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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > HOUSE RABBIT Q & A > ugh did i make a horrible mistake?!?! also is this a sign of mites???
Last Post by lifeasweknowit at 11/11/2012 7:17 AM (24 Replies)
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User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 2:55 PM

so if you read my previous thread: i got the holland lop. the woman seemed nice but insisted that "the rabbit should be fine" when i asked if it was okay if i emailed her if she got sick. but other than that she seemed friendly. 

but now i feel like i made some horrid mistake! i feel really bad for my other rabbit! he is SUCH a sweetheart, and i dont want that to change! he loves to flop near me/ next to me and begs for pets all the time, i really dont want that to change with the new rabbit! ugh   before i got her i thought "oh my current rabbit will like having a bunny friend" and ugh i just dont want him to change! BUT HERE IS THE OTHER THING: before i adopted him he lived in a foster home with other rabbits but i dont think they were bonded? so i dont know how he will act when he has an actual bonded bunny friend  i feel selfish! i am selfish, but im really protective over my pets, and i want them to be as happy as possible but i also want them to be the same 

also, the rabbit seems awfully small for 7 weeks, if you think you can tell me around what age she is i will post a picture! i mean i have never seen a baby rabbit before in real life, ever LOL except once at a pet store but it was like for 30 seconds. and they were all different breeds. and i will take her to the vet for a checkup but i have some concerns:

1) there is a small red dot (almost like a scab) in the corner of her left eye, at first i thought it was slight discharge but it is a tiny scab, i thought maybe she scratched herself? her nails were EXTREMELY sharp, but i clipped them all right when i got home. but the scab is like the size of a needle point

2) i was feeling around on her body for ticks or anything (her ears and the rest of her body seems free of mites and insects and no discharge from the eyes or nose and teeth look normal and there is no poo stuck to her bottom or anything) and there was a small hard bump on the back of her neck so i thought it was a tick but i looked and i didnt see anything but i saw s weird scab? its not big but yeah.

also her skin seems kind of flaky, just a little. is that normal? i will include pictures of her eye, neck (so you can see the bump) and just her fur parted so you can barely see the skin flakes.

(i will add the pictures as a reply) 


User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 3:02 PM

sorry its sideways im actually surprised i know how to upload a picture LOL anyway so the quality stinks cause the picture has to be 500KB or less but you get the idea! there's the red dot near its eye

there is the small dot on it's neck - ignore my gross fingers/nails

and there is its skin - it doesnt look THAT flaky i think it looks normal, but there are very few flakes in the skin and i dont know if that's normal or not - you cant really see them but yeah


User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 3:05 PM
ALSO, ugh i feel so dumb i dont know if i want the rabbit now? i mean I WANT IT but i DONT want my current rabbit to just forget about me and not flop next to me and not beg for pets! so nervous and concerned and worried. when i first got my rabbit i had doubts but soon realized that i did want to keep him. but ugh i wont give her away (or at least the breeder claims its a girl - will have to double check at the vet) but im just worried, PLUS if she is sick/ infested i would be paranoid for my dog and rabbit beyond belief

User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 3:24 PM
Stop beating yourself up... Worst case scenario is you now have a little rabbit who is guaranteed a safe and healthy life for being in your care. OK the start might be a bit bumpy but you're on the journey now and there's no going back. You should call it Lucy if a girl or Lucky if a boy I have an entire bonded family and whilst they adore each other they still love cuddles with Slave when I sit in the play pen with the or bring the into the lounge so I would not fret about loosing the affection of your other bun. He might ignore you for a little while during the bonding but if they bond once it's all settled they will no doubt both love you equally.
I couldn't see the scab by the eye but the one on the back does look like mites, which if they have been bred outdoors and in cramped condition is not surprising and given that the healthiest most spoiled buns can get mites and recover unscathed I would not be too paranoid. Get to the vet for a check up where they can treat it. If your other pets are treated regularly then it is unlikely it will spread to the especially if you are quarantining Lucky Lucy for the first week or so. As to size, I think Hollands are small, most of mine are mid size but I will try to find a baby photo at 12 weeks of Pepper. She is a Silver Martin and the smallest (she is also the alpha bun)
Can we see some pics of your new buns pretty face too ?
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User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 3:31 PM
thanks for the kind words, i really appreciate them! and the scab near the eye is like at the very end of it (hard to see) and aw cute names! but lucy was my dolls name so i dont know about that! haha but thanks for the suggestions! and thanks that makes me feel better, hopefully that will be the case with my rabbits, if the bonding is a success like 5-6 months later LOL (after spaying + a month for the hormones to die down)

i have noo idea how / what her old home was like, but i can imagine it to be cramped and dirty for many reasons. since my usual vet is on maternity leave i shall contact another vet that is on the rabbit.org first thing tomorrow morning! and where should i put the new bunny? i do have a dog! who is sneaky but not a threat. and thanks! and sure i can post some pictures! i just cant wait to call the vet and make an appointment

User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 3:32 PM
OK, can now see the tiny dot by the eye. I think you are right that she may have scratched it. It's very tiny.
I am going to add some pics of my babies in age groups to try and give you some size perspective. They will be of Pepper and Piglet on rescue day and their OOPS babies. I am not a breeder not do I condone it. The stress of seeing my Pepper nest and give birth, then raising the babies only to have to find homes for them with strangers left me so stressed and heart broken I could never do it again nor would I encourage any one to do it. Your little boy is neutered ? If not make sure he is before you try to bond them. Do not even risk the possibility of your new little girl getting pregnant !!!!
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User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 3:33 PM
thanks and yes he is! i adopted him from a rescue

User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 4:22 PM

This is at about 3 days old.

  This is about 2 weeks. That's a seeding try they are in.

  Same tray at 3 weeks

This is about 4-5 weeks.. You can see their ears developing and setting upright where as babies the ears were still floppy things that tended to stay close to their heads.Unless they are lops then you might start to see the ears beginning to drop.

I am trying to select pictures that give you some scale of growth and development. For other members it's tempting to Ooh and Aah over these pics but seriously, you do not want to go through  the stress of an oops litter. Don't even be tempted to "just have one".

It's not worth it! Aside from the stress there is the expense of food etc. They eat like Trojans and Pepper trebled her food intake to keep up her milk production, not to mention vet costs, accommodation and the rest.

Coming up to 7 weeks, note the development in the ears again. Fully formed and upright. A lops ears would almost be completely dropped.

  Nine weeks

Finally at 12 weeks. Both girls are now mid sized and slightly bigger than their mother Pepper. You can see them in the November Photo Thread, Blossom is sitting on the top shelf by the window and Pepper is right down the bottom on the floor under the shelves.

Hope this helps.... I will only leave it a few days then delete it as we have strict forum rules about posting baby bunny pics.

 


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User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 4:28 PM
Now... Where to house your little girl temporarily... What options are available ? Are there other rooms you can set up a temp habitat ? Does your other bun currently have his own room or is he in one of the other rooms in the house ?
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User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 4:33 PM
Names again - How about Zortea... It's Basque for Lucky or Bahati, which is Swahili for Lucky.
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User is Offline tanlover14
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11/10/2012 4:34 PM
I have to piggy-back on exactly what Roberta is saying.

I would definitely have a rabbit-savvy vet check the new bun out ASAP.

Also, I don't think you should worry so much about your bun not loving you as much as before... During the bonding process the buns would sometime ignore me while trying to figure each other out but they are still VERY much friendly with both my boyfriend and I and always flopping down next to us. And they get insanely jealous if one bun is getting pets and they're not -- they'll come running over and nudge and headbut until you give them pets too! And I have THREE bonded bunnies so they really have no need for a human slave loving. I feel your pain and was worried to but after bonding and going back to a normal schedule they will constantly be all over you and want to spend time with you also! Give your buns a chance, I think you'll be surprised!

Not to mention, bonded buns are the most ADORABLE things ever. And my three will all flop down next to me and hang out so REALLY try not to be too worried but I understand the feeling!
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User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 4:39 PM
ah sorry i took a quick trip to walmart in hopes of finding a small litterbox but to no avail, so i will just make do with a cardboard box tonight and go to petsmart tomorrow and call the vet. ah maybe she was right and it is around the 7 week age range! i will post pictures tonight!

my bun lives in my room, i was thinking of putting up an old dog crate (his old cage) for the new bun's home - they arent close to each other but they are in the same room so if she has mites! im very worried. the dining room is open but i have a dog who might scare her and the loud noises and openness might scare her. i think it will be okay if i house her in my room? my current rabbit is friendly to other rabbits (he used to live with other rabbits together at his old foster home before i adopted him) and once she gets treated for mites (if she does have them - which i strongly believe she does unfortunately) then there will be no threat - medically

User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 4:45 PM
I think it should be fine as long as they are kept from direct contact in case of any other conditions until you can check with the vet. As for the mites they can travel on clothing so it would be a good idea to do a preventative treatment on your little man just to be sure.
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User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 5:06 PM
thanks tanlover! that makes me feel so relieved! and ah thanks for the advice, yeah i would be in some hot water if all of my pets got mites!

User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 5:10 PM

sorry most are sideways! and i made a ghetto litter box out of a cardboard box LOL just for tonight!


User is Offline LoveChaCha
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11/10/2012 5:14 PM
For a litter tray, you might find that plastic cat litter boxes will do. My rabbit has an XL sized one.
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User is Offline Roberta
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11/10/2012 5:17 PM
Oh she is lovely.......... LoveChaCha is right.. The cat litter trays are good. They like them full of hay (lined with paper) so they can have bed, breakfast and latrine in the one sitting.
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User is Offline tanlover14
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11/10/2012 5:20 PM
Agreed. We use nothing but cat litter boxes of all different sizes.
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User is Offline lifeasweknowit
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11/10/2012 5:24 PM
yeah i have 3 cat litter boxes for my other rabbit, but they're way too big for my new rabbit, and walmart was out and petsmart was already closed so just for tonight! tomorrow i am going to petsmart and buying a small cat litter box (they used to sell them at wal mart) and call the vet

User is Offline Monkeybun
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11/10/2012 10:33 PM
There's no such things as a too big litter box.. trust me. My 1.5lb nethie Monkey seems to take up as much space as possible in her large cat box.. it goes against the laws of physics, I tell ya.
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