Sitting in the lobby now. Vibes are really needed.

ETA: Thanks JerseyGirl for linking this from the other thread. 

Here's the "backstory": http://www.binkybunny.com/FORUM/tabid/54/aft/122503/Default.aspx#307719

Oh no! {{{{{Lola!}}}}}

Thinking if you.

Vibes for Lola! (((((((((((Vibes)))))))))))
What happened??

Just got home. Lola got subq fluids, meloxicam (metacam) for pain, and metoclopramide (reglan) for motility. She is now on metoclopramide 1mL every 8 hrs and they gave me a little bag of Critical Care - although I wish I would have remembered I had some in the cabinet at home and not paid for it - I was too worried to remember about it.

Long story short - she was fine all day with eating. She had been spending the entire day in her condo - which isn't unusual because that's her space and she is usually there most of the day sleeping. When ~8pm rolled around that's usually her really active time and she was just getting listless - wanted to be on the top shelf of her condo and would just circle the top shelf, flop over, loaf, and then repeat over and over. She poo'ed a couple pearl strings with hair in them so I knew she was backing up. She was also shaking so much she was shaking the entire cage. She wouldn't even touch kale or a treat - and she's NEVER said 'no' to a piece of dried mango. She wouldn't even lap up the baby food mixed with simethicone so I syringe fed her 1mL of it. It didn't help within 30min so we took her. I didn't want to risk it.

We decided not to let her stay over night and I'm hoping that's the right decision - the vet said she thought we caught it early enough that she should be okay but to keep an eye on her. The vet was also a bunny owner so it made me feel A LOT more comfortable that she knew exactly what we were talking about and where we were coming from. As far as the keeping her at home, I figured we know her behavior better than a vet so we could watch her and the emergency vet is literally a 5 minute drive so it would be easy to go back if something went wrong.

There was also another couple in the waiting room with a rabbit going through the same thing - so we regaled our rabbit stories and how it would have been 1000x cheaper to have a dog - but their little faces make up for it!

So - that's that. Here's hoping to an uneventful night with lots of pooping and then veggie eating in the morning....

Hope she feels better. Vibes heading your way!

You can put the critical care in the freezer to extend its shelf life more. Then you can feel more like it isn't being wasted

Poor Lola and poor you!
Well if the vet gave you metaclop then likely as not she didn't find a blockage. Were xrays taken?
Deffo keep an eye (I know you will) because they can deteriorate so quickly during stasis episodes.
The fluids should help move things and hydrate her gut. Did the vet show you how to do these? It's a good thing to know how to do yourself just in case (of course you need the equipment too.)
You're on top of things to be sure and that's great that the ER is so close!
Vibes continuing for a full recovery for Lola!

I know how to do the subq fluids I just don't have the equipment. Assuming she is okay in the next 48 hours I'm still going to take her to her normal vet just to be sure and ask if I can get some for situations like this --- because I know she isn't near done shedding so I'm guessing this won't be the last time this happens.

And no x-rays yet - we talked about it with the vet and she said if she had to come in again they would do it.

She's just in her cage grooming now which I hate but I don't think there is a way to get her to stop. It's just an obsessive thing right now -- I don't know if there's any way to get her to stop outside of going to get one of those neck cones which I don't know if it's safe or not.....

Without a doubt I would have chosen to bring her home also. She should be less stressed in her own environment. You definitely want to minimise stresses when they're not well.

I'm so happy to read you got a bunny loving vet.

More {{{vibes}}}. I hope you have a perky little bunny soon.

((VIBES)) Keep us updated!

((Feel better vibes for Lola))

(((((((vibes for Lola))))))))

So - I got up extra early this morning because I had a work event I couldn't get out of.  There were poos that looked like this in her cage and this was all of them.  So she went but I wouldn't even count as going...but at least she is passing SOMETHING.

Lola got her first dose of Metoclopramide and I syringe fed Critical Care (hollllly messy mouth!) at about 7am.  She would nibble at greens if I hand fed them to her but only a few pieces...  It took her almost an entire hour to poop some more which is really unusual.  She's usually waiting at her condo door to be let out so she can use her favorite potty box.  I brushed her really well to try to get most of the loose hair out.  She did a few binkies and then we had to leave for 4 hours.  

We just got back and she had another dose of Critical Care.  She seems to be feeling a little better and just looks happier and will actually come out of her cage - but she isn't drinking that much and isn't pooing as much as usual. But at least she is going! 

So that's where it stands.  Still need vibes because we aren't out of the woods yet.

"Mommmm...I no feels good. Make it betterrrr."

oh i hope she is okay

Lola hasn't pooped in ~10 hours.  At what point should we get concerned again and take her back to the vet?


She did eat extra watered down greens tonight and when I force fed her some Critical Care I put extra water in it to make sure she was getting some fluids.  She is munching on hay.  And hopping around the room - but just seems to get tired more easily and she has started biting which makes me think she is just really uncomfortable.

Posted By bmt87 on 11/10/2012 01:34 PM
So - I got up extra early this morning because I had a work event I couldn't get out of.  There were poos that looked like this in her cage and this was all of them.  So she went but I wouldn't even count as going...but at least she is passing SOMETHING.

Lola got her first dose of Metoclopramide and I syringe fed Critical Care (hollllly messy mouth!) at about 7am.  She would nibble at greens if I hand fed them to her but only a few pieces...  It took her almost an entire hour to poop some more which is really unusual.  She's usually waiting at her condo door to be let out so she can use her favorite potty box.  I brushed her really well to try to get most of the loose hair out.  She did a few binkies and then we had to leave for 4 hours.  

We just got back and she had another dose of Critical Care.  She seems to be feeling a little better and just looks happier and will actually come out of her cage - but she isn't drinking that much and isn't pooing as much as usual. But at least she is going! 

So that's where it stands.  Still need vibes because we aren't out of the woods yet.

"Mommmm...I no feels good. Make it betterrrr."

---pictures do tell alot,, it is excellent that the poop box have grasses,ie timothy,/ orchard,--poops have fur in them,thusly called a string of pearls,--and perhaps some distress-dehydration,,?--here is a medical webside which will help to diagnose problems early-  http://www.medirabbit.com  --the reglyn (metroncloprimide)-will cause some bowel contractions--use carefully perhaps with simethicone-(infant)-feel around the gi tract for lumps,bumps,tummy hard.??-watch for any behavioral change,-try to monitor eating of grasses,water--use a scale and weigh every 4 hours if needed--that means a running log for medical history..--sounds like you are doing a fine job,--sincerely james waller

The BB recommendation is that if they haven't pooped in 12 hours, take them to a vet. It's also the weekend, but I think you have an ER nearby? Yes? Eating though is a good sign, it's when they stop eating that it's time to be VERY concerned. Have you given any more simethicone? ((BIG VIBES))

Yes she went to the emergency vet last night at about 9pm. So this is about the time last night and the night before when things went down hill too.... She went last night because she stopped eating...which is why right now I'm like "welllll, you are eating....but please, please, please poop. please."

Haven't given any more simethicone - I didn't know if i could give it with the reglan?

Sorry, I don't know the answer to that one. Have you tried tummy massages? Get her moving? Even if it's just some hops around the room?

Yep - getting tummy massages and we keep trying to get her to hop around which is why she is biting....she doesn't like when she doesn't have clear access to her cage and I've been sitting in her way to encourage her to stay out and hop around.

Oh god, that little Lola face. Healing vibes for your gorgeous girl! <3

We have poops! 9 of them! 11 hours later...

Yay for poops! All of us bunny owners sure do know the joys of seeing poop!

She probably wasn't drinking because she had subQ fluids.
Glad you're seeing output again. The delay *may* have been purely because food she had eaten since treatment hadn't made its passage thru the digestive tract yet. The fact she was eating was (and is) great.

Yay for poops!!!!!

How is Lola today? (((((Lola))))

Lola is doing MUCH better this morning and I am hoping it lasts the entire day --- around 8pm is when she has gone down hill the past few days.

She ate all her greens (~1.5 cups of mix kale, parsley, dandelion, and cilantro) and pooped all over her cage this morning! Still not as much as normal - but it's a start! My boyfriend's brother and his friends stayed last night so at first I was worried that it would stress her out but it ultimately being really good for her...their stuff lying around everywhere gave her a reason to hop around and explore. She was too nosy to stay in her cage and wanted to hop all over their stuff and sniff them so I think the hopping around helped. She also got another good brushing this morning.

Fingers crossed!

Glad to hear it!!! (((((More Get Well Vibes)))))

So on top of all this - I noticed when Lola was laying on her belly that she is also developing sore hocks.... 

I can't make this stuff up....  

I don't know what's going on and feel like we've done something so wrong.  She has a perfect diet that's completely by HRS guidelines and a completely carpeted and cushy cage. She isn't overweight - 5.2 lbs.  She's never on hard surfaces except when she is laying on her belly on the bottom of our bookshelf....

I just want to cry.  This is making me feel like an awful bunny parent.

You can see in the picture that the pink skin is showing.  It's not broken open yet....

Advice? Suggestions? Could it be because she is shedding?  Or because she has been sitting in the "loaf" position for almost 4 days straight because of the Stasis?

On the brightside we just had another fresh batch of relatively normal looking bunny poos.... 

Yay for poo!

Her feet actually look normal to me. If its a healthy pink and just looks like a callous then I think that's normal IMO. Some buns have that. Not a bad idea to keep a check on it from time to time.

Oh no! I'm so sorry you and Lola are going through this, sending good vibes!

Posted By bmt87 on 11/11/2012 08:07 PM

So on top of all this - I noticed when Lola was laying on her belly that she is also developing sore hocks.... 

I can't make this stuff up....  

I don't know what's going on and feel like we've done something so wrong.  She has a perfect diet that's completely by HRS guidelines and a completely carpeted and cushy cage. She isn't overweight - 5.2 lbs.  She's never on hard surfaces except when she is laying on her belly on the bottom of our bookshelf....

I just want to cry.  This is making me feel like an awful bunny parent.

You can see in the picture that the pink skin is showing.  It's not broken open yet....

Advice? Suggestions? Could it be because she is shedding?  Or because she has been sitting in the "loaf" position for almost 4 days straight because of the Stasis?

On the brightside we just had another fresh batch of relatively normal looking bunny poos.... 

---yes,--the fur is worn down,--start monitoring her weight--this pink spot-(hock)- may get worse depending on weight,or hard running surface,--here is the webite fr becoming a poopologist  http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/sickbun.html  --sincerely james waller