. Any suggestions on what to do/what it could be would be great. I just took him to the vet so I’d rather not go there as its a 4 hour round trip to the nearest exotic vet.


      • mocha200
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          I also noticed the fur under his nose is wet too.


        • mocha200
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            Forgot to add a question. Do you think this could be from age? He is 5 now so maybe somehow the corner of his eye is widening as he gets older? Sounds kinda weird to me but really the only think I can think of.


          • Kokaneeandkahlua
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              Hmmm Rupert had his teeth done last year because of a runny eye; it didn’t go away immediately. What I was told was as the teeth grow long, so do the roots. That’s the cause of the runny eye, the long roots put pressure on other nerves and tissues around the face. The roots should shrink though after the teeth are filed, and then the eye will become less runny. The vet said if teeth are very bad they may need more than one trim -of course rabbits who need a trim will likely need regular trims later anyways as their teeth are not lining up-very bad teeth will require a series of trims. Doesn’t sound like that’s your case so I’m guessing in a few weeks you may see lessening as his roots go back to a normal size.

              In the meantime you could wipe with a clean cool wet cloth and then keep an eye on it; as the eyelids and lack of colored discharge don;t indicate an eye infection from your picture, and your vet didn’t see infection, its likely the eye will stop running or stop running as much; but you can keep watch in case an infection is brewing.


            • mocha200
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                His teeth weren’t bad at all. The vet said there was “slight” spurs but they went ahead and filled them as he was already put under.

                Lulu cleans his eyes for me so she gets any goop or liquid that comes out.

                I’m sorta wondering why the V part of his eye has gotten larger… It’s weird how the skin looks like it’s covering part of his eyes…


              • jerseygirl
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                  Were the X-rays for dental?

                  I went back to your thread about the ulcer as I hadn’t seen that. You did well to get it photographed!
                  It looks like what a Maple had and hers was corneal ulcer. Did Mochas clear up?
                  Maples developed while she had head tilt. It was her upward facing eye at the time and I don’t think she was blinking as much on that side.

                  I don’t think they’d get cornea ulcers from anything related to teeth. (I could he wrong!). Mainly, it’s abscess behind the eye (retrobulbar) that can be linked to overgrown molar roots.

                  Is what you’re seeing now with the corner happening in same eye that had ulcer and has been goopy? Or in both? And have both been watery?

                  A couple little things for you to check out with him:
                  -watch his blinking. They don’t blink often but are you seeing same amount of movement in both eyes?
                  -are his eyelashes curving out from the eye? Not turning inward where they might irritate the eyeball.
                  -do you see the third eyelid move across the eye more when he puts his head down? Like when he goes to eat.
                  -is he breathing faster more often? (Just wondering about it being wet under the nose).

                  ETA: apologies for all my questions!


                • mocha200
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                    Sorry. :p No x-Rays last time. They put him under to check his teeth.

                    His eyes were REALLY wet the other day. I took a picture of it but can’t upload it from my phone.

                    Haven’t noticed any different eye movement.

                    No third eyelid either.

                    He has been breathing heavier but I was just thinking it was because summer is here and he struggles with heat.


                  • jerseygirl
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                      No third eyelid either.

                      do you mean no 3rd eyelid showing in other eye? Or no change in it when he put head downward?


                    • mocha200
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                        I don’t ever see his 3rd eyelids showing


                      • jerseygirl
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                          Oh ok. Oops.
                          I thought that was what was in the corner. I’m kind of confused now.

                          I meant to mention before, with aging buns, the muscles & tissues in the face can alter so that can make the eye appear different also. I vaguely recall someone talking about that on bb one time.


                        • mocha200
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                            Oh yes! I was wondering if it was his third eyelid but I wasn’t sure. Does it look like it to you? I am sorry I am all over the place! Haha! Long day! :p


                          • jerseygirl
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                              I don’t know! When you look at images of their third eyelid, it looks more translucent. But it definitely comes out from that part of the eye.

                              The reason I was asking about third eyelid is that I know of a couple reasons why that can begin to protrude more. Both to do with pressure. Either pressure coming from behind the eye (say if there was an abscess there) or pressure in the chest region affecting blood flow.

                              With his running eyes, that does sound like it could be due to his molar roots if he’s had spurs form before.


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                                Well he was JUST at the vet a month ago and I told her all these symptoms. She said his eye looks fine and that it does have a healed scrape that may have happened awhile back when his eyes first started running. She didn’t seem that conserved about it.

                                I guess what I’m trying to decide is if this is something I should be concerned about. I’ve heard of other lops just having eye problems from the squished faces they have. I would like to not go to the vet if I don’t have to since it’s a 5 hour round trip to the closest rabbit savvy vet.


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                                  That is pretty crazy. Would there be a knowlegeable vet closer but just hasn’t been listed with HRS? Or have you already looked into that?

                                  I did just see that 3rd eyelid has a dark edge so that probably easiest way to tell. So if it is just the corner tissue of his eye, have to wonder if its just the other tissues in his face changing.
                                  Rumball (also a lop) gets a sort of sagging lower lid.

                                  If your vet felt he’s all good then there’s probably no reason to worry. Could you email them the photo to ask? For peace of mind?


                                • mocha200
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                                    I’ve looked. Called many places too! They say they see rabbits but when I mentioned about Mocha’s eye problem they said that is to complicated for them. I’ve been to the vet right in our town who “says” she sees rabbits but when we first got xrays about mochas teeth and saw they were a bit long she just told me “try to make him eat more sticks” I’m like… Yeah right! Like that’s going to help his molars! Haha! She would also say I don’t know if I asked her a question. There used to be an exotic vet in a town next to me but she left.

                                    I’ll see if I can email it to them. Maybe I will call and ask to talk to the vet directly also

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