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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A HUGE BLOOD CLOTS??!!!!!!

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    • marinabunny
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        We got a urineanalysis done earlier for our rabbit as she was constantly having red urine. The results came back normal but CLEARLY they did it wrong or something because this is what happened today:

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      • Sarita
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          Well, I think you need to seek the advise of another vet on this – it could be some many things that we can only speculate.

          I hope you seek that second opinion and all is fine with your bunny.


        • marinabunny
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            Are these blood clots? Please help I dont know what I should do at this point as the vets are closed on Sundays. I’m horribly worried!


          • marinabunny
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              She’s also eating the blood, why is this?


            • NewBunnyOwner123
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                Is she spayed? If not she’s roughly 4 years old now correct? That’s definitely something to be concerned about. I’ve tried reading your post history and seems people didn’t ask this important question on wether she is spayed yet or not. Uterine cancer is high risk in unspayed female bunnies.

                It just looks like blood and I too would be very nervous about this too. I’d seek vet care ASAP. Like tomorrow morning take those photos with you. Does she have blood on her fur. Is it only when she’s peeing or does it seem to be dribbling out constantly.


              • NewBunnyOwner123
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                  Are you absolutely sure this is urine? Is where I’m getting at.


                • LongEaredLions
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                    Rabbits are prey animals, so they will eat blood to hide any illness or injury, to protect themselves.
                    I agree you need to get a second opinion and schedule a spay asap.
                    I hope she is alright!


                  • marinabunny
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                      No she is not spayed yet and yes the blood is on her butt as well as her nose, I think she tried to clean it off. I’m not absolutely sure that its urine… in fact i dont think it is, i think its blood. I’m really mad that the vet misdiagnosed because clearly from that picture there are clots. She also seems to be having more accidents lately and is peeing less in the litter box. And also a lot of people told me that blood comes up as red specks in the urine but this is fully red with clots… I dont get it and im freaking out right now


                    • marinabunny
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                        Will she make it through the night? I will miss school tomorrow if I have to


                      • jerseygirl
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                          She will probably have to have an emergency spay as soon as can be arranged. I’m very sorry.
                          It must be hard for you to see.

                          Has she stopped passing this stuff now?
                          How is she acting?


                        • marinabunny
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                            Now she’s just sitting in a corner barely moving. She pooped what looked like a cecotrope. Why does this always happen to me at the wrong times… :/

                            If anyone has any more opinions it would be greatly appreciated as i cant reach a vet at this point.


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                              Now she’s just sitting in a corner barely moving. She pooped what looked like a cecotrope. Why does this always happen to me at the wrong times… :/

                              If anyone has any more opinions it would be greatly appreciated as i cant reach a vet at this point.


                            • LongEaredLions
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                                Is she eating? Drinking? Has she pooped anything besides the cecotrope? Has she peed?


                              • marinabunny
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                                  She is willing to eat veggies should i just give her that? She has only pooped two cecetropes, i dont think she has peed asides from that red stuff


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                                    She does need to eat, so if she eats veggies you need to give them to her. She won’t eat hay or pellets? How long has it been since she pooped/ate normally? Does the red liquid dry red or brown?
                                    If she is not eating and peeing solid blood, I would perhaps think about trying to find a vet you can get to today.


                                  • marinabunny
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                                      She’s eating hay and veggies, she got scared when i came to give them to her and normally shes never scared of me. I estimate its been around 4 hours since she pooped normally but shes eating normally. The red liquid wasnt fully dried when i cleaned it up so im not sure but im guessing it dried red because when this has happened before that’s the colour it dried (only last time there wasnt clots).


                                    • jerseygirl
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                                        It’s good she’s eating.
                                        I think you can arrange an appt now in regular hours. Will your family support this? Do they recognize this needs to be attended ASAP? I know you’ve had trouble with this before so I really hope they’ll help you out.

                                        A urinalysis won’t pick up on everything. *If* these clots came from her uterus, they won’t be detected via urinalysis. I don’t think even polyps in the bladder would be detected.


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                                          I’m not sure how willing they will be… we’ve already spent around $150 in the past two months on the urinanalysis/check up. Plus this vet kind of shook my confidence in them, the better vet is an hour away. I was planning on talking to that vet about it and showing the pictures and see what they can do to help me.


                                        • LBJ10
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                                            Oh dear, that does look like a uterine issue. At her age, it is highly likely that it’s cancer. She will need to be spayed right away, only then will the vet know if it has spread already or not. I would feed her whatever she will eat to keep things moving. She needs to see a vet ASAP, but I think you’re okay waiting until tomorrow as long as she’s eating/pooping.


                                          • marinabunny
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                                              Can i just get her spayed instead of spending extra time and money on checkups when i feel that they will not do anything. Especially because we are tight on money its almost $80 per checkup, last time at the check up all they said was that nothing’s wrong…

                                              If i get her spayed i will do it at another clinic not this one


                                            • marinabunny
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                                                Also when do you suggest I get her spayed by because I do have to call around and inquire and find out what vet to go to


                                              • jerseygirl
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                                                  Personally, that’s the route I would choose. Instead of scans that may or may not detect things, I’d opt to go ahead and spay instead (provided vet deems rabbit healthy enough) as they can get a good look at organs in the region then.


                                                • jerseygirl
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                                                    If any uterine condition was diagnosed via tests/scans the treatment is often to spay anyway and I know you had planned to have this done.
                                                    Just my opinion. You obviously need to discuss it with the vet.


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                                                      Posted By marinabunny on 3/23/2014 8:31 PM
                                                      Also when do you suggest I get her spayed by because I do have to call around and inquire and find out what vet to go to

                                                      As soon as can be arranged I’d say. Just looking over your past threads, she’s had issues over the past few months.

                                                      Which Province are you in?


                                                    • NewBunnyOwner123
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                                                        She’s had this concern since January. So an emergency spay is very very important. Like I said, I’m very surprised this wasn’t questioned when you took her to the vet the first time for the blood a few months ago.

                                                        When she gets spayed they can tell you if it has spread or not. But she needs to get to a vet. And one that knows what they are doing. The vet you took her to for the urine… I wouldn’t trust his judgement. Did he not ask you these questions and connect the dots that’s what it could be? I’m just confused how this got overlooked by a trained professional when you took her in for this the first time.

                                                        For now give her what she’s willing to eat. Keep her strength up just in case they do a spay. SOONER rather than later because this is later already since you’ve had this issue for awhile now.


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                                                          jerseygirl- I am in Ontario, Canada.

                                                          NewBunnyOwner123- I know he even asked me if there was any vomiting going on, rabbits don’t vomit if im right? I’m definately getting her spayed by someone else.

                                                          I feel really bad for leaving this until now, i just didn’t know it was that serious i kept thinking it was pigmented pee. Will the spay get rid of any cancer if there is, what if it has spread? So do you guys think i should go right into the spay, or get her checked first? I would rather just do the spay as i dont want to prolong the time and don’t know how much money my family is willing to fork out for extra stuff, they are willing to have her spayed though


                                                        • LBJ10
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                                                            I agree with Jerseygirl. Just go forward with the spay as soon as it can be scheduled (given that the vet thinks she’s healthy enough). That would be the most cost-effective action since they would likely recommend spaying her anyway after any tests were done.


                                                          • NewBunnyOwner123
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                                                              I agree get her spayed first. It’s more cost friendly and even if it wasn’t cancer and it was something crazy like an infection or something else then at least you won’t have to worry about cancer in the future. If it is cancer and has spread to other organs then the vet can recommend what they think is best depending on what they find.


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                                                                Posted By marinabunny on 3/23/2014 9:16 PM
                                                                jerseygirl- I am in Ontario, Canada.

                                                                NewBunnyOwner123- I know he even asked me if there was any vomiting going on, rabbits don’t vomit if im right? I’m definately getting her spayed by someone else.

                                                                I feel really bad for leaving this until now, i just didn’t know it was that serious i kept thinking it was pigmented pee. Will the spay get rid of any cancer if there is, what if it has spread? So do you guys think i should go right into the spay, or get her checked first? I would rather just do the spay as i dont want to prolong the time and don’t know how much money my family is willing to fork out for extra stuff, they are willing to have her spayed though

                                                                Oh wow. Yes, don’t go back to that vet.

                                                                Try not to feel bad. You are doing your best and taking her to the vet for the urine test was a logical step. You couldn’t predict what’s just happened.
                                                                You love this rabbit and are doing your best in difficult circumstances.

                                                                Ok, Ontario. There’s a group called Ontario Rabbit Eduction Org. (OREO). I think there’s a forum associated but you have to be a member to view it. I’m not entirely certain. Ill try check it out. Hoping there will be some vet recommendations.

                                                                ETA: I’m unable to find vet listing there. If you’re in Facebook, try asking on their page?
                                                                https://m.facebook.com/pages/Ontario-Rabbit-Education-Organization-OREO/83160542690?id=83160542690&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpages%2FOntario-Rabbit-Education-Organization-OREO%2F83160542690


                                                              • MK
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                                                                  You need to take your rabbit to the vet and they need to check her before spaying.
                                                                  Not trying to sound mean, but this is serious. You can wait until tomorrow or go today, just make sure she is eating.
                                                                  If your family and you are having financial difficulties, (believe me I SO SO SO understand) it would be cheaper to go tommorrow, but you do put your bunny at greater risk. However, she sounds like she may be ok till tomorrow if she keeps eating and drinking.
                                                                  How is her pee and poop? Has she pooped or peed any?


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                                                                    Unfortunately all the vets in my area are closed on Sundays which is why i couldn’t go. She is eating and thankfully she pooped. But the eating/pooping isn’t the problem because otherwise she is acting normal it’s just the crazy blood clots. I was just really worried because if she has been losing THAT much blood since January I wonder how she’s even living


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                                                                      Sounds like she is doing better. Hope it is nothing too bad.


                                                                    • Tessie
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                                                                        Just wanted to send lots of love and get well vibes for you and your little girl. <3
                                                                        I’m sorry you’re going through this.


                                                                      • NewBunnyOwner123
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                                                                          Well the body can produce more blood in time.

                                                                          Sending good and healing vibes your way. Keep us updated.


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                                                                            Sending vibes – please keep us posted.


                                                                          • LBJ10
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                                                                              I hope you made it to the vet today. Keep us updated!


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                                                                                I’m so sorry this is happening to your poor bun! I hope you got to go to the vet today, please let us know what they say. As has already been said, a spay should be done ASAP. Sending lots of healing vibes to your little girl!


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                                                                                  Thank you all very much for your kind words! I am going to schedule a spay and I wanted to know what questions I should ask them. Also i’ve been trying to search this up but couldnt find anything what pain meds/antibiotics and anaesthetic are safe to use?


                                                                                • LongEaredLions
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                                                                                    Most vets use (I believe) isoflorane for bunnies, and the most common pain med is metacam. (It has a more complicated name too) those are both safe, most vets use them but always ask.


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                                                                                      Ok so I have been having TERRIBLE luck with finding the right vet. Most of them were quoting me around $400+ for the spay and were located far away on top of that! (some of these prices didn’t include extra costs like pain meds, pre-examination,etc) I really only have two options: my vet which is charging $235, (who also asked me if my rabbit was vomiting) or another vet charging $306 plus an extra $77 because apparently my 3 almost 4 yr old rabbit is “old”, they also said that mature rabbits go through heat which is why the extra cost- rabbits don’t go through heat!!! Oh and they don’t have an appt till next thurs…

                                                                                      I really don’t know what to do at this point, which vet should i go to if any? My vet is really nice and caring plus it is only 5 mins away, but then again he did ask at the last check up if there was any vomiting…


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                                                                                        Hmm, did you talk to the actual vet at the one charging $306? Sometimes the receptionists say things that are incorrect because they are not familiar with rabbits. That has happened at my vet. The girls up front say some strange things sometimes. A vet tech will usually correct them though.


                                                                                      • NewBunnyOwner123
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                                                                                          Do not go to the vet who thinks rabbits vomit. That’s just a bad sign. He HIMSELF asked this question. Not some receptionist. Call the place back that said about heat cycles and ask to speak with either the vet tech or the vet. Receptionists really say the darnedest things.


                                                                                        • Bam
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                                                                                            I think both vets you’ve spoken to seem absolutely clueless when it comes to rabbits. What do they mean by heat cycles specifically? Rabbits don’t have heat cycles, they are induced ovulators meaning that they drop eggs when they have sex with a male bunny. In practice, all sexually mature female rabbits are permanently in heat.
                                                                                            Llamas are the same (although, obviously, with a llama it would require sex with a male llama, not a bunny).

                                                                                            You need a good vet. When they open her up, if they see that the cancer has spread beyond repair or there’s sth else wrong that’s not uterine cancer and won’t be helped by spaying her, they should not do the procedure. So you must be very clear when you speak to the vet you choose.

                                                                                            I’m so sorry about your bunny.


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                                                                                              Posted By bam on 3/25/2014 4:00 AM

                                                                                              Llamas are the same (although, obviously, with a llama it would require sex with a male llama, not a bunny).

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                                                                                              LOL, ‘a male llama, not a bunny’ 


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                                                                                                Woah, tangent. Hey! Did you know a baby llama is called a Cria… ;o)

                                                                                                marinabunny, not sure if you’ve looked but here’s Bunspace list of vets for Ontario.
                                                                                                http://www.bunspace.com/vets/vetsearch

                                                                                                I think it’s put together from members suggestions so you’ll obviously still need to check out their experience yourself.

                                                                                                Also; try ringing some of the SPCA clinics to see if they do rabbits.
                                                                                                http://www.spayneuter.ontariospca.ca/index.php/facts

                                                                                                Regarding anaesthetic, isoflurane is common. My rabbits had ketamine.


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                                                                                                  @MK, I understand your concern about checkup before spay. This is definitely not straight forward spay. I assume the vet will do a health check beforehand regardless. Its just if she’s booked in for the procedure right off, the sooner it can be done if appropriate.

                                                                                                  If it turns out this isn’t a uterine condition, the rabbit can still be treated and spay postponed if that’s recommended.

                                                                                                  @marinabunny, if you do continue to have trouble finding a vet you’re confident in for surgery, then dont delay too long in getting her seen. A closer one can at least check she’s stable.


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                                                                                                    Bunspace has about 4 pages of vets in Ontario, most have reviews from fellow bunny owners… This is the link to the search page… http://www.bunspace.com/vets/vetsearch Keeping you in my thoughts.


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                                                                                                      I am so sorry to hear this. Keeping you and your girl in my thoughts.


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                                                                                                        Thank you all once again for your support. I booked a regular appointment for tomorrow morning (not a spay) at another vet not the ones i listed above. They basically said that they want to get her checked before going into a spay bc there could be something else wrong.The receptionist said she really doesnt think the blood has to do with the uterus/uterine cancer, but then again she is a receptionist.. What do you guys think could be causing the blood asides from uterus problems? Maybe bladder stones?
                                                                                                        Anyhow, the vet is going to see where to go from there but just incase he/she gives me all these other tests like xrays, urine tests etc. should i get them done or just go ahead and get Fluffy spayed?

                                                                                                        Another question: what should i be feeding her for now? She doesn’t seem very enthusiastic about hay and im worried she’s getting weaker. She does love veggies tho and i usually only give her 1 cup a day- should i give more? Also (sorry for so much q’s) do certain veggies with a lot of calcium cause bladder stones, she usually gets romaine, cilantro, collard greens, or bok choy


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                                                                                                          Just looking at the pictures, I highly doubt it is anything in the bladder. We have had people on here before with a bunny with uterine cancer and the clumps of bloody tissue is what brings them on here worried about their bunny. The only other thing I could think of is an infection in the uterus or a non-cancerous growth inside the uterus.

                                                                                                          Have the vet take a look. Honestly, I would think that a knowledgeable vet would know when to suspect uterine cancer. From what I’ve heard, vets will just go ahead with the spay because that would be more conclusive anyway. They will be able to look at the surrounding organs no problem and determine if it has spread or not.

                                                                                                          Keep offering her veggies if that is what she will eat. I don’t think it will hurt her any.


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                                                                                                            If it were in the bladder then the urine tests would have picked up on this when you took her to the vet the first time with this issue.


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                                                                                                              I’m pretty positive it has to be uterine. I can understand that the vet would want to inspect her first but also it sounds pretty convincing that that’s what it is. Hopefully they could just do an emergency spay when she is seen or something.


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                                                                                                                So, I went to the appointment today. The vet gave my bunny a thorough examination and felt for any lumps/enlarged organs- there were none. She also did a pee test for free and found a teeny bit of blood but said the pH levels were normal. She suspects it could be coming from any one of the tracts, not necessarily from the uterus. She seemed really intent on having x-rays & bloodwork done which would come at an extra cost of $600, however she said it was our decision and if we wanted we could go with the spay but we would be putting her at a higher risk. She did say the spay would be more cost-effective and we might be able to find out the problem when they open her up, but x-rays & bloodwork would be the safer route to go. I didn’t want to prolong the time and do unnecessary tests when I feel the end treatment is going to be to spay anyway, so I have her booked in next Wednesday for a spay.

                                                                                                                I don’t know if what we chose was the best decision as the doctor kept reminding us that her risk of not waking up from anaesthesia is high. Trust me, there hasn’t been a moment when I haven’t shed a tear, or had doubts about this, but I feel that’s all I can do for now as the extra tests added in with the spay would amount to over $1000, and I don’t want to put my little girl through the added stress of going back and forth between home & the vet to get tests done

                                                                                                                Have my fingers crossed and I will just keep hoping for the best! Please keep Fluffy in your thoughts x


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                                                                                                                  Keeping Fluffy and you in my thoughts! I hope everything turns out okay.


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                                                                                                                    What kind of anesthesia is she using did you ask her questions to test her knowledge that she knows what she is doing? Because she can’t use the same anesthesia that they use for other animals because then she won’t wake up.

                                                                                                                    Uterine cancer is just so common in unspayed rabbits. I hope they figure the cause and I hope surgery goes well sending you guys lots of vibes your way. Please keep us posted. So sorry you are having to go through this.


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                                                                                                                      I also ask this, why is your vet nervous about the spay. Why does she think she has a high chance of not waking up? Did she give a reason?


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                                                                                                                        I’m late to this thread but I just had to make a comment.

                                                                                                                        I am glad that you have booked a spay for your bunny. As you know, the procedure is very important for does and the vet can see if there are any uterine problems.

                                                                                                                        Years ago, I rescued a BIG black Rex doe. Keep in mind, this was in Eastern Europe so rabbit vets are few and far between. (And do not have great equipment, access to drugs, etc etc etc..) Anyways, she endured some bad abuse but I took her for a check up at the vet. The vet gave her a visual exam, and minus being blind, said she was fine to go home. She was not spayed yet at 5 years old but I planned to book her one. Soon after, she started passing big blood clots like in the photos posted! It was on a weekend and no emergency vets nor vets willing to work on a weekend. By the Monday I could get her into the vet, it was the third day of clots. She was weak and was going into shock. The vet said it was uterine cancer, obviously from not being spayed, and this poor bunny had to be euthanized. I’ll never forget those clots.

                                                                                                                        So, those photos reminded me of this! Thank you for taking your bunny to the vet and scheduling a spay. Clots and possible uterine issues are serious matters. I send all my best wishes and healing hopes to you and your girl. *hug*


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                                                                                                                          (((marinabunny))) {{{Fluffy}}}


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                                                                                                                                  I will be keeping you and your bun in my thoughts.


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                                                                                                                                    I hope Fluffy will be ok! I had my two bunnies spayed and neutered more so out of pure necessity since i have a boy and girl. It was pretty expensive. some vets wanted over 300 PER rabbit! Luckily i found the most perfect vet for my buns three hours away in another city. where i live in texas is a crappy lil city lol. but they made it out swimmingly. meatloaf’s hair grew back over her incision site. she is such a good bun. i read some horror stories about buns digging their stiches out. but not my lil meatsie. <3 And your bun sounds lile a fighter. she is still pushing herself to eat to keep up her strength. i will keep her in my fuzzy thoughts for you. =]


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                                                                                                                                      Update: Fluffy’s spay was moved to Friday, the vet re-arranged everyone’s appointments so they could get her in earlier and lower the risk, and I am so thankful that they did. It has now been 2 days since her surgery and she is doing great… I’m amazed at how fast she’s recovering! For those wondering what the issue was, there were numerous large blood clots in her uterine horns and cervix. The vet said that she didn’t see any tumors and the like, and asked if we wanted to send the uterus for biopsy to see if there was cancer. Is there any point in that? I mean, does it really matter if the uterus was cancerous since it is now gone and out of her system. I think from the biopsy they wanted to figure out that if there was cancer, if it spread to other organs or not. If it did what would be the treatment? Would they be able to save her in any way? I hope that this was either just the onset of cancer or not cancer at all, and was just contained in the uterus. For now, I am just happy to see her make it through the surgery, she has really come a long way!


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                                                                                                                                        Yay!
                                                                                                                                        ((((Continued Healing Vibes))))
                                                                                                                                        If you can do the biopsy, I would. it could inform you of any problems, and what you might have to do in the future.
                                                                                                                                        Glad her spay has been done!


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                                                                                                                                          I agree, it would be worth having the biopsy. I have heard stories of uterine cancer and the bunny having symptoms like Fluffy’s. They had the bunny spayed and it was found that the cancer was contained within the uterus.

                                                                                                                                          Well, anyway, I’m so glad you were able to get her in for the spay. This is definitely good news!


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                                                                                                                                            I’m so glad that she is healing and that you decided on the spay! I’ve been wondering how she was doing this weekend. I would have the biopsy done too, just to ease my own mind. Keep us posted on her!


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                                                                                                                                              I’m so glad you managed to get her spayed so quickly and she’s recovering well! Great job.

                                                                                                                                              If you do have a biopsy done, keep in mind that it will only tell them weather the growth was cancerous or benign. The biopsy won’t show if it spread or not, that’s something they should have checked out when they had her opened up during surgery. I guess they didn’t notice anything else though, so that’s a good sign.

                                                                                                                                              Sending lots of healing vibes!


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                                                                                                                                                Yay!!! So glad for lil Fluffy! Glad she healing and doing much better! And I agree with the biopsy. Always gokd to have all the info. I would be curious to knkw if something was wrong to cause clots like that.


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                                                                                                                                                  Hazel, yes, sorry I didn’t word what I said the right way. The biopsy will show whether or not it was cancer. Them doing the surgery itself would help them determine if any possible cancer had spread since they would be getting a good look at the surrounding organs. But there are people on the forum who have had good outcomes when their bunny had signs of uterine cancer and decided to do an emergency spay.


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                                                                                                                                                    Oh this is great! I was still thinking the surgery was this Wednesday and hadnt checked in on this thread.
                                                                                                                                                    I’m so relieved to hear she is recovering well. You must be enormously relieved as well!
                                                                                                                                                    I really feel like you’ve saved her life marinabunny.
                                                                                                                                                    How did you like the vet that performed the surgery?

                                                                                                                                                    In my mind, changes in the sex organs are a precursor to cancer developing. That aside, uterine infections would be painful and could lead to things like sepsis.
                                                                                                                                                    Fluffy is now not at risk of this.

                                                                                                                                                    A couple years ago, my friends unspayed rabbit started bleeding and passing large clots. Sadly, she became unstable during surgery and they opted to put her to sleep. The vet also didn’t see signs of cancer but found more clots.
                                                                                                                                                    At the time I had read about clots and polyps forming on the endometrium (lining of the uterus). This is apparently common. (The treatment is spay). This is what I thought might have happened with her rabbit but we’ll never know for sure.

                                                                                                                                                    I think from the biopsy they wanted to figure out that if there was cancer, if it spread to other organs or not. If it did what would be the treatment? Would they be able to save her in any way?

                                                                                                                                                    I’m not certain what treatment would be. I’ve never had to face that but I’m not certain I’d put a rabbit through things like chemo or radiotherapy…
                                                                                                                                                    You could ask the vet what sort of things you’d have to look for if it were cancer and had metastasized. How often you’d need checkups so to nip things in the bud. I.e. 6 months, yearly?
                                                                                                                                                    I think uterine cancer most commonly spreads to the lungs. Keeping and eye on mammary glands would be a good idea. You could check them regularly at home to watch for changes.

                                                                                                                                                    More {{{vibes}}} for Fluffy. Wonderful she is doing so well. : )


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                                                                                                                                                      I edited your original post title and removed the “EMERGENCY” part since this thread is a week old and 4 pages long already and out of the urgent stage…

                                                                                                                                                      I’m so glad she’s doing well!


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                                                                                                                                                        I want to thank all of you for helping me through such a scary and difficult time! Couldn’t have done it without you! Fluffy is doing very well and is practically back to her normal self. Sorry for this post being soo long, just wanted to share some pictures and I promise that’s it

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                                        Here is the lil’ fighter:

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                                         

                                                                                                                                                        The first day she was a bit groggy, but by the 3rd day she was attacking her food


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                                                                                                                                                          Soo happy to hear she is doing better! And she is a beauty


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                                                                                                                                                            I’m so glad everything went smoothly and she is on the amend. And she’s very pretty! If you want, there’s a monthly picture thread posted in the lounge. Feel free to visit this months thread post as many pictures as you want! she’s very pretty


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                                                                                                                                                              No worries about the thread length! Everyone was very supportive and helpful and that’s what matters!

                                                                                                                                                              You have definitely done great in acting so quickly when this situation arose. Thank you for YOUR vigilance and a BIG THANK YOU to your family for helping to provide the care she needs in a timely manner!

                                                                                                                                                              The vet who spayed her (if I understand correctly) is a different one from the others you’ve seen, right? Even as just an outside observer, I am so touched by their kindness in getting her in so quickly. If I were you, I would get a thank you card and send it to the office addressed to the vet and staff… Just letting them know how much you appreciate their help and speed during this scary time. (In my professional life, I have received thank you notes from patients and it really helps me know that I am moving in the right direction… Just my two cents…)

                                                                                                                                                              This thread is incredibly important, not just for Fluffy but for countless other bunnies with owners who may be searching this topic in the future. We have many, many more readers than contributors… so someone may read this someday and it might be the difference between life and death for their rabbit with similar symptoms…

                                                                                                                                                              Please give Fluffy some kisses for me…


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                                                                                                                                                                I agree Beka, this could definitely be a learning experience for someone else in the future.

                                                                                                                                                                I’m so glad Fluffy is feeling better. It sounds like she won’t be down for long. =)


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                                                                                                                                                                  So glad this beautiful girl is recovering. I know this thread has been incredibly educational for me, and for others in the future.


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                                                                                                                                                                    Stunning blue eyes! Lovely bun, thanks for sharing pictures.


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                                                                                                                                                                      Bunnylady, NewBunnyOwner, jerseygirl- thank you, she is a really pretty girl !
                                                                                                                                                                      Beka27- GOOD idea! I am very impressed with this vet, they genuinely care about the pet and don’t put money first. They practically saved my girl’s life… definitely going to stay with them!!

                                                                                                                                                                      Thank you to the others. I’m glad this has been a learning experience for everyone including me, and will continue to be for others in the future. Sometimes what doesn’t seem like a problem at first turns into a much bigger problem later on. If I had continued on the thought that this was pigmented pee, who knows if my bunny would be alive today. Sometimes you have to be extra careful with buns as they never show symptoms until way later when the problem has most likely worsened. I also hope this is an inspiration for individuals to have their rabbits spayed, you never think anything’s gonna go wrong until it happens to you.

                                                                                                                                                                       -marinabunny


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                                                                                                                                                                        Well said! Anyone who says it isn’t important to get their bunny spayed, I am going to send them straight here!


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                                                                                                                                                                          Hi,

                                                                                                                                                                          Did this solve your problem down the line? I know immediately things improved. We’re going through the same issue right now and wondering if I should go to the vets to ask for an emergency spay in the morning.

                                                                                                                                                                          Mines been to the vets once and given antibiotics but things haven’t improved. She is basically passing blood every time she goes to the toilet now 😢


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                                                                                                                                                                              Welcome to BB! This is an old thread, I don’t think the OP is still around. However, if my memory is correct, Fluffy did well for quite some time after this. If your bunny is having a similar issue, then spaying ASAP is the best choice you can make. If it is uterine cancer (which is common), you have a good chance of curing her by having the diseased uterus removed. There have been several cases on the forum where the cancer had not spread and the bunny went on to live a full life after the spay.


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                                                                                                                                                                              An emergency spay is your best course of action. Blood doesnt necessarily mean cancer, it can be due to endometrial aneurysms in an unspayed doe. The bleeding can lead to severe anemia. A spay will put an end to the problem.


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                                                                                                                                                                                Thank you guys for the replies.

                                                                                                                                                                                I got her booked in for an emergency spay appointment and once I got her to the vets, the vet kindly said they’d do it on their lunch hour!

                                                                                                                                                                                Once there, they said they won’t do the procedure until they have investigated further. They needed to do scans to further investigate. They did an ultrasound and an X-ray at a cost of £300.

                                                                                                                                                                                They said she has a two masses in her bladder which didn’t move when lifting her up, so gravity didn’t make them move (their words) suggesting it wasn’t stones etc, they said it’s likely cancer.

                                                                                                                                                                                They’ve sent her back home with Metacam 1mg per day. They said to keep going with medication until she stops eating, going into the garden (basically her usual daily activities) and then take her in to be put to sleep 🥺

                                                                                                                                                                                 


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                                                                                                                                                                                  I’m so sorry to hear that. 🙁  I hope the pain meds can keep her comfortable for a while so you can spend a bit more time together.

                                                                                                                                                                                  . . . The answers provided in this discussion are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. Seek the advice of your veterinarian or a qualified behaviorist.  


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                                                                                                                                                                                    I’m very sorry.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I hope the metacam will keep her comfortable. Meloxicam can be given in doses ranging from 0.3 to 1.5 mg (for severe pain) per kilo body weight and day according to Medirabbit. http://www.medirabbit.com/Safe_medication/Analgesics/safe_analgesics.htm

                                                                                                                                                                                    That the lumps dont shift but seem firmly  attatched to the bladder wall is a strong indication that they’re tumors growing out of the bladder wall itself.

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