Bosse is not eating, please help!

[Svandis]

A few days ago I found a string pearl poop, with fur in. I brushed Bosse and didn’t think much of it. The same night I was going to get Bosse in his cage and was giving him his nightly veggies, and he didn’t “follow” the veggies into the cage like he usually does. I just thaught that he had caught on and didn’t want to go in the cage. He ate them once he got inside though, but not with his usual enthusiasm. I should have taken it as a warning sign.. This was two nights ago. Today when I got up he had barely eaten any of his pellets (which are usually gone by the morning..), and he hadn’t drunk much water, and not even touched his veggies from last night.. I felt this panicky feeling shoot through my stomach and went to get raisins to see if maybe the veggies were off or something and he ate one or two, slowly and with no enthusiasm, and he didn’t want more, he got angry when I tried to nuzzle them on front of his snout. THIS IS NOT LIKE HIM. I then went to look in the litter box which didn’t tell me much because the litter box was a bit full, so I couldn’t know if he had been pooping. I then saw another one of those string-poops.. I found two of them in his cage.

This happened an hour ago. I have since brushed Bosse thoroughly, set out a bowl of water in addition to his bottle, tried feeding him a carrot, some pear, more veggies, pellets and hay. Hay is the only thing he has nibbled a little on. I changed his litter box asap, and he has pooped, but they are so small and a little on the soft side.. I’ll add a photo. 

Now, what can I do?? I’ll go to the store soon and get some pineapple and pineapple juice. I’ll try and call the vet. It’s just that I don’t live very close to the vet and I don’t have a car.. I would have to take the bus and I would have to change buses etc etc to get there and it would take about 1,5 hours to get there, on and off buses. I don’t know if I want to stress Bosse out like that, he did not like it the last time.

I’m just really really upset.

[Svandis]

I have also given him a tummy rub.

[Roberta]

Sounds like a blockage. Is there another vet nearby even non rabbit savvy, they could possibly call your vet for info.

Is there a friend or relative who could drive you to the vet ?

[Svandis]

That is a really good idea, thank you roberta! I’m searching around now to find one close.

[Roberta]

Hitting the health forums. Here are some links don’t know if there is anything in the first one but I’ll grab everyone that might have something.
https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/113683/Default.aspx
https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/121144/Default.aspx
https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/121292/Default.aspx
Finding more but here’s some to start with.

[Roberta]

https://binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/114043/Default.aspx
Is Bosse still pooping at all ?

[Roberta]

If there is still poop even odd ones its not a blockage, at least not a full one.

[Monkeybun]

Do you have any infant gas drops around? Also known as simethicone. A week or so ago Smudge was not eating too, similar symptoms. I gave her some of that, and made her run around the living room to get things moving. She perked right back up late that night. So, you may want to try that, but do keep the vet idea going too, if the simethicone doesn’t work.

[Svandis]

He hasn’t pooped since those two hours ago.. He has nibbled a little more on his hay though. I made an appointment at a vets office not too far from here and my friend is driving up there later (she lives there), so she’ll give me a ride. They advised me to go somewhere else as they didn’t have much experience with blockages in rabbits and referred an office two hours away.. I asked them if they could talk to my vet and to the vets office they referred, and if I could still come. They said yes, and are going to do some research up onto my appointment. It’s at 3pm, it is now 11:44 am.

Gonna read up on those links now, thank you so much Roberta.

[Svandis]

Monkeybun – I don’t have anything like that around here and I don’t think they have it at our store.. :/ Gonna try and get Bosse moving though. Thanks!

[Svandis]

Do you guys think the pineapple thing works? Because I don’t want to leave him alone for 30 min to go to the store if it doesn’t work..

[Roberta]

If you are only a few hours shy of the vet appointment I’d leave it unless there is a pharmacy. Simethecone is a human baby gas treatment. They may have it but under a different name. I have to buy it under a different name here in Australia.

[Svandis]

The links were very helpful!

This scares me though:

“Lethargic behavior. The rabbit may appear listless and may crowd into a corner of the cage while demonstrating little interest to outside stimulus. This behavior will often appear in the later stages of GIT disease and should again be a serious cause for alarm. At this point the condition of the rabbit is in serious decline and without immediate intervention by a veterinarian survival will be in doubt.”

This is what B is doing atm. The last few days he has been more into hanging out in the corner of his cage, I just thaught it was his new favorite relaxation place, as he likes to change it up every few weeks and chooses new fav places to sleep. Now I’m just more worried. At least we are going to the vet in not too long.

[Svandis]

I found the name for it here in norway and i’d have to take the bus in to the city (20 min) to get it.. I’ll just keep an eye on him and wait for the appointment.

[Monkeybun]

Try to get him moving around though, if you can. It might help. Even if you have to nudge him along and walk behind him.

[Svandis]

I’ll do that right now.

[Roberta]

Hang in there…. It’s not long to the vet visit and they should ahve lots of info by now. Ring them with updates so they can get more info and get their email so you can send through what you have too.

[Svandis]

I took him into the bathroom with me while i did my delayed morning reutine. I have been “saving” the bathroom for bonding area in case of a new bun, but I figured a new space would entice his curiosity, and it did for about a minute until he settled in a spot. I sat down, and he jumped onto my lap and begged for pets. This is unlike him and he chattered his teeth too which is a sign of pain.. my poor Bosse.

Also when I went to pick him up, I had to get him out of the corner first, and I figured I’d poke him, very carefully. He didn’t react, so I had to had to “slide” him amongst the floor while I held/supported him to get a grip so I could pick him up. He was perfectly still and he would never ever let me do anything like that if he were feeling fine..

[Svandis]

Thanks, I’ll do that!

[Svandis]

I have mailed them with some info on bosses diet and current condition as well as one of the links, and the girl I talked to said that she would inform the vet and seemed very positive and was glad I sent the mail. I would never have thaught of this myself, I’m so grateful to have a place to turn to here on BB.

[LittlePuffyTail]

How is Bosse doing now?

[Svandis]

Pretty much the same. He has moved to his little hidey house though. He is clearly trying to push his tummy towards the floor..

[Svandis]

Ugh, I talked to the actual vet. Turns out he is a really really firm, grouchy old man. Atleast by the sound of it. But they are calling and checking with a very rabbit savvy vet office close to the capital, Oslo. That is calming.

[Svandis]

Leaving now, wish us luck.

[Roberta]

Keeping you in my thoughts. Sounds like he is grumpy but thorough. Good sign.

[bullrider76543]

Sending healing vibes, Please let us know how Bosse is doing!!

[Svandis]

Thank you guys!
They were really not rabbit savvy, but they had done research and called around. I came there and they mumbled between themselves that they couldn’t really feel anything in/on his tummy, didn’t get a clear view of his molars, didn’t ask me any questions besides “has he eaten today”, nothing about poop etc. They didn’t include me in anything, I just heard them mention something about anesthesia and i just started sobbing, thinking of mathias. I asked them a bunch of questions to get them to include me, and after that it got better. I think they just thaught i was another clueless bunny-owner. After I had stated a few things about his diet and about the pearl poop etc, they started including me a bit more, but I had to ask them about everything they were doing. They gave him gas anesthesia and were very careful with it (thank god), and they knew what they were doing so far. They have experience with rabbits, just not with stasis/indigestion.

They couldn’t feel any blockages in his tummy and basicly said that he had nothing or very little in his system. They gave him critical care mixed with something to help his digestion, and showed me how to syringe feed him. I was in there for almost two hours. They checked his pee, his teeth, tried to get a stool sample which they kind of got, barely, and it showed eggs. So he probably has parasites or larvas. Ironic since parasites is what I got him checked for at my vet a month ago (which they said he was clear of btw), but she only took fur samples.

So basicly, the first half hour was pure terror! The rest of the appointment was very nice actually. One of the ladies had a bunny herself and we shared a lot of experiences. It was nice and reassuring. I’m just wondering if the anesthesia was nessecery?

They gave me two packs of critical care and two syringes of the thing to stimulate his intestans.

Bosse is now sitting in his corner in the cage and i’m going to get him to move around a bit soon, and give him more critical care and the other stuff later. He has had two nibbles of his salad but that is it since he got home.. He pooped but it was super tiny soft poop. Just 8 poops i think.

is there anything else I should do? anything the vet did wrong or forgot to think about/mention?

I’m going back tomorrow or thursday so they can check on him, and give him a shot for the parasites/larvas. they didn’t say what it was..

[Roberta]

They probably need to examine the eggs to ascertain exactly what the parasite is so will tell you when you go back. So glad you could get some help and even though they are not rabbit savvy it sounds like they are doing a really good job. Lots of vibes for you and Bosse.

[Roberta]

Been watching for updates. Hope you and Bosse are doing OK and he is feeling a bit better.

[Svandis]

Thanks. He is not doing a lot better.. He swallows some of the critical care, but then just stops swallowing. Gonna be doing many small meals for the rest of the day and going back tomorrow for a backup check. They said if he is not better tomorrow they might want to do an x-ray on him, or put him under anesthesia again to check him out. He hasn’t peed since that little wee at the vets, and only had a mini poo session after the vets. I’m still very worried.
Gonna syringe feed him pure water too, since the critical care mix isn’t enough hydration I think.
The vets office has called two times today to hear how he is doing, so they really care and thats good.

[Svandis]

Bosse is doing better now. He has moved around a little and I have gotten some fluid in him. No poops or pees yet though! I’m really worried.
I brought Pelle (our guinea pig) out to play with Bosse. They are not completely bonded yet so I was a bit hesistant to bring him out in case ut would just stress B out, but they actually had a good time (and still are), and it got B moving around a little
Crossing my fingers for poops or pees very soon.

[Roberta]

He may still have been a bit woozy from the anesthia yesterday, but I think it’s good they used it. He would probably have been very stressed by the long examination and being alseep they would have had a better opportunity to really check out his tummy etc. Keeping fingers crossed for a pee and poop fest very soon.

[LittlePuffyTail]

Wishing you luck for your vet visit.

(((((Bosse)))))

[Svandis]

They took and x-ray and figured out that his colon was full to the brim. So now it fluids all the way and no food, and we’ll see. They gave him fluids under the skin aswell so it would def. be picked up by the colon. I’m just still so worried, he isn’t doing much better… This is day three of almost no eating, no drinking and nearly no poop/pee. They gave him a small enema aswell. It helped a liiiiittle bit, but not a whole lot. We were there for over two hours, they are really dedicated to get him better. They have been talking to rabbit vets over in Finland etc, so I am confident in them even though they are not experienced with rabbits.

We have also gotten orders to chase B around to get him moving. Earlier today he straight out refused to move. We ticled him under the belly, lifted his back feet up, his front, pushing him by the bum etc, he would just NOT MOVE. Gave him some water and he moved a little after that. He seems a little better tonight. It’s 22:17, and earlier me and the BF just passed out on the couch, both drooling. We have just been worrying so much and gotten so tired.

Going back again tomorrow. Not reeeally sure what the vets have planned for tomorrow, but Im gonna call them an give them a check up on him first thing tomorrow, then we’ll see. They said they might want to keep him there for a few hours if I would just drop him off, but I’m not so sure what more they can do at this point.

[Svandis]

They were also playing around with the idea of Pelle (the guinea pig) might have had something when he came to us, that he could have passed along to B.. Referring to the eggs in the poo. But so far neither of us have a clue.

Oh an by no food, I mean no solid foods and not a lot of critical care (has to be really watered out), and he will have hay awailable ofc.

[Roberta]

Hi Svandis, Keeping you and Bosse in my thoughts. Whilst there has been no major improvement there has also been no decline and it sounds like they are looking for every possible solution. I keep thinking maybe in this instance using non savvy vets may be a distinct advantage as rather than fall back on existing knowledge and possibly missing something they are looking into every avenue. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for a poop fest today.

[LittlePuffyTail]

Poor little guy. I’m thinking of you both. Really wish there was something I could do to help. Please let us know what the vet says.

(((((Bosse- poo vibes)))))

[Svandis]

Bosse is doing so much better! He has started to drink a little, he is eating heaps of hay. There has been poop – normal shape and size, but still not too much. He is a lot more active and is super cuddly and playful. I’ve missed his energy. Went back to the vet this morning to give him a shot for the eggs they found in his poop. The vets took an x-ray again just for their own curiousity, to compaire with the x-ray they took the other day, no charge. They are really cheap, and they go really out of their way to help their patients. And I agree with you Roberta, I think it might have been a good thing that they were not rabbit-savvy, so they did the extra research and were very thorough.
They said that they don’t think they’ve been so ingaged thinking about any of their other patients before haha, and they totally fell in love with him. He was grooming him all the time. One of them had rabbits herself at home, but none as friendly as Bosse I was such a proud Bunny mommy!

[Svandis]

just a tiny puddle of pee yet, and we’re hoping for more
Thank you so much for your well wishes!

[Svandis]

Just thought id update – Bosse is going turbo! He’s zooming and binkying like no tomorrow, I’m so happy that he’s back to his fun-loving self. He’s just playing around. No pee yet and not a lot of poop though. We are positive as long as he keeps moving around.
He is so contact seeking today aswell.

[Roberta]

If Bosse is on the move I’d say it won’t be long. Check about, he might be having a sly pee somewhere else after all the disruption of being unwell. Is he drinking yet ?

[Svandis]

Yes, he is drinking
We think that there miiight be a tiny pee spot in the litter box

[Svandis]

There has def. been pee! Just found a large puddle in his litter box

[Roberta]

Yay !!!!!!!!!!! I think you’re new back up vet may need chocolate !

[LittlePuffyTail]

I`m glad to hear about the zooms and binkies!!!!

[Svandis]

I will def. be back there in case of emergency! Much much cheeper than my regular vet (although she is a pro).
Thank you guys for the support!

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