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Forum DIET & CARE Bindi-Weightloss Vet Visit Update

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    • LittlePuffyTail
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        I’m getting very frustrated. Bindi was always a nice, solid little bunny but the last year or so, he keeps gaining and losing. He was getting too thin before we had his teeth done in early January. Then his next visit in February, I think, he had gained back up to 5lbs which is a good weight for him. Now he’s back down to 4 lbs,13oz and he just feels way too thin.

        I’m suspecting it’s his teeth again. The vet looked with an otoscope at our appointment a few weeks ago and what she was able to see looked good. I’m really hoping he’s not going to be the type of bunny who needs his teeth trimmed every 2 months or so. The stress and $ of that would be hard to handle. 

        I’m going to keep weighing him weekly and if he doesn’t gain more soon or loses anymore, I will bring him in to see the vet.

        He gets about a TBSP of pellets per day. I’d like to up the amount in an attempt to put weight on but he’s had a lot of tummy troubles that I fear giving him more.

        He reminds me of a Thoroughbred horse. You horse people will know what I mean.

        I want him to be healthy for like half a year. Is that too much to ask? Or even like 3 months. It’s just non-stop with this guy. I love him so much, he’s worth all the stress but I want him to be healthy and happy.


      • Sarita
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          When was his last tooth trim? It was around Christmas wasn’t it?

          How old is he now? Have you done any bloodwork lately?


        • Beka27
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            Do you supplement with a little bit of alfalfa hay? I don’t know what to tell you, my dear… are fluctuations normal for him or is it always a sign of teeth? Maybe start to slowly work in more pellets? Like each day for a week, give him an extra half teaspoon until you get him up to 2 tablespoon. With such a small amount, I’m hoping you won’t see a change in his tummy troubles.


          • peppypoo
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              Aww Bindi! Throughout this weight fluctuation, has he had marked changes in appetite? Sorry if you’ve addressed this somewhere, but I don’t think I caught it.


            • MimzMum
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                I always thought Bindi and Mimzy were about the same size but Mimz is only 3 pounds. His weight fluctuates also and has for a few years now. I’ve just been attributing it to his age more than anything. He does have dental and respiratory issues that are ongoing and there is a wavering appetite that goes with that.

                Sending (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((vibes))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) for Bindi not just because he needs some but because I just wuvs him! <3<3<3
                Big (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) for you too. If there’s anything I can do please message me, okay?


              • LittlePuffyTail
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                  Sarita- His last trim was January 8, I believe. He’s going to be 6 later this Spring. He had pre-anesthetic blood work done for his last dental. Will most likely be doing a fully panel blood work if this keeps up.

                  Beka- No, I don’t give him alfalfa. He tends to lose weight when he’s needing a dental but other things have made him lose weight as well, like oral Baytril. He was on Baytril Autic for almost a month last month but I can’t see ear antibiotics making him lose weight. He’s just had so many health problems that I can’t keep his weight up.

                  I was so happy after he was back up to 5lbs after his dental, but it was very short-lived.

                  Peppy- No, he LOVES food. He’s a huge piggy. That’s why I want to feed him more pellets but my vet made me cut back a long time ago when he was having a lot of GI problems. It’s so weird (and frustrating!) when he’s eating the exact same everyday and loses 3 ounces.

                  Mimz- Oh, wow, I didn’t realize Mimzy was so small! He’s just a wee guy. Many thanks, Mimz.

                  He’s not been having the cecal problems he normally has when he needs a dental. But his right eye is still pretty runny.


                • TBpony414
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                    Did someone say “Thoroughbred”? My TB and lop rabbit are both very difficult to keep weight on. What brand of pellets do you feed Bindi? My lop used to have serious tummy troubles when I tried to up his pellets in an attempt to keep his weight up, so I switched from the red bag Oxbow Essentials to the blue bag Oxbow Natural Science pellets. He now gets double the amount of pellets and his poops look great, no gurgling tummy issues or anything bad. Instead of the main ingredient being timothy, the Oxbow Natural Science pellets are made with oat hay which is 1) more fattening and 2) easier to digest. Petsmart sells it and you can order it online. I would definitely recommend switching to that. I was pretty skeptical at first but now I’m a believer.

                    Another suggestion, you can add regular oats – like Quaker oats from the grocery store – to his pellets and that will help too. Start with 1 teaspoon and slowly up it to 1 tablespoon. I’m in the process of this now so I can’t yet confirm or deny if the extra calories help.


                  • LittlePuffyTail
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                      Going to e-mail my vet today and see if she wants to see him first or if she wants me to book a dental. I hate this….dentals are sooooo stressful for me. And poor Bindi, he’s had so many health problems to deal with.

                      TBPony- I’m going to look into those pellets. I didn’t realize they were made with oat hay. I’ve been supping his Orchard Grass with Oat Hay to try to get him to eat more of it.


                    • RabbitPam
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                        {{{{{{{{{{{{Healing vibes for Bindi. Just to get the weight thing settled.}}}}}}}}}}}}}


                      • MimzMum
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                          Aw, poor Bindi. I will keep some prayers and vibes going for him should he wind up with that dental, and some comforting vibes for you as well. (((((((((((((Hugs)))))))))))
                          Mimz has an appointment on the 20th for an assessment. Happily, his original vet has rejoined the clinic and works some weekends now, so it will be good for both of us to see her.
                          We sure need a break from this year already, don’t we LPT? (((((((((((((more hugs))))))))))))))


                        • LittlePuffyTail
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                            Made an appointment for Thursday evening and just got an e-mail from my vet asking if I can bring him in during the morning as she will probably need anaesthetic or sedation to get a really good look at his teeth. She may take X-rays as well.

                            Please wish us luck. My boy has been through so much. I just want him healthy and happy. I love him so much. I would do anything for him.

                            Mimz- Good luck at Mimzy’s appointment! Yes, it’s like last year never ended. Fresh start for Spring please….


                          • BinkyBunny
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                              Good luck! I know it must be very stressful! Sounds like your vet is trying to get to the bottom of it and hopefully some solid answers and solutions will come from the exam. Keep us updated

                              Mimz — so glad to hear you have your original vet back and so good luck with your appointment on the 20th!


                            • Sarita
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                                Hopefully you will have some answers soon. If it’s dental problems well, then at least you know that’s what the problem is.


                              • MimzMum
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                                  As always keeping you and Bindi Loo foremost in my thoughts and prayers ((((((((((((((((((((((((Huge hugs))))))))))))))))))))
                                  Ugh…early morning appointments…lol…I always have a hard time with those. (eyeroll). Fortunately the bunny in question is usually wide awake…too bad he can’t drive! 0_0
                                  Thanks for the good wishes for Mimzy too


                                • LittlePuffyTail
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                                    I actually hate the mid- afternoon appointments more. I feel so horrible pulling him out of his bed while he’s fast asleep and shoving him in the carrier.

                                    I’m an early riser anyhow, so I don’t mind.


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                                      Goodluck LPT & Bindi!

                                      Might be an idea to weigh at home right before appt to compare to reading they get on the vets scales. Good way to check if variation in the scales. I sometimes weigh a grocery item that has a known weight to check if my scales are giving a good reading.


                                    • LittlePuffyTail
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                                        I’ve done that before, Jersey and my scale is pretty accurate. I weight my buns like clockwork every month. I know he’s lost quite a bit of weight just by petting him, it feels like there is no fat on him at all. It’s very upsetting how thin he feels. And just in February, he was a nice chubby 5lbs.

                                        I’m so eager for the apt. tomorrow. If he needs a dental, not sure if she will be able to do it tomorrow or not but I’m hoping she will. I can’t help but be worried about the dreaded C word since Stormy had lost weight right before he was diagnosed. I had mentioned a few months ago that I found a nodule-type lump on Bindi’s back and had the non-rabbit vet check it. She wasn’t concerned about it since it was not attached to anything under the skin. But it’s gotten bigger so I will make sure my vet checks it. It’s really hard to find since it is so small so I may be taking a Crayola marker before the apt and putting a little dot on his back so I can find it easily to show her.


                                      • MimzMum
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                                          Thinking of you for your appointment tomorrow. I hope it’s simple and easily sorted.
                                          (((((((((((((((((((((Huge hugs for you and noserubs for Bindi)))))))))))))))))))))))) xxxx


                                        • LittlePuffyTail
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                                            So, I have a little guy right now with a very sore mouth who is unwilling to eat. Hope I’m not going to get out the Critical Care.

                                            Went to the vet this morning. She checked the nodule type lump on his back and is also not worried about it. He has had a lump under his ear for like a year that my vet believes is a cyst and I and she think it’s gotten bigger so she did a cytology.

                                            As for his teeth, she had to put him under to have a good look. There were some very sharp points that she filed down. She did head x-rays. She saw something of concern in the root area of a molar but she sends all her bunny x-rays to a radiologist for exam. Hopefully, it’s not decay and his tooth won’t have to be removed. I’m already very down about the fact that his teeth needed to be filed down after only 3 months. Does this mean he’s going to constantly yo-yo with his weight?

                                            I feel so bad. He was feeling really great this morning, zooming and binkying and then I brought him to the vet. I hate feeling so guilty about it, but I can’t help it.

                                            Will have the cytology and x-ray results in late next week.

                                            Has anyone dealt with molar removal?

                                            Continued vibes appreciated.


                                          • Sarita
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                                              The root area sounds very much like Toffee’s problem which is root tooth abscess and it seems to come and go – my vet has pulled a few of her teeth as well and the same with Bobby – he has no lower left molars at all. So yes, I’ve dealt with this alot. It’s been on-going and we’ve done various antibiotics including pen-g, baytril and another antibiotic that I cannot think of but it’s in the same class a baytril.

                                              Also Pepe, Toffee, and Peppermint all seem to have this weird ridged teeth – basically their molars seem to grow uneven so that all the molars do not line up.

                                              It’s not basically a matter of weight loss although Toffee has experienced this lately – Bobby fluctuates too between 1 to 2 pounds but he’s been at 2.5 for the most part.

                                              I think it’s just a fact of life with many rabbits that in their later years or even earlier depending on the type of rabbit (lops and netherlands with smushed up faces) are going to have dental problems – after all our rabbits aren’t bred for anything other than looks and nothing at all to do with their health….which I suppose is common in almost all domestic animals.


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                                                Aw Bindi!!! {{{vibes}}}. He may be tender now but will be feeling so much better before too long. It’s good these spurs were dealt with before they did too much damage.
                                                Is the molar root where the vet noticed something one of the teeth that spurred?


                                              • LittlePuffyTail
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                                                  I’m not sure if it’s the same tooth, Jersey.

                                                  He’s feeling pretty good this morning. He ate all his breakfast.


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                                                    Very promising!


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                                                      I’m glad to hear he’s had his dental. Mimzy can get very tiny spurs and that will be enough to stop him eating. He has those uneven points as well. Must be a lop thing. My vet burrs them right down to the gumline. He’s about a 3 months dental usually but it’s been a year at least since he last had one. I dread what we’ll find next weekend.
                                                      Not to worry you, but the problem with molar extraction on a bun is being sure not to crack the jaw in the process, from what I’ve been told. It would be good to have a specialist/dentist for this. We had a cracking one here until last October, then she moved to be near Monkeybun (lucky girl!).
                                                      If it’s something that could be solved with a pulp drill, then that is supposed be a safer option. It’s basically a bunny root canal.

                                                      Of course it is up to you and your vet but those are the methods I’ve heard of when it comes to naughty tooth roots in bunnies.
                                                      My vet always sent the xrays of Mimzy’s jaw to a technician also. I always thought that was odd.

                                                      I really hope Bindi continues to feel better and can enjoy his noms again. xx Thinking of you both.


                                                    • LittlePuffyTail
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                                                        Yikes, that is scary, Mimz. I will def be having a chat with my vet about the method used, etc. But I’m HOPING very much, the x-rays will not show any reason to extract. Bindi doesn’t usually stop eating or even lacks in appetite at all when he needs his spurs done. That’s why I don’t understand how he can lose so much weight when he’s still eating the same amount.

                                                        Sarita- What was the recovery like for your buns after extractions? Bindi is usually sore after just getting spurs filed down so I imagine he would be very sore and unhappy. Is it as bad for a bunny as getting wisdoms out in a human? I had my bottom wisdoms out a year ago and I could not believe the pain I was in for over a week.

                                                        Also, my vet mentioned that with bunnies you need to extract the opposing molar as well. After I got home, I did some reading and read that is controversial. What are your thoughts?


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                                                          If the gums are diseased or abscessed and the tooth is loose then the tooth coming out should not be difficult and maybe that will be the case, it always has with my rabbits. The tooth is already diseased and loose. I don’t find that they have a long recovery time honestly – not any longer than any other dental procedure. It’s probably a relief to get the diseased tooth out as that is what is causing so much problem. I don’t think you need to extract the opposing molar, my vet’s have never done this. No matter what the case is the rabbits teeth are going to move and dental trims are going to be a lifelong issue. So, I would say I would not do that and have never had my vet suggest this.

                                                          I cannot imagine removing all of Bobby’s upper teeth even though he has no lower teeth on one side – doesn’t make sense. And probably by the time that you extract the molar that is diseased it may not be lining up with that lower molar anyway.


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                                                            I agree Sarita. I asked my vet about extracting opposing molars in discussion about Jelly. She had said that it was generally found it wasn’t necessary. She showed me on a model skull how their teeth occlude with 2 opposing teeth, not just one.

                                                            It’s likely different case by case and different for incisor teeth too I’m thinking.

                                                            LPT, my friends rabbit had an abscessed molar and treatment with antibiotics was not successful. When the vet was checking the tooth it actually came out as virtually no bone was holding it place. She’s had several rechecks and the vet has been surprised how much it’s helped a year later.


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                                                              The reason they take out the opposing molar is to keep it from growing down into the lower jaw, or up into the upper jaw depending on the removed tooth. But if he gets it trimmed regularly with his other teeth I would guess it isn’t a problem like Sarita said.
                                                              And yes, if that tooth is already diseased then taking it out is going to be a blessing. Bindi will feel much better. Let’s hope if it needs to be done it’s an easy out.

                                                              I had an impacted wisdom tooth on my lower right side. It was AWFUL. Just the one crowed out all my other teeth and the pain was unreal. Once all four were out I was a much happier camper.

                                                              I’m preaching to the choir here, but, any tooth that causes the gum/jaw to be inflamed is going to keep a bunny from really wanting to eat and they will lose weight. Even if it seems like his normal volume is going in, for some reason it doesn’t appear to stick pounds-wise. Especially if he’s fighting some background infection. Of course there could possibly be more things going on, but I’ve never seen any creature that does so poorly when it comes to just a toothache or jaw infection. Bunnies just aren’t constructed to deal with discomfort of any kind. They can hide the pain, sure, but they don’t tolerate it and it shows up in other ways to let us know they need help.
                                                              Did the doctor check his heart and breathing? You mentioned his ears being gunk-ed up again…no possible upper respiratory trouble to go with that?
                                                              As always healing vibes and prayers going out to you and Bindi Loo. (((((((((((((((((((prayers and vibes))))))))))))))))


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                                                                Thanks for the info, guys. I will discuss the sitution RE: opposing molars with my vet if need be. I hate approaching a situation like this. “I’ve read that….” I hate to act like I know better.

                                                                Mimz- The vet checked his heart and breathing during one of his last appointments in March, I think and all was well. He’s feeling very good. Lots of binkies, etc. Just that darn weightloss. It’s really upsetting to me. I pick him up and it’s like skin and bones. I want my chubby hunny back.

                                                                Should I be offering something to get his weight up? Maybe Alfalfa hay or like TBPony mentioned, the Oxbow pellets made with Oat hay? Right now he’s just getting a bit of a gradual pellet increased as per my vets suggestion.


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                                                                  When I had talked to my vet before Bindi’s dental, I had mentioned that his eyes, mostly his right eye, was still runny. She said she was going to flush it. It’s still quite runny, not visibly running, just the fur is wet and yucky looking at the corner. I’m not sure if she did flush it or if she forgot because she didn’t mention when I talked to her after the dental. I will ask her next time I talk to her. This is another thing that’s making me think there is a molar problem.

                                                                  And, like Mimz mentioned earlier, I think he may have ANOTHER ear infection. They are all gunked up again and one has a mild odor.

                                                                  More Vibes needed please. I’m finding myself very stressed and worried. I’m afraid with all the problems he’s having. He’s only going to be 6. I want him to live a very long time. He’s my little baby bear.


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                                                                    Didn’t your vet do a head x-ray? Did she take a few different ones? I would think it might show something in the eye area where he’s having drainage.


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                                                                      She did do Xrays. On the bill it says “Series of X-rays” so I assume she too several. I will be talking to her later this week to inquire.


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                                                                        More healing vibes and prayers for Bindi (((((((((((((((((healing vibes))))))))))))))))))))))))
                                                                        My OH just had dental surgery himself. His teeth/jaw had to be removed/scraped in one spot because it had a bad infection in it. Today he is even having stuff draining from his eye on the surgery side because the infection spread to the sinus cavity.
                                                                        I would ask your vet in particular if the tooth he’s having trouble with is affecting that eye.


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                                                                          Thanks, Mimz. Always appreciated. Yoy, that sound really painful. I hope they gave your hubby some very strong pain killers. (((((Mimzmum’s Husband)))))

                                                                          Does anyone have any input on whether or not I should try to get him to gain weight? Alfalfa hay or Oat hay pellets? I really hate him being so thin, I fear that if he gets ill (stasis or something) it will just be awful since he usually loses weight when he’s unwell and he’s really so thin right now.

                                                                          Hopefully, I will hear from the vet tomorrow. It will be a week. If not I will call and inquire.


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                                                                            I’ve heard of people using “calf manna” (or Manna Pro???) to help their rabbits gain weight. I don’t know much about it sorry.
                                                                            Would oxbow junior pellets help do you think? I like the sound of the oat ones too!

                                                                            Thanks for the info, guys. I will discuss the sitution RE: opposing molars with my vet if need be. I hate approaching a situation like this. “I’ve read that….” I hate to act like I know better.

                                                                            A way to approach this is tell you are reluctant to take out multiple teeth (anyone would be) and ask if she could look into whether its successful to leave opposing molars for you. She’d have access to literature, professional forums or be able to consult with specialists vets.
                                                                            I guess if there are several molars that are problematic and need to come out, then there may be little choice but to extract some opposing molars. If it were just one tooth though, then the opposing one might be able to stay.


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                                                                              I don’t think you need to try to get him to gain weight – putting on weight too quickly is as bad as losing it too quickly – as long as he is eating and maintaining that is the best thing.

                                                                              I always ask – what I usually say is “What is your opinion on ….. this is what I’ve read ….. my vet never thinks that I know better than her, asking is caring about the welfare of your rabbit and any vet should know that is the reason for the questions. Really, having the opposing molars in is not going to change the fact that you may need to do regular dental filings since once that molar is removed, the teeth are going to change position where the molar was removed.


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                                                                                Had to stop by the vet today for cat food and asked the receptionist if they had results of Bindi’s X-rays. She went and talked to the vet but what she said didn’t make any sense. She said they got the preliminary results and it’s a cyst. I asked what they do about that and she said she didn’t know but the vet would talk to me soon. So I was thinking he had a cyst in his mouth but then I figured she was confused as we had also sent samples of the suspected cyst under his ear to an outside lab. I’m suspecting she wasn’t talking about the xrays at all. I hope my vet calls me tomorrow. If not, I will e-mail her this weekend.

                                                                                I want Bindi to start putting weight on. His weight is really hard on my heart. He’s way too skinny, it makes me think he’s really sickly. :*(


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                                                                                  Sounds like the tech was fixated on the cyst, sometimes it just doesn’t pay to speak to them. I’ve had to insist on having some time with the vet when it comes to things like this. Sometimes the office is just too busy and the aides just don’t get the info right. I don’t mean to sound harsh, I just don’t want to waste anybody’s time…especially mine!
                                                                                  I hope you are able to find out something from Bindi’s doctor soon. This must be terribly frustrating.
                                                                                  I know some people sometimes feed just plain oats to bunnies to help them keep weight level. Not too many, just a few at a time, once a day to every few days. I found to keep weight on Mimz I had to return him to pellets, but now he doesn’t eat his hay well, so it’s a trade off.
                                                                                  Thinking of and praying for you and Bindi. (((((((((((((((Hugs))))))))))))))) xx


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                                                                                    Something to ask the vet; could weight loss be reaction to any of the meds he’s had?

                                                                                    ETA: what about starting him on some natural immune support? You’ve probably seen the herb products they have for horses for this.
                                                                                    Oxbow do an immune support product too.
                                                                                    Im thinking if Bindis body had been fighting constant infection with his ears, his immune system would be taking most the energy provided from his daily food intake.


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                                                                                      Will look into the immune support, Jersey. Is Oxbow’s one of those cookies products they have? I’ve tried the digestive and joint support ones.

                                                                                      I’m pretty convinced he has ANOTHER ear infection. I’m going to ask if I can just bring a sample from his ears on a Q-tip (since this is all they do at the vet anyways) and that will save him the stress of yet another vet visit. Will call the vet today to discuss his x-ray results.


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                                                                                        Poor Bindi…not another ear infection!
                                                                                        Sending healing vibes for him. ((((((((((((((((((((((Vibes))))))))))))))))))))) Did you get to speak with your vet about the xrays?
                                                                                        Have they made certain he doesn’t have an abscess in his ear canal somewhere? I don’t remember if you said anything about that.

                                                                                        I can recommend the Immune Support tablets…Mimzy loves them. He actually takes two of each of the Oxbow supplements a day.


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                                                                                          Thanks for the recommendation MM. I’ve only read of them but that was all.

                                                                                          The BB store stocks them
                                                                                          They’re referred to as hay tablets so I guess it is cookie-like LPT.


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                                                                                            Only Bindi would get test results back showing something completely new and unsuspected. That guys had some many different (and recurring) health problems. Oy yo yoy…

                                                                                            So I finally talked to the vet yesterday. Good and bad news. First, the lump under his ear is just a cyst as suspected. Since it’s not bothering him, we are just going to leave it alone. Second, the radiologist saw nothing of concern with his molars which is a big relief. However, they noticed inflammation around the bone in his nasal cavity. Say what? Apparently, this is mild and nothing to be too concerned about, but since Bindi is so sensitive my vet wants to put him on a course of antibiotics.

                                                                                            She said, with him being so sensitive, it’s possible this is adding to his weight loss issues. And could also be responsible for his weepy eyes. I had mentioned about a month ago that I found his breathing a bit more squeaky and she checked his lungs and said all was fine. My guess is the squeaking was due to this inflammation. It did sound like it was nasally.

                                                                                            So my guy is starting Oral Baytril today, 2x a day. I’m concerned because while on oral baytril in the past, it sometimes caused him to lose some weight and reduced his hay appetite. He really cant stand to lose any more. Vet said to keep a close eye on his poops and eating. As if I wouldn’t. She wants to see him for a weigh in after his meds are done.

                                                                                            As for his ears, she said to give them a good cleaning and if the smell persists and/or they fill up really fast, she will check them out. She said if there are the beginnings of an ear infection, the oral baytril might take care of it.


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                                                                                              Ah, LPT, I think Mimzy and Bindi must be the only two twin bunny brothers from another mother in existence!
                                                                                              Mimzy has some kind of nasal deformity that can be seen on xray. When he was younger this would contribute to his URI’s. Since his tilt he hasn’t really had as much trouble,why I don’t know. A rabbits’ ears and nose, eyes and teeth are so closely linked when it comes to illness. If one has a problem, then likely all the others should be checked for some kind of connection. That being said, the only time his nose cleared up completely was when he was on a protracted course of baytril, once before he got head tilt-the second time he was on it for the tilt and that lasted almost four months. Perhaps that is why he looked so thin towards the end of that round. He was also taking metaclopromide, meclazine (for balance) and fenbendazole. All those meds at once may just have been too much for his stomach. But now that he’s all cleared up he’s gained, so maybe that’s all that’s needed for Bindi.
                                                                                              Didn’t Bindi have a mild form of head tilt earlier this year/late last year? Is there a possibility that he still has some residual bacteria from that illness in his ears?

                                                                                              I don’t know if you are comfortable with injections, but perhaps injectible baytril would be better for him since his tummy doesn’t do well with the oral? I know I can’t manage needles, so I can understand if you can’t. I wonder if some ranitidine might help his stomach cope with the antibiotics?
                                                                                              Did your vet clean his ears or did she ask you to do it? I had to hold Mimzy while my vet did a brief clean of his, but she said most of the goo was so far down she will have to do a better clean while he’s under GA on the 4th.
                                                                                              Glad to hear the thing under his ear is just a cyst. There’s one less thing to worry about at least!
                                                                                              Thinking of you and Mr. Bindi Loo and praying he gets better (and stays better!) soon! ((((((((Hugs))))))))


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                                                                                                So my guy is starting Oral Baytril today, 2x a day. I’m concerned because while on oral baytril in the past, it sometimes caused him to lose some weight and reduced his hay appetite.

                                                                                                Interesting you’ve noted that before LPT. It’s what prompted my Qu before abouts meds & weightloss as a friend told me hers seem to lose a bit of weight on baytril also. Is he still on baytril otic aswell?

                                                                                                I ditto MMs suggestion of injectable. Or an alternative abx (flagyl maybe???).
                                                                                                Another route is putting drops in the eyes as it travels down to the nasal cavity and treats any issue with eyes also.

                                                                                                I’ve been trying to find where I had read about B vitamins stimulating appetite. It was in Dana Krempels GI stasis article (Pt III section E). Dark leafy greens are a good source of b vitamin but B12 would have to be given in supplement form. It is added to pellets usually.

                                                                                                Very happy news his tooth roots are looking good!


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                                                                                                  I agree, Mimz, they are two of a kind for sure. Expensive kinds! But both so loved.

                                                                                                  Not sure how many days he’s on the Baytril, it just says “take until gone”. Doesn’t look like more than a week’s worth, though. I’m not good with needles but I’m sure my hubby would be able to do it. It will be something I will discuss with my vet if he starts to have problems with the oral. I’m just really crossing my fingers he won’t. Too many problems lately.

                                                                                                  It was mid to late September when he had the tilt. My vet didn’t clean his ears. She’s never cleaned them while he’s been under. I have a solution called “Aveena Sativa” that works well. It takes quite a few flushings but it gets his canals pretty clear. He’s pretty good about it, despite how long it takes to do a real good cleaning.

                                                                                                  Jersey- He’s not currently on Baytril Otic.

                                                                                                  I really want to get this cleared and then get through the rest of Spring, at the very least, with a healthy, plump bunny.


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                                                                                                    ***Knocking on wood*** Bindi is tolerating the Baytril pretty well. I talked to the vet this morning and asked if I should put him on some Benebac while on it and she said yes. One dose every 3 days. Hopefully, that will stop any tummy upsets.


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                                                                                                      This is a happy update!
                                                                                                      I used benebac too. After awhile, Mimzy just got to the point I couldn’t get him to eat it. But I think while he had it it really helped his tummy.
                                                                                                      We get the nasty green gel they use for the birds and reptiles. I think there are other kinds that are a little more bunny friendly, but this one comes in that huge syringe that has the dosing scale on the plunger, so whether he likes it or not it’s really easy to dispense.


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                                                                                                        I just wanted to say I’m sorry that Bindi has been not doing well. I’m glad that he seems to be doing better! =] Keep being a good boy Bindi and get better! =]


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                                                                                                          Thanks, Skippers’s Mama.

                                                                                                          Mimz- We have the big syringe too, it’s kind of like a yellow gel and smells like Vaseline but Bindi eats it willingly. Stormy went nuts for the stuff.


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                                                                                                            Posted By LittlePuffyTail on 04/28/2013 07:20 AM
                                                                                                            Thanks, Skippers’s Mama.

                                                                                                            Mimz- We have the big syringe too, it’s kind of like a yellow gel and smells like Vaseline but Bindi eats it willingly. Stormy went nuts for the stuff.

                                                                                                             

                                                                                                            Hm…ours is green and must taste nasty because I’ve got to catch him first once he knows it’s coming. Kinda hard to sneak up on him with it too.

                                                                                                            Is yours made specifically for bunnies?


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                                                                                                              I’m not sure if it’s made for bunnies. I seem to recall a cat and dog on the package. It’s been a while since I’ve had this bottle so I can’t remember.

                                                                                                              And Good News! Bindi feels less bony and my scale is showing he gained over an ounce!


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                                                                                                                *binky!*

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