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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > THE LOUNGE > A friend of mine needs help getting rid of a agressive cat.
Last Post by Jessie1990 at 2/01/2014 11:01 AM (21 Replies)
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User is Offline Calmknight
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2/01/2014 8:33 AM

Ive never been in this situation, but a friend of mine (just a gamer that I play with a lot) has been interested in getting a bunny. Hes been studying months about them and their needs to be kept happy. His local rabbit rescue has many adorable rabbits for adoption and I told them how loving they can when you give them a chance a a good and happy life.

He and his girlfriend want to get rid of their cat, they say its a aggressive cat that is killing animals from outside and doesn't really care for human attention. they want to drop it off at the shelter to be euthanized, but the shelter wont even let the cat be surrendered until they donate 60$. Just outrageous.

I found that ridiculous and unfair on all levels. He asked me to find out if there was any other legal way of getting rid of your cat. Google isn't helping, but do you any ways to get rid of an unwanted cat legally other than shelters?


User is Offline Jessie1990
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2/01/2014 8:54 AM
To be honest, I think it's the human that is the problem in this situation. Cats are predators... They hunt if left outside. If the owner doesn't like the killing of birds, mice, rabbits, and other wildlife it's their responsibility to keep the cat indoors or supervised. Cats have personalities just like rabbits. I have an aggressive rabbit that actually bites and scratches but I would NEVER surrender her. The cat is not aggressive, it's being a cat. It sounds like the friend is just tired of the cat because it didnt fulfill expectations. I would NOT recommend a rabbit to this person. What if the rabbit is not social enough? What happens when it chews their furniture? I'm not sure why they would demand that an animal be euthanized at all... Why not just rehome to people who are understanding?

Sorry for the rant, but I have experienced frustration because of an animal that is tough to handle. Not once did it occur to me to end her life.
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User is Offline Jessie1990
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2/01/2014 9:04 AM
Oh and because I provided no advice... What exactly does the cat do? Because I had a cat for 17 years that would bite and scratch everyone but me. I knew it was because he didn't like his stomach being touched. I was 5 when we got him and never told the rest of my family why he did it. We did everything together. Explored forests, slept, and cuddled any chance we got. All it took was understanding what annoyed him. (He was highly aggressive towards my brothers until he got older). So I suggest figuring out what the cat does not like and don't do it. I could actually touch his tummy after I gained his trust, and would often dare other ppl to try. I was a bad kid
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User is Offline MoveDiagonally
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2/01/2014 9:22 AM
I'm moving this to the Lounge because this is not a rabbit related question...

I'm not sure what you are asking really. Your friends are responsible for the cat and a surrendering fee is not outrageous. What you described sounds pretty normal for a cat in general. They are hunters and if you let them outside they hunt. It's actually a huge problem in communities with a lot of outdoor or stray cats. Your friends would probably be better off bringing the cat inside if hunting is an issue. If the cat is human aggressive then a vet visit is a must. A lot of animals aren't aggressive "just because". They are aggressive because of mishandling or a medical issue.

If at the end of the day they don't want the cat anymore they should find a no-kill rescue or shelter and give her a chance at a better life. Yes, there will be a surrendering fee and yes there SHOULD be a fee. Animals are expensive to care for and I'm not sure why you think your friends should be able to dump that responsibility on someone else for free. THAT seems outrageous to me.

I would suggest your friends not get another pet until they mature a bit more. I'm not saying any of this to be mean. This post just doesn't make them sound very responsible.
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User is Offline LongEaredLions
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2/01/2014 9:27 AM
Think about it this way. What if your mother hated your personality, and she wanted to kill you because of who you are. She takes you to the orphanage, but soon realizes it costs money to get rid of you, and thinks it is outrageous and unfair that she cannot easily dispose of the child she chose to have. Does this sound right? If your mother thinks that you are a toy that can easily be disposed of when she is tired of you, she is wrong. You never did anything, you were just being yourself.
^sorry if that makes no sense, it was the best way I could think of to explain it
I would recommend this person to take this cat to a no-kill rescue. If you chose to have a pet, you need to know it is not disposable and deserves respect. You are not perfect, and neither is any animal. It sounds like the cat is just being a cat.
Sorry for the rant.
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User is Offline Calmknight
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2/01/2014 9:30 AM
He got the cat for free from someone... He told me that the former owners abused the cat and that he tried to work with the cats behavioral problems, the cat also stopped using the litter box, so they made it an outdoor cat, and it starting killing everything that it knows it can kill.

He has been spending a lot of time with the bunnies at the rescues and has made his deliberation. He wants a calm loving animal and doesn't mind getting a bonded pair if needed.

I have known him and his girlfriend for a long time, their good people and would never abuse an animal. hes just sick of the cats unworkable behavior problems and wants to get rid of it.


User is Offline LongEaredLions
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2/01/2014 9:33 AM
Is the cat fixed?
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User is Offline Calmknight
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2/01/2014 9:37 AM

I got to ask him about it, I assume the cat is fixed since that solves many behavioral issues.


User is Offline MoveDiagonally
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2/01/2014 9:41 AM
It doesn't matter if they got the cat for free or pay 100,000 dollars for it. They took on that responsibility with full knowledge of t's behavioral issues. If it's not manageable for them then they should do the responsible and empathetic thing and find a no kill shelter or rescue willing to work with it. It will likely cost them money to surrender and it SHOULD. They are putting responsibility off on another person/group. Why should they expect to do that for free?

Have they taken the cat to the vet and had testing done to see if it has underlying medical issues? Have they talked to a rescue or shelter that deals with problem cats to see if they can help them with the cats issues?
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User is Offline Sarita
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2/01/2014 10:06 AM
For heaven's sake - give $60 to the shelter and then it's done. How is that outrageous? They have overhead costs too and from people wanting to "get rid of their" animal because it doesn't suit them for whatever reason.

And there is NO SUCH THING as a free animal...there is always a cost to caring for any animal.

User is Offline NewBunnyOwner123
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2/01/2014 10:16 AM
I'm confused why they want to euthanize the cat instead of giving it a chance with someone else. Plus the shelter fee is because they have to house the cat, provide food, water, litter, vet care if needed. A $60 donation, because that won't cover what they'll need im sure, is a very small fee IMO. There is no where he'd be able to take the cat to get euthanized for free. That takes drugs and drugs cost money and it's their responsibility to pay for the cat.
Just like taking it to the shelter will cost the shelter money even with that surrender fee. I just see someone who so willing to dump a cat or actually KILL a cat because it's doing what it naturally does and hunt and even FEAR people because of PEOPLE not HIS FAULT highly irresponsible and uncaring. They don't think the cat is worth $60 to find it a loving home? When bunnies do what they naturally do like dig and chew and not want to be picked up, will he just go dump the animal at the shelter and try a different bunny over and over again and protest about an outrageous fee because he thinks they should take your animal and provide all the food and care for free? I personally think that fee should be more. $60 won't get the shelter far in providing the care the cat needs.nthats not what a shelter is there for.

I just don't see these people should be having any animal until they realize the responsibility and COMMITMENT they require.

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User is Offline Jessie1990
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2/01/2014 10:19 AM
I would definitely tell them to find a no kill shelter if it is human aggressive. Kill shelters around here don't take the time to work with behaviors as much as the no-kill shelters. Aggressive animals don't last long in kill shelters. Honestly, I would take the cat on in a heartbeat. I find that working with a difficult animal is the most rewarding experience I have had as an animal parent. Ashe is very aggressive for a rabbit and I feel that it is caused by environmental irritants and motion. I have a very special bond with her because I have a similar problem in which certain sounds and motions cause extreme irritation for myself. So, it was quite interesting that she came to live with us. I feel that in any other home, she would have been cast out (either to a shelter or set free). I don't think anyone else would have taken the time to really watch her and see what triggers her.

Just to give you an example, she hates when she can hear people downstairs. When the sounds from the downstairs neighbors are audible in her room, she follows them around thumping from above. She also hates fast motion and will lunge and bite us if we move quickly from her blind spot or into it. I find it funny because my triggers are gum chewing, thumping from UPSTAIRS, repeated clicking and when my boyfriend flips the remote in the air and catches it repeatedly. I am glad she is with me, because when I make a move in May, the situation will be much better for the both of us

I have two rabbits, one that is very sweet and loves to cuddle. He grooms my forehead each night before bed. Ashe on the other hand, only allows her head to be pet. She does want pets very often, but if you forget to move VERY slowly, you get bitten. I honestly don't blame her a bit... if I didn't have 23 years to build up self control I would want to attack ppl chewing gum too So, I would suggest you tell the friends to try to figure out what triggers the kitty and come back here. Maybe we can give some insight even though we are mostly bunny ppl. I think most of us have been around cats as well.

The key is finding out the cause, which may just be the abuse, but there has to be a situation that really brings out the behavior.
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User is Offline hunbun1011
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2/01/2014 10:34 AM

Another thing to consider is what will happen when they "get sick of" the rabbit and its behavior? Also, you mention they want a loving animal, if that means cuddly, a rabbit is not for them. Rabbits are not usually very "loving" (or at least what most people count as loving-cuddly, like to be held) , with very few exceptions of course.


User is Offline Calmknight
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2/01/2014 10:40 AM
I just talked to him again and he said the cat isn't fixed. He says its not worth the trouble when a sadistic animal just kills for fun, he admits making a huge mistake and will not take anymore free cats. I can forgive a mistake once.

This may sound a bit strange, but he also said hes not liking cats anymore, He doesn't want an animal that hurts others for fun. He prefers just to live with bunnies only house. Hes pending to adopt a couple of rabbits already at his rescue and even met them themselves. I don't think he will be irresponsible. he has already been studying rabbits for 6 months and has all the rabbit stuff he needs.

Ill try to suggest him to give the cat away for free. 9/10 chance it will be a death sentence, but who's life did the cat spare?

User is Offline Calmknight
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2/01/2014 10:42 AM
@hunbun1011

I personally never held my rabbit, the most I do is lay on the floor beside my rabbit, my arm around her and petting her... my first bunny seems to like this and tooth purrs like crazy, but do they like it majority of time?

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2/01/2014 10:43 AM


User is Offline Tessie
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2/01/2014 10:48 AM
How can you say that you think it's okay for the cat to die?
This is a community of animal lovers.
How would you feel if someone said that about your rabbit/s?

I'm going to try hard to be civil here.
Please tell them to give the cat to a no-kill shelter, where it will have a second chance.
You say you believe in forgiving mistakes, so let this cat have another chance, please don't advise your friends to give it somewhere where it will be killed.
The cat has instincts, you can't put moral judgement on it.
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User is Offline LBJ10
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2/01/2014 10:50 AM
If the cat is a male and not neutered, then that is probably A LOT of the problem right there. Especially if he was inside and then other cats were "taunting" him by marking around the house. It would cause him to mark all over the house because he would be trying to defend him territory from these outsiders.

So their solution was to keep the cat outside? That just isn't right. Then they complain because the cat is killing "for fun"? What did they expect? A cat will be a cat. The instinct to kill is there, whether they are hungry or not. If he is well fed, then he may not feel compelled to eat everything he kills. This isn't unusual at all.

User is Offline Jessie1990
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2/01/2014 10:55 AM
Blah. This post makes me very mad. Obviously they have made up their mind about their cat, so tell them to pay the $60. The fact that Neutering/spaying could make a huge difference (un-neutered males feel the need to wander around more for a mate, and therefore hunt more) and they are unwilling to pay for it tells me they are unfit to be responsible for any animal. I really hope they don't end up with a rabbit like Ashe. Even nice rabbits will lash out when in pain.

SO, I would tell them to either pay the $60 or call around to other shelters.

As a response to the last post, even Ashe lets me put my arm around her if I do it slowly. She tooth purrs anytime she gets attention. I think it just depends on the rabbit.
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User is Offline Calmknight
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2/01/2014 10:57 AM
I'm pretty sure this place is for bunny lovers, not animal lovers. That is optional.

I have learned not to care about what others think. if someone says something negative, I'm like oK. Words mean nothing, actions mean everything.

What are the odds of a cat dying when given for free? It shouldn't be the majority of the time it happens, especially here in Canada.
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