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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Rapid Weight Loss (Diet or Ill?) UPDATE: POSSIBLE COCCIDIA

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    • tanlover14
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        When we adopted Tucker from the Humane Society three weeks ago he weighed 3.4lbs.  Today, I picked him up to administer some eye drops and realized how skinny it felt like he was.  I became a little freaked out since his spine seems to be protruding and weighed him on my digital kitchen scale.  It says 2.7lbs.  

        I called the vet immediately because I’m so worried.  She thought maybe he’s lost weight due to being on a better diet now (he refused pellets when we first adopted him and we thought maybe he was used to do a bad pellet w/ all the additional things).  But I’m extremely concerned because his spine feels so prominent.   I just don’t see how a rabbit can lose 15% of their weight in 3 weeks at the min. and have it be okay?  

        What do you all think?  I told her I was too concerned to not get him looked at.  My vet is going to call me back with a time that she can squeeze him into since she is in surgeries all day. 

        I am so worried.


      • longhairmike
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          a better diet would only be noticeable on a FAT bunny getting down to normal weight.

          what do his poops look like? check them carefully for worms, then majorly wash your hands.
          is he eating hay? eating at all? you need to go out to the pet store to get some critical care until you can get him into the vet.
          if it’s a tooth issue he will have to be on soft food until it’s fixed.


        • Sarita
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            I agree with Mike. It might be hard to monitor what he is eating too with  6  other rabbits in the mix – makes me wonder if he is getting his share….


          • JackRabbit
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              I know you said you put him on your digital scale, but it’s possible that he hasn’t lost quite so much — two different scales.

              I’m with the maybe he’s not getting his share team. If he seems to be eating ok (no difficulties chewing) then you could bring him out by himself and offer pellets to get more calories in him.

              If it turns out that he’s not getting his share, maybe you could separate their food into 2 or 3 trays and lead him to one of the less “hungry” groups to eat.

              I know with my bonded pair, as soon as I leave the room, Moshi starts eating out of Marlee’s bowl . . . I may have to separate my two!


            • tanlover14
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                I have been monitoring how much they allow him to eat pretty well. He eats more than everyone else. He continues to eat while they all walk away and flop. I actually have been feeding them a little bit extra on pellets just in case. But I’ve been worried about that when I added (Simba was being a tad food aggressive and has continued to be) so I split the pellets and veggies into two piles and have been watching them to ensure he’s eating as well.

                I was thinking the same thing – two different scales but even when Lacey was weighed at the Humane Society she was 3.4 and when I brought her home and weighed her (because I thought she lost a little bit) she was 3.1. So I feel like he has to have lost something. Idk how much weight is a lot of weight to lose in 3 weeks compared to what would be normal. He’s never been overweight (for a Holland Lop size). I mean, he has the chubby look like the Hollands seem to have but nothing overweight.

                I’m so worried. I feel like I’ve been noticing so many things off. He currently has an eye infection. Idk if one of the others got him while bonding or what it is (I couldn’t find an actual scratch or bite mark) but I noticed on Saturday his eye was all red and had white discharge. I also noticed that he drinks SO much water. And urinates so much. I’ve never seen a bun do this before and I mentioned it to my vet before but she said sometimes that can happen when stressed and to see what happens at his check-up at the end of July and see if he was still drinking and urinating so much. The more things I notice, the more worried I become.

                I already have CC, we are pretty much stocked up on all essentials we need. Can feeding CC help with any weight loss on top of the pellets? Ugh.


              • tanlover14
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                  I got him an appointment at 2.


                • tanlover14
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                    He is living with the six other rabbits but he has one spot where he always sits so I gathered up as many poos from that box as I could find (some of them seemed fresh) and broke them open. Didn’t see any worms in any of them, thank goodness. They are kind of darker than my other rabbits poo? Does that make a difference or could be an indication of anything? Different sizes but not too different. Will post a picture in a few seconds.


                  • tanlover14
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                      He is pretty much the only one who sits here day in and day out, so I imagine most of these are his. 


                    • JackRabbit
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                        Update from vet visit????


                      • Dobby
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                          I’m curious what your vet says because this just happened to my Pip. He lost about 13% of his body weight pretty quickly. He is on meds for a UTI and the weight loss has stopped but he hasn’t gained anything back.

                          I’m not sure if it’s been hot lately for you but I was wondering if that could have something to do with it. Maybe some bunnies are more sensitive to the heat than others? (I have the AC on but my apartment still gets a little warm in the afternoon sun.)


                        • JackRabbit
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                            Waiting impatiently for news about Mucker . . ..


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                              I’m waiting on the update on Manny too……


                            • tanlover14
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                                Sorry everyone! I have been sooooo exhausted. Between bonding, Tucker issues, school, work, boyfriend. I feel so stretched thin!

                                So….. the awaited news on Tucker. Vet confirmed he was looking pretty thin (my scale was to the T with the vets). He’s definitely only 2.7 lbs. She said he was looking thin… not thin enough to where she would be like “what is going on???” but thin enough to where she thinks I need to double his pellet intake. She said some rabbits do not take well to the limiting of pellets (body weight wise). I do not know the amount he was used to but he’s been getting around 1/8 of a cup since being bonded with the group. Raised it to a 1/4. See if he puts on weight during his wellness check-up on July 26th. He was scheduled to go then with the others for their annuals so that worked out well.

                                She checked his eye infection. She does think it’s a bonding injury. She said it looked like someone got him a tad where his 2nd tear duct is and caused swelling. She believes this is clogging up his tear duct. She is concerned with the white discharge though. She pressed around his tear ducts in his other eye and white discharge came out of that one (though I hadn’t noticed it at all). She gave me eye drops to put in his eye on Monday and today told me to start putting it in both an begin him on a dose of oral antibiotics if I am still seeing white discharge on Thursday.

                                She is a little concerned about the excessive urinating on TOP of the weight loss BUT does believe most (if not all) of these issues are stemming from the stress of being surrendered, adopted, neuter, and then bonding in such a short period of time. We opted to do a blood test – there was a specific one to the kidneys I believe (and then a full CBC?), does that sound right? Our way of being proactive just in case. July 26th is his next exam so we will be able to tell if he’s gaining weight again. His blood results should be back either Monday or Tuesday she said… so I suppose now we wait?


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                                  Dobby, did your vet ever suggest up’ing his pellets?

                                  My vet did say that she would be WAY more concerned if I had him for three years and then he drastically lost that much weight. Did you press your vet further about the weight loss issue???


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                                    TL — I noticed that his poops are different sizes and some a little oval. I took Moshi to the vet a few months ago with poops that looked like that. Was told (by their exotics specialist) to increase his pellets (we had just reduced them to an 8th of a cup). Took them back up and he did much better.

                                    Just curious, how much water is he drinking?

                                    Hope all the tests come back fine. I had forgotten what all the poor little guy had been through! He just needs hugs!


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                                      If hug’s can make it all better, Manny can have Henry’s hugs for the rest of the week TL.
                                      Take care, I’ll be thinking of you both…..


                                    • LongEaredLions
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                                        I’ll add some hugs to that! Waiting is the worst. (((((Manny)))))


                                      • LBJ10
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                                          Sounds like the vet thinks it’s mostly stress-related. Hopefully that turns out to be the case. Poor Manny. =(


                                        • Dobby
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                                            Tanlover – My guys aren’t eating all of their pellets right now so adding more won’t help. Not sure what is going on. After staying steady for a few days, Pip is dropping a bit again. He is now at 662. Last Tuesday he was 685. Last March he was at 760.

                                            They both seem eager for treats when I get home and are eating their salad for the most part. I’ve also seen them both munching hay, although Pip isn’t eating quite as much as he used to. (And his teeth were trimmed on the 20th.)

                                            Luckily the vet is working tomorrow, so I am going to call her and figure out our next steps. She talked about possibly trying some gut mobility drugs to see if they would increase his appetite.

                                            I hope Tucker’s problems are nothing more than stress and will settle soon.


                                          • tanlover14
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                                              I’ve been feeding him extra pellets every night on top of what he eats with the group… we will see how he does. The eye drops seemed to have cleared up his eyes almost but there is no discharge so I’m not going to start him on antibiotics unless for some reason it goes south.

                                              I was going to weigh him next week (on tuesday so it will be an exact week) and see if his weight is up even a little bit. So stressed and tired from continued bonding with the brats. Working, school. Ugh, so much going on.


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                                                More (((((healing vibes))))) for Manny!


                                              • tanlover14
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                                                  I am freaking out

                                                  My vet e-mailed me saying that she got back his blood work results but that the number I provided wasn’t going through – she asked me to call the clinic and give them a different phone number she could call me back with. I did and they said she would call me tonight. I know the hospital closes at 7 tonight and still no phone call. My vet and I e-mail back and forth quite a bit and I’m scared there is something wrong with his results since she did not say they they were all normal in the e-mail…. I’m so worried and I hope she calls tonight even though it’s past closing time


                                                • JackRabbit
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                                                    As my grandmother used to say, let’s not borrow trouble. We’ll just hope that the vet was super busy and knows what a good bunny mom you are and wanted to wait until this evening to talk to you in case you had any questions. You never know, the vet may just want some time to hear about how bonding is going. Fingers crossed that all is well.

                                                    Edit: Please let us know after you hear from the vet. It’s hard for me to take my own advice . . . !


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                                                      I am going to throw up. Call back from the vet.

                                                      He has very high liver enzymes, he’s anemic, and he has a low white blood cell count.
                                                      The lab said he should be tested for coccidia right away….. and I feel like I’m in shock.

                                                      He’s been exposed to the other rabbits for over 2 weeks now… if he has it they are all most likely infected.
                                                      My vet said not to think like that until we know for sure. I can’t even breath.


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                                                        If he has coccidia, all your buns can be treated. Marlee and Moshi both had coccidia (vet said extremely high counts) when we got them. We treated them for it, and treated Kieko as well even though she showed no signs. A little Albon for everyone, a little cleaning and the others will be fine.

                                                        Did the vet say what the treatment and prognosis is for Tucker?


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                                                          Oh my goodness TL! I don’t know what to say, except I’m SO sorry. I know this won’t help, but what the hell – I’m giving Manny and the tribe ALL of Henry’s hug’s for the rest of the month, plus Henry’s head kisses just for Manny.

                                                          Take a deep breath, JR indicated the tribe should be ok (please let us know what your vet says), and I don’t doubt for a minute that Manny will be able to recover from this – your his mummy! He is in the bestest of hands.
                                                          Again, I’m sorry TL. I know – you just didn’t need this….. take care and PLEASE keep us up to date.


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                                                            JR – the vet said it is very much overdiagnosed which is why she wanted to do a fecal test to find out for sure before treating him (or any of the others) for it. Do you know if your vet did the fecal test? She said to collect fecal samples from him today, throughout the day tomorrow, and then Wednesday morning. She said the turnover on the test is 1 day so if I bring them in Wednesday, we should know Thursday or Friday what the outcome is.

                                                            She said if the test comes back negative, then we can attack it from either a bacterial infection avenue or it’s an indication of extremely poor diet in his past.

                                                            I keep reading about it on the internet – it would be specifically Hepatic coccidiosis and everything seems so deadly. I cannot stop crying.

                                                            I just will never forgive myself if this is what this is…


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                                                              TL – wrote a bunch to you this morning and lost it in site issues.. . will try again after work.


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                                                                TL, first of all, stop reading stuff on the internet!! Much of what is out there is worst case scenario, and while I understand the need to prepare for the worst and learn everything you can (I research everything to death!), the odds are in your favor. There are so many people out there who don’t know how to properly care for a bunny so I’d bet his diet was less than ideal. He’s been through so much in a short time (being given up, living at the shelter, going to a new home) that he’d have to have been feeling stressed (and that taxes the immune system). Even if it is coccidia, you have a great vet (who even emails and calls you at night!) who will know what to do. Plus, you know your other buns have healthy immune systems.

                                                                Second, you have NOTHING to forgive yourself for! You are a wonderful bunny mom! If it is coccidia, there is absolutely no way you could have known and could not have prevented it.

                                                                Please just trust your vet, collect the poops (I would keep each day’s poop in a separate baggy labeled with the date, and make sure Wednesday’s poop is super fresh!) making sure that all are Tucker’s in order to prevent false results, and breathe. Once the results are in, your vet will know the best way to treat whatever is going on. Let’s hope the treatment is lots of healthy nom noms!

                                                                The next few days are probably going to feel super long, but it’s a perfect time to get a little much needed rest, give everybun a little willow (don’t know if you saw that online), and just enjoy your bunnies!

                                                                If there’s anything that any of us can do, you know your BB buddies are here. for you. Looking forward to 7 healthy bonded bunnies!


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                                                                  JR, will be back on to read your post in a half hour-ish.

                                                                  Just wanted to update, don’t you know… Simba has decided he’s refusing to eat dinner tonight. With the boyfriend away on a business trip, getting sub-q fluids in him was near impossible. I got a tiny bit, not nearly the amount we typically administer. Syringed some water orally, about 10 small syringes full. He finally decided he would munch on some kale, probably had about a 1/2 cup.

                                                                  .. Seriously cannot catch a break with them this week…


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                                                                    How could I have missed this! TL don’t blame yourself! You are a wonderful bun mom!
                                                                    (((((((((((((((((((MASSIVE vibes to EVERYBUN, especially Manny and Simba)))))))))))))))))))))
                                                                    Sending lots of hugs, and comforting vibes to you. <3


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                                                                      Hey TL, I’m sorry you’re having some troubles with your bunny loves.
                                                                      So they are going to test for intestinal coccidia?
                                                                      I want to mention Baycox (toltrazuril) if you are having to treat for it. It’s supposedly very effective and the medicating time is much shorter then other anti-coccidants.

                                                                      How is his hay intake? His poops look like he favours veggies and pellets more. Or he’s bit dehydrated despite amount he drinks.

                                                                      Btw, I was thinking after they have a big drink / or have a big pee could change the result on the scales. If you’re going to do weekly weighing, maybe try do so after you’ve seen him toilet also??? I’m not sure if it’d make huge difference. Just a thought.

                                                                      {{{Vibes}}} for Tucker and Simba. I hope you’ve had some time to rest and de-stress too.


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                                                                        She said if the test comes back negative, then we can attack it from either a bacterial infection avenue or it’s an indication of extremely poor diet in his past.

                                                                        I’m a little confused about bacterial infection. Wouldn’t he have raised white cell count?

                                                                        Also, I wanted to ask if his blood glucose levels were tested? I have no clue what is checked on standard blood tests.


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                                                                          TL, hoping we haven’t seen an update because Simba is eating and drinking again, and you’re spending all your time laying around covered in hopping bunnies!

                                                                          {{{{{{good news}}}}}}} to you and all of your buns!


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                                                                            Sigh, I am back. What a hectic day. I was supposed to spend all week relaxing… I feel the exact opposite.

                                                                            LEL, thank you so much! <3 It's really hard not to blame myself if he is positive and they have all been exposed despite knowing it is not really my fault. I think the anxiety, stress, and waiting and also being home alone right now is not making it any easier. Having to explain it all to my boyfriend over text message (when I was on the phone with him I just kept crying and we haven't been able to talk much since he's working anyways) just sucks.

                                                                            First, Simba seems to have bounced back. He’s eating everything, drinking, poo’ing. I think he just had a small bout of something or maybe too many pellets the night before as he seems to be very sensitive although it’s so hard to monitor exactly what he is getting! I had upped the amount a TINY bit because of Tucker NEEDING to eat more now… very well could have been Simba ate too many. So SIMBA is fine now! Thank goodness.

                                                                            Jersey, it is specifically the hepatic coccidia they are worried about. My vet discussed his lab results with the labs exotic specialist to ensure she was not making a mountain out of a molehill as she says coccidia tends to be widely over diagnosed. The exotic specialist agreed it is very over diagnosed but in his case, if he were her rabbit, she would have him checked immediately. I am going to keep that med in mind to discuss with her if the test does come back positive. Thank you for that information. My vet is VERY much open to any ideas whether good or bad and is always open to giving me her opinion as well as providing medical research as to why she has chosen to go a specific direction but has ALWAYS given me the ultimate say which is what I love. She presents it all and allows us to decide. So this helps me greatly as I know she will research into this if she has not heard of it. I am curious as to why you said his poos look like he is into pellets and veggies more? Just curious as I mentioned to her the darkness of his poos and she said that could be due to extra moisture from all the water he seems to be intaking. She had not seen a poo in person though, only my explanation of it. He is pretty good about eating his hay actually! It has decreased a bit since being bonded but I can tell he is still stressed out by the lionheads. The Tans are very accepting of him. I do wonder if they know he is sick and are sort of shunning him to the side to protect the “herd”. No one is fighting with him, just shunning him. The weighing is a great thought. I have to take him out every night to give him additional pellets, I can do it before he eats when I see him urinate. Good thinking on that one.

                                                                            Now, onto the bacterial issue! LOL. Phew. So yes, she mentioned his white blood cell count SHOULD be HIGH (rather than low like his were) if there was a bacterial infection. The SAME thing with coccidia. Typically the red blood cell count is lower than normal with a highly elevated white blood cell count. This is my little bit of faith I’m holding onto that he has nothing wrong other than a previously terrible diet and his body is attempting to go back to normal. The main problem is that he has so many things NOT normal on his blood results that it is hard to pinpoint EXACTLY which area is causing the issues. Since his liver enzymes were the worst, I think this is why we are beginning in this direction.

                                                                            I e-mailed her today as I have read increasing reports that say the fecal test for coccidia is quite regularly inaccurate. The test will say negative when in fact coccidia IS present, just dormant. She said this is why they try to get samples over a few days rather than just one, to try and make the test as accurate as possible. But there is always the possibility it is wrong. She did say that if it comes back negative, we can start him on a dose of antibiotics just in case it is something bacterial. Then we can retest after the antibiotic is done and see if there has been any change. Depending on those results we can go from there. She did unfortunately tell me the only way to ACTUALLY know with a negative test is a liver biopsy which she said is way to invasive to even consider at this point in time for him. If we do antibiotics and he has no change in liver enzymes, she said the next step would be ultrasounds or x-rays to see an image of the liver itself.

                                                                            She said currently her biggest concern is getting him treated in a way that will not cause him to become MORE sick as the only symptom he has shown right now is weight loss (besides his blood results). She is worried about messing with his tummy flora as he seems to have been on a very poor diet before and she really thinks his body is trying hard to compensate for that and begin to straighten out.

                                                                            JR, thank you so much for your continued messages and vibes. I have really looked forward to your messages (I have read them without having much time to respond) as they have done a lot in making me feel not quite so alone.

                                                                            I am so stressed and worried and I am so glad I have you guys to lean on. I feel quite alone as it was my idea to get a 7th rabbit. So much has been happening with my illness, with my bunnies, and my own relationship recently that I am feeling quite exhausted and beaten down. And every time I pick up Tucker and feel how skinny he is my heart breaks a little bit. I feel like I failed him by not noticing until he was this skinny. I can feel his hip bones and can see the indents in his sides where his hip bones are.

                                                                            Thank you all for being here for me, I really appreciate it more than I can ever explain. <3 <3


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                                                                              TL, you are never alone. Besides, what other bunny is loved enough to have three “official” names?!?!

                                                                              The waiting is the worst part. I think you’ll feel better after the results are in and some kind of treatment is started. I know that always makes me *feel* like I’m *really* doing something!

                                                                              Take care of *you* and those buns, and give an extra hug to the tans from me (for being nice to our little Mucker!)!


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                                                                                I am curious as to why you said his poos look like he is into pellets and veggies more? Just curious as I mentioned to her the darkness of his poos and she said that could be due to extra moisture from all the water he seems to be intaking.

                                                                                Mainly because they’re similar to what Jersey’s would be like (though hers never as round as Tucker’s) and she was a pellet&greens only girl. She drank a lot yet her poops could be hard, dark and mis-shapen. I one time sent pic to Dana Krempels (as you do ) and she mentioned they looked “desiccated”. She’s often mentioned the use of lactulose for helping hydrate the guts contents.

                                                                                I’ve seen people that feed fresh grass in lieu of hay mention their rabbits fecal poop is darker in colour. Perfectly healthy poop, just darker.

                                                                                Tucker’s look pretty good size even if different to the others. It might just be the way he is.

                                                                                Re Toltrazuril, you’ll find Dana Krempels mention it quite a bit both for treating coccidia and E.Cuniculi.


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                                                                                  You sound so stressed. I really want to say try not to stress but I know THAT is easier said then done and I don’t want to come across as patronizing either.
                                                                                  I’ll echo Jackrabbits “look after you”. Excessive worry will only make your own health decline and use up all your energy. The buns may pick up your stress too. I think at times like this it helps to get in the mindset of “one minute at a time”. When you find your anxiety rising, try break the cycle by telling yourself what will really help and what won’t. If that makes sense. Using a positive phrase that you think might help and can accept. (Some of those phrases can be more annoying then anything so you gotta find one that works for you).

                                                                                  You’ve always been encouraging when I’ve been dealing with sick rabbit and I want to do the same for you. Please look after yourself because, as you once said to me, it’s the best thing you can do for the bun during these times.

                                                                                  Sending lots of positives {{{vibes}}} your way!


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                                                                                    Yep,
                                                                                    {{{{{TL}}}}} {{{{{TuckerMannyMucker}}}} {{{{{AllofTL’sBuns}}}}}


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                                                                                      I just wanted to put this out there, since you mentioned so much was wrong with the bloodwork. Has your vet had the lab double check the results? I know sometimes the lab forgets to take in account its a rabbit, not a cat or dog, and it skews the results. Just a thought. Hoping everything works out soon!


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                                                                                        That’s good info MM — I would never have thought of that!

                                                                                        TL — Have you gotten the test results back yet? Just thinking about you and your bunnies and wondering how things are going . . .


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                                                                                          Yes, manic makes a good point. Especially if the vet has to send the sample off to somewhere else.


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                                                                                            Good news, the test came back negative! Bad news, it’s pretty well known for being inaccurate! BUT we will ignore that as my vet believes that he really is NOT positive for it as he’s not exhibiting more symptoms and neither have any of the others. We are putting him on a two week dose of Baytril and then we will re-test and decide on an action plan based on the new results.

                                                                                            I AM beyond exhausted and broken. Not only the bunnies but my relationship is really struggling as well. While gone, I noticed the pictures of my boyfriend and I in his profile pictures had been deleted off Facebook. He claims Facebook must have accidentally deleted them but that doesn’t seem possible… only the pics of us and nothing else? Idk… He’s not here. I’ve been dealing with this entire week on my own while I’m throwing up constantly and becoming exhausted from never being able to keep any food down thanks to CVS. We also did not talk at all today as I messaged him very angry last night when I saw that. I am so overwhelmed with everything. But I suppose at least Tucker isn’t positive. I need to weight him and see if he’s gained anything else.

                                                                                            Thank you all. And thank you so much for your words, Jersey. I teared up after reading your message. <3 It really made me smile. And thank you as well JR, as you have been great to me! Your words and help have really helped me to not feel so alone. You guys are wonderful <3


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                                                                                              I’m so glad the test was negative! I was really hoping it would be, if not for the health of your bunnies, but because you needed a break.

                                                                                              I picked up on the bf thing in one of your posts. All relationships have their ups and downs. I’ve been married for 25 years and love my hubby to death, but we still have our issues and there was even a time 21 years ago where we talked seriously about going our separate ways. Now he cleans bunny rooms and condos every night while I play with the bunnies just because it makes me happy (and I don’t complain when he plays xbox ’til 5:00 in the morning because that makes him happy!). I’m sure your bf being away and not with you during all of this has raised both of your stress levels. I’m a firm believer that, with relationships, whatever is meant to be will be. Whatever happens, you are a very strong (but tired!) person and really can handle both the bad and good that life throws your way. (Anyone who can manage 7 bunnies can walk on water in my book!)

                                                                                              Hang in there, negative for coccidia . . . things are looking up! You should put the buns to bed, take a nice long bath (with lots of bubbles!), and get some sleep. Tomorrow is a whole new day!


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                                                                                                Seriously Tanlover, perhaps you should slow down just a bit. Whenever I see you talking about how busy you are, all I can think of is that you’re going to kill yourself if you try to keep things up at this pace. You work full-time, take classes, and take care of 7 rabbits (with bonding processes happening along the way). To top it all of, you don’t feel well a lot of the time. I don’t mean to sound like a worry wart, but all this insanity going on can’t be good for you.

                                                                                                With the bf situation, I really hope you can work things out when he gets back. He is probably stressed and frustrated too. I agree with JR, relationships have their ups and downs. There are times I ask myself why the heck I ever married my husband. We seem to drive each other nuts a lot. I suppose we both have our reasons and we both feel we are right and the other is wrong. Sometimes I wish he would see things from my perspective. Perhaps he thinks the same thing about me. It’s hard saying!

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