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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > HOUSE RABBIT Q & A > Evil cat trying to kill my bunnies!
Last Post by lindsay715 at 10/16/2012 7:16 AM (32 Replies)
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User is Offline Ackattack
Berea, Ohio
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10/12/2012 10:47 AM

Very long story short, I moved into a house with cheaper rent. The house is shared among friends and college grad students. The landowner is a grad student like myself. We signed a lease allowing us to move in with our bunnies. However, they day of signing the lease she decides to save a stray cat's life off the street and neuters. it. Now I have two bunnies in my room, and a cat that prowls the house.

The landowner is never home, so the cat is never punished nor has anything better to do but to stalk my bunnies. It sits outside my door waiting for an opening to sprint into my room and go to the cage. Thankfully I have always kept the bunnies in the cage when opening the door (door is a sliding door making it more difficult to keep the cat out). 

Water doesn't work. The cat is completely immune to water. The cat is fully squated in a pounce position at all times near the door or (occasionally) sneaks in the door. I have resulted to physically spanking the cat's rear end and chasing it away as the only option (which in turn makes the landlord upset when she sees). I have anxiety issues when it comes to this because the cat is also not de-clawed, and I know it is just waiting for the opportunity to kill my bunnies.It's very annoying and nerve-wrecking and the lease has been signed for a year. The landlord is also a "friend" which further makes the situation annoying. Being a college student I haven't been able to save up money for the so called "scat mat" to keep the cat away. Does anyone have any other home remedies to keep the cat away from the bunnies. I have absolutely no intention of taking the risk and allowing the cat to "bond" with the bunnies since it is not de-clawed and was technically once upon a time a feral. Another thing I saw is powder that creates a scentless (to humans) smell of coyote and fox urine which scares away cats. But I don't want to terrify my bunnies either.


User is Offline Sarita
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10/12/2012 10:59 AM
Honestly cats and rabbits can get along just fine. I would not spank the cat as that is not the proper way to handle this - he is doing what comes naturally and is not being naughty.

Maybe you could try to make friends with the cat. I rarely hear of a cat bothering a domestic rabbit - he may just be curious. He's probably just more curious about the rabbits than trying to be threatening.

User is Offline Roberta
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10/12/2012 3:02 PM
Luna and Finn Gall regularly watch the buns in a squat like they are stalking. Generally they just love to watch them play. The minute one of the buns binkies close though they take off. They like to watch but don't want to get too close to these strange long eared beasts. Finn Gall has sat at the Xpen with his paws through the bars but not trying to touch, almost like he was asking to play. Piglet binkied over all excited and it just got too much for Finn who bolted in terror.
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User is Offline LBJ10
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10/12/2012 3:46 PM
Have you tried just letting the cat see the bunnies? I'm thinking the novelty might wear off after awhile if the cat is allowed to see them. My cat would always do that with something new. He would be so determined to get near it and see it. Once the novelty wore off though, he would lose interest.

User is Offline Mimzy
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10/12/2012 5:18 PM


My cat does exactly the same thing, but he's pretty easy to chase off. If I see him creep by my door if its open, I just yell his name & he freaks out & runs. The door is only ever open if mimzy is in her cage though. Anyway, I agree with letting the cat see the bunnies. That's what I had to do with my dogs so they would calm down. They still are curious at times but they definitely don't wait at the door constantly anymore. Maybe you could somehow make a barrier the cat can see through but can't get over. If you have any nic grids, I think you could do this fairly easy. A gate won't do much since it can probably just jump over
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User is Offline Ackattack
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10/12/2012 5:22 PM
Hahaha, Murasaki, I didn't think of that. No airsoft gun available though.

To everyone else,

One time completely on accident, we locked the cat inside the room when going for a walk. The cat probably snuck into the room and hid under the bed when we were not looking. After coming back from the walk the cat was outside the cage inches away from the bunnies inside. Intrigued, we were watching the cat, wondering if it wanted to just be friends or at the very least interact with them in a non-aggresive way. Once the bunnies moved in any manner, the cat reached in the cage and attempted to claw them. Thats when we broke up the situation and pulled the cat away. The cat would also do this when he ran in. He would immediately crouch outside of the cage and put his paw inside and start swiping away. I guess... not in an aggressive manner, more like....... what would happen if my claws sink into this thing that is moving. So I am more worried... what would happen if my bunnies were not in the cage. Hence the idea for a "safe" cat repellent for my room. I don't hate the cat. Just overprotective of my buns.

User is Offline RabbitPam
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10/13/2012 3:09 AM

You may want to try Sarita's suggestion and do a supervised introduction of the animals for a limited time to get them to accept each other as part of the household. Also, I am wondering if the cat can be confined to "his" room at times during the day as well. Does he need the run of the whole house necessarily?
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User is Offline Ackattack
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10/13/2012 5:06 AM
I wished the cat didn't need to run the whole house, but the landlord / roommate is around maybe twice a week and claims it is not good to keep a cat locked into one area. Annoying.

I wouldn't mind the supervised introduction but I have read elsewhere how fast a cat can sink their fangs into the carotid artery of a rabbit and instantly kill it in seconds. Even with being there something like this could happen - not something I am willing to risk.

User is Offline RabbitPam
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10/13/2012 7:11 AM
I don't blame you, though many here have cats cohabiting with bunnies. I have also read that in a fight between a rabbit and a cat, the rabbit would win because a kick from hind legs would send the cat flying before it got anywhere near the bunny's neck.

So, I think it may be time for a friendly sit down discussion with your roomate/landlord and explain that it is concerning you greatly since you didn't know a cat was going to be involved when you agreed to the living arrangement. Maybe a good talk between you will find some middle ground and house rules you both can live with.
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User is Offline ScooterandAnnette
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10/13/2012 8:24 AM
My cats get along fine with the bunnies. Every now and then one of them will try to play with the bunnies - it'll get down into crouch position and then spring and bat at the bunny - and that lasts about 2 seconds and then they're bored. They are fascinated by the bunnies though. Well 2 of them are, one of them is deathly afraid of the bunnies. I say let the cat see and get used to the bunnies, that way they'll be less of a novelty. Keep in mind that even if it was used to hunting as a feral cat, domestic pet bunnies are a different species than wild rabbits - they can't breed together, and from what I understand they smell different to other animals. We look at them and say "oh, bunny", a cat looks at it and doesn't recognize it as being the same as the wild bunnies (because it's not).

And no cat should EVER be declawed. It's a horrible, inhumane thing to do to a cat and many vets won't even do it anymore (thankfully). Look at your hands and think about how one would have to go about "de-nailing" you permanently - they'd have to amputate the tips of your fingers. That's exactly what they do to cats - they amputate the toes which permanently maims the cat.
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User is Offline Sarita
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10/13/2012 9:50 AM
I'm with Scooter and Annette on this. I have a friend who ran a guinea pig rescue out of her home with cats and never a problem. Domestic animals and wild animals are very different. I'm pretty sure some of her cats where semi-feral as well.

And one of the rabbit rescues I helped at had cats all the time.

It's just normally really not an issue at all.

User is Offline Ackattack
Berea, Ohio
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10/13/2012 11:01 AM
Unfortunately the friendly discussion with the landlord didn't go to well as she said I should just get rid of my bunnies. So that won't be an option :/

Keep in mind that even if it was used to hunting as a feral cat, domestic pet bunnies are a different species than wild rabbits - they can't breed together, and from what I understand they smell different to other animals. We look at them and say "oh, bunny", a cat looks at it and doesn't recognize it as being the same as the wild bunnies (because it's not).


That is really useful information that I never really took into consideration. Thank you. Maybe I will start with letting the cat at least "view" the bunnies from a distance while they are in the cage supervised and go from there.I still don't like the cat close to them as like I stated earlier, the cat just begins swating at them through the cage with its claws. I also know that cats claws have multitudes of bacteria and if the claws cut the skin of a rabbit, can lead to abscess formation of Pastuerella (which both of my bunnies are on constant antibiotics for).

User is Offline Bones
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10/13/2012 9:30 PM
Some of my cats did that when I first started introducing them to my rabbits. I would make a loud shh noise and spray them with water and if they did not stop they would get locked out of my room. Now my cats and rabbits are really good together even my 3 feral cats are fine with the rabbits. I also keep my cats (except the feral ones) nails clipped to make sure that the cats will not be able to scratch the rabbits if they do decide to try to play with them.

User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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10/14/2012 2:43 AM
Have you considered soft paws for the cat? They are little gel nail tips that are a humane alternative to declawing. It would make the cat safer around the bunnies as you wouldn't have the sharp claws to worry about. Maybe your landlord would consider this. They are not very expensive.
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User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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10/14/2012 3:37 AM
Is to a feral cat or a pet cat?

I have never seen a cat straight up attack and "sink their fangs" in an animal. Cats play with their food, even feral ones. And an adult rabbit can hold its own with a cat I'm sure, in the wild really the only bunny pray on the menu would be baby cottentails.

Anyway, if its feral, call animal patrol and have them trap and take it. If its her pet, tell her again she needs to keep her cat out of your house, friend or not I'm sure it's against some tenant law and if it comes in, trap it and take it to the pound or drop it off at her house.

Any chance you can get something like this- http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Mesh-Ha...creen+door , it might keep the cat out.

Please do NOT shoot an animal, I don't care if its legal it is inhumane and cruel.

User is Offline Ackattack
Berea, Ohio
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10/14/2012 8:10 AM
ok let me re-summarize because it seems people are a little confused.

The cat is a feral cat in which my landlord saved off the streets and is domesticating. The cat is people friendly, but has attempted on many occasions to pounce and swat at my bunnies.

I have holland lops approx 4 months of age that are less than 3 pounds. The cat is 5 times their size. The bunnies do not stand a chance against the cat. They simply run when the cat makes a sudden move at them causing the cat to chase.

I have a sliding door to my room. No renovations can be made to the house due to the landlord's will.

The landlord wants the cat to run around at free.

Yesterday I tried to get the cat use to the bunnies by having the bunnies in the cage and the cat outside. At first the cat just watched curiously from a pounced position. Then out of nowhere it jumped at the cage full force and put its paw in the cage and started swiping at my bunnies. Thus, attempting to make friends is not high on the list.


What I am looking for is a way to keep the cat away from my room that isn't costly so my bunnies lives won't be endangered 24/7 and I can rest peacefully at night. The cat can open the sliding doors with his paws (not dumb) so therefore we have keep the door shut with tape (see the annoyance?)

Is there anything to keep the cat away that is cost effective. The claw magic mesh thing was pretty neat, but I doubt my landlord would be willing to take on such a task since she barely feeds or cleans her cat since she is ALWAYS away. Other roommates are forced to feed and take care of the cat due to her being gone so long.

I saw the scat mat which would be PERFECT. But as a grad school student - I can't afford it. Lease is already signed and I couldn't find loopholes- so I just can't leave and move

User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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10/14/2012 8:21 AM
The magnetic door thing is a no tool say install, so it says, so I'm not sure what your landlord would have to do with it. I've never used it though so I don't know how we'll it'll work, it's just an idea I've got nothing on the cat besides maybe focusing on the fact you'll only be there for a year or 2 tops right? And maybe look for a new place.

User is Offline Ackattack
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10/14/2012 9:23 AM

Right, here for another 10 months. Just would rather not have the additional stress. I just read cats hate the smell of mint and citrus. Maybe if I get a wallflower of either? I know there is a repellent that has fox and coyote urine granules (we can't smell it) but I have a feeling that would also affect the bunnies? Not sure.


User is Offline Stickerbunny
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10/14/2012 9:35 AM
You say the cat bolts into your room through the sliding door, have you thought of a baby gate on the door you could step over? Yes the cat could jump over if he wanted, but he'd be a lot more obvious. Most things I can think of that would keep a cat away would also bother the buns. I typically just use my feet with the cats at my mothers place (feral and non-feral) if I want them to not enter a room (block/push). If your landlord is never home, would you be willing to try clicker training the cat? Give him something to do, teach him a cue that means "STOP" - he might find the buns less interesting.

User is Offline Ackattack
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10/14/2012 11:21 AM

I could look into that. Never heard of clicker training until you mentioned it and I decided to look it up. Maybe I can find a tall enough gate or a gate that he wouldn't be able to climb. I will look into that.

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