Thanks so much for all the great advice! Sorry for the late reply- as always, any bunny crisis always falls on either my busiest workday or holiday. Things are pretty much the same here with BunBun- he's pretty good all day, then evening hits and he starts humping! Actually, I should clarify that he never really gets to the humping point- he usually begins with romantic (and vigorous) grooming to Nell's ears, then works his way to her butt, maybe pulls a tuft or two of fur, then tries to hop aboard- at that point, Nelli exits the scene. But Bun is persistent- he follows her around and makes repeated attempts. Nelli STILL hasn;t learned to run when she sees him coming toward her- maybe because they have nice, peaceful days together cuddling.
Sarita, I think it would be a good idea to get bloodwork done too, just in case something is off. I was very worried about an adrenal gland tumor the 1st time this humping thing happened, but have somewhat ruled it out because I don't think the behavior would go away in that case. However, it's still possible and at Bun's age (4 1/2) baseline bloodwork would be a good idea anyway- at a better vet, I think!
RabbitPam, thanks for reminding me of the Vet List- I'll check it out again. Problem is that all the vets are at least an 50-60 minutes away, and Bun gets SO scared in the car. He drools too, which makes me think he feels sick, poor thing. But I'm gonna get some Rescue Remedy and hopefully that will help, cuz our current vet, though he's only 15 minutes away, isn't much help so far! About the hiding, he finally got back to his more sociable self yesterday, and today has been out all day. I think that all the handling and the vet visit really terrified him and he didn't wanna take the chance on mean old me catching him again
. His appetite is better too- so now it's just the humping AND one more thing- I noticed that he's shaking his head sometimes, esp. when he gets up. He had an ear infection w/ head tilt in May- I wonder if that could be causing all this crazy stuff?! Humping doesn't seem like a symptom but you never know I guess. And I remember BB telling me about Jack having that humping issue too- I watched the videos and they were absolutely hilarious- but I also could see how BB was at her wit's end with it! And he did have that bladder stone, so in his case it was at least partly health related.
Izrddr, I appreciate your input- 25 years of treating rabbits is a lot
! It's good to hear that UTI's aren't really common in rabbits. Makes me think that the strange peeing habits of Bun are related more to sludge than an infection. Y'know, I was wondering if the Baytril course I gave just coincided with the behavior improving, and didn;t really cure anything! I know that animals don't fall for the "placebo effect", but us humans tend to do regarding our pets. It just feels "safer" to be doing something than nothing, but if this is behavioral, meds might just make it worse. And sub q's won;t hurt physically, but the handling stresses Bun and might make him act worse. Ugh- no easy fix here!
Jerseygirl, that's interesting that bacteria isn;t always the cause for bladder infections. I know that the irritation of sludge crystals can make bunnies suspectibleto UTI- I think that's why vets prescribe antibiotics with really bad sludge cases. Actually, Bun was really taking a long tie to pee a couple weeks ago- he looked uncomfortable too. He did improve, but he's always leaving little puddles outside his box and the other day I watched him pee and it was only dribbling out, rather than a normal stream of urine. That's why I was surprised that the culture came back negative- but then all that could be from sludge. So your bunny Rumball has a humping issue too? That makes sense that he does it more when they're in close quarters, probably more temptation for him! Bun and Nelli are both free range 24/7 with no cage, so I don;t know what outside factors trigger the behavior- except nighttime and sometimes, my presence! Seems that they're fine, then I appear and Bun starts rght up!
K&K, thank you for that info- it helps me understand things better. I will ask for more details on the culture results- I read that sometimes infection shows up by presence of blood and white blood cells in the urine too- I wanted to ask about that too. You made a good point too that all individuals have different thresholds for the amount of bacteria that constitutes an infection. Tomorrow I'll call the vet- I'm going to ask for the # of the exotics specialist he mentioned too.
So at this point, I'm going to continue trying to figure out what could be triggering this behavior in BunBun, and separating the bunnies if Nell seems to be getting exhuasted or upset. I don't feel that this is an urgent situation since Bun is eating, pooping and acting normally (and peeing almost normally, since Bun is always strange like that). However, I am going to find a good exotic vet that is very experienced with rabbits to look Bun over thoroughly. The fact that he's shaking his head makes me wonder now too- but I might just be parinoid! Thanks again so much for all your help