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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Oh, Bindi Loo- Very sick this morning
Last Post by RabbitPam at 10/01/2012 2:56 AM (107 Replies)
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User is Offline MimzMum
Interior Alaska
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9/21/2012 12:01 PM
I'm praying for you and Bindi, Steph. Hoping your vet can get that infection under control and get him eating again.
Hang in there. If you need to talk I am here.
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User is Offline Michelle&amp;Lolli
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9/21/2012 12:15 PM
Oh sweetie...I'm so sorry you are going through all this. (((Hugs))) (((Healing vibes for Bindi Loo))) He will be ok and pull through.
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User is Offline Sarita
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9/21/2012 12:25 PM
Sending vibes to Bindi - I hope he is doing better. Hugs Steph.

User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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9/21/2012 1:00 PM
So things are even worse now. The vet thinks he may have EC on top of everything. This afternoon she noticed his eyes darting and a slight tilt to his head. I'm absolutely devastated. He has to stay at the vet's overnight. We just got back from visiting him and he looked so pitiful with a cone on and he's hooked to an IV. He was laying in my arms, looking terribly weak. It was so hard to leave him there but I know it's the best thing for him. I'm trying to stay strong for him. Honestly, I feel numb. I'm just in complete disbelief this is happening.

Vet did bloodwork, everything is good. She was worried about his kidneys if it is EC.

I don't know really anything about EC. What are his chances? Is it likely that if he recovers, he could have a permanent tilt?

I feel like the most unlucky person in the world. There are 2 bunnies missing in my bunny room. Poor Olivia, just looks so lost in there all alone.

Please keep Bindi in your prayers. I'll be hearing from the vet around 9:30 a.m. It's not my rabbit vet working tomorrow but she said she is personally going to go in to care for Bindi. I'm glad for that.
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User is Offline MimzMum
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9/21/2012 1:22 PM
Oh my goodness, Steph, I'm sorry to read this development. :'(
You are correct though, if it is E.C. then he is in the best place where they can get him eating and maintain his fluids and keep meds running through IVs regularly.
Yes, bunnies can live with e. Cuniculi. It is possibly what caused Mimzy's head tilt. It takes intensive nursing care but it can be controlled. It will depend on how Bindi responds to his treatment.
He should be on metacam for pain and swelling, panacur to eradicate the parasite and continue his baytril for now at least to keep secondary infection at bay.
Sadly loppies because of their ears can develop this parasite or inner ear infections that bring on head tilt. Sometimes the tilt resolves and sometimes it doesn't. The first two weeks that Mimzy was ill I wasn't sure he'd make it ...but he's still here and functional. It's been almost four months since he got sick.

I am all for aggressive treatment to tackle this parasite. Testing is liable to be inconclusive since he was already on baytril. But he's already on much of the therapy he will need to beat this.
Sorry if I sound scattered. Typing from my phone so it's hard to post correctly.

Doubling vibes and prayers. My inbox is open if you need me.
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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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9/21/2012 1:26 PM
It's frustrating, like you said there is really no tests that can be done to know for sure. Just like with Stormy.

He's still on the Baytril and Metacam, I believe. Not sure what the med is she is giving him for the possible EC. Will ask tomorrow. I'm hoping that whatever this is, we caught it early enough. I spend a lot of time with Bindi and have never noticed any neurological symptoms. He was already at the vet when they started.

The Dr. mentioned she was going to be aggressive in treating this. This is truly unbearable. Not sure how much my heart and stress level can take.
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User is Offline MimzMum
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9/21/2012 1:32 PM
One more thing...if it os head tilt and he should start rolling, meclazine (Dramamine) is sometimes helpful to keep their balance correct.
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9/21/2012 1:45 PM
Oh, poor Bindi. And poor you Sending vibes your way for a healthy bunny. *hugs*

User is Offline bullrider76543
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9/21/2012 3:38 PM
Good god LPT! That just leaves me speechless... You must be completly devistated. I wish I could send words of comfort, but I am sure you wont be comfotabke till he is back home and well. My wife and I send hugs and prayers your way, and as always we are here if you need anything... Bindi please get better soon!!!
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User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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9/21/2012 3:40 PM
{{{{{{{{{Bindi}}}}}}}}}}}}


*****HUGS******

Oh my gosh!! Well for the head tilt, it's really a quality of life thing. The problem with Chuck having tilt was that he was blind and deaf too. They almost always recover from tilt. The articles I read, said that they often recover even with no treatment. It's not often known what causes it. EC is thought to be an archaic explanation and it's often middle ear infection rather than a protozoan in the brain(EC)-so treating aggressively will mean lots of meds. Meclizine is a anti nauseant we used, maybe your vet will be able to find someone to make it should he actually have tilt. Its a cant hurt might help drug. The only real worry with tilt is some uncomfort and the inital rolling. You just make the area safe and do frequent checks, lots of meds, they usually don't make it to the litter box so lots of cleaning, but ultimately the usually recover completely or with slight tilt. There is also surgery for persistant-a teca bo, Mandy my parents dog had this, Chuck I was not going to put through it. It's a last resort and works. But often not indicated as antibiotics will do it.

I hope what I wrote is helpful, what I want to get across is head tilt is not life threatening, and Bindi is a trooper, so this is a stumbling block maybe and will stress you out, but otherwise you'll both get through it.

I wish I could pop over with my banana critical care for you, mine eat it off a plate. Do you have the regular flavor or the banana? It might be just worth a try mixing it up into a solid mush and presenting it on a plate?
Another option-maybe a bunny smoothie-pumpkin plus favorite fruit in a blender? Pumpkin has tons of fibre...could help maybe? He might take that off a plate for you?
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User is Offline CinnabunMom
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9/21/2012 4:35 PM
Being very inexperienced with rabbits thus far, I have no advice but I just wanted to stress again how many vibes are coming your way!!

(((((((((((((((VIBES)))))))))))))))))
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User is Offline tanlover14
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9/21/2012 6:09 PM
This is terrible, LPT. I feel for you so much and really hope things start looking up soon. You really are a phenomenal bunny parent. I'm not sure how I could even cope with what you're going through right now.

You and Bindi WILL get through it though -- keep your thoughts positive, he needs you to and YOU NEED yourself to to help you get through this really tough time. We all know you are strong and can do this though.

Continued healing vibes for you both! <3
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User is Offline Elizabeth Paige
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9/21/2012 6:18 PM
Prayers and vibes coming your way from everyone here at my house! it will all get better!
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User is Offline emkvet
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9/21/2012 6:29 PM
Sending so many vibes your way, Stephanie. I know you're having an awful time, and I couldn't imagine having the amount of stress and heartache you're having right now. Bindi is definitely in my thought - I'm sending my veterinary student healing powers his way!!!!! Please keep us updated.

User is Offline FluffyBunny
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9/22/2012 9:02 AM
How's he doing today? I've been following this thread for a couple of days, but haven't had much to add. I really feel for you, though - it must be terribly hard having two very ill bunnies at once, much less having to face the loss of one and the possible loss of another. You, Bindi and Olivia are definitely in my thoughts.
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User is Offline Silly Sungura
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9/22/2012 9:19 AM
LPT, I'm very worried about you and Bindi. Please, please get better, Bindi Loo! We all love you. (((Hugs and prayers and many, many healing vibes)))

User is Offline RabbitPam
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9/22/2012 10:56 AM
Hi, LPT. I don't know exactly when the site came back up again, so I'm checking in late.
I know you said Bindi was possibly coming home this evening. I hope he either does because he is in stable or better shape, or that they keep him overnight again with that goal in mind. I don't like the abscess and wish they would take care of that first if they can.

Try not to take it as a personal black cloud if you can avoid that kind of thinking, though I've been there many times and it's hard not to. It's much more likely that they are similar ages, or got a shared illness at some point, and Bindi is just vulnerable at the moment. It may be that he had something going on under the surface that is now getting treated, so this may be an awful ordeal for you that will result in having Bindi a much, much better bunny in the long run. Just try to do stress relieving and distracting things. Believe it or not, I can't worry a lot and read a book at the same time, so I try to get a fiction novel to read to hold my attention for a while. I usually have my mind wander, but the act of reading is calming and you sit quietly, which is physically relaxing. Try it?

Sending big hugs to you and to {{{{{{{{{{{{{{Bindi Loo}}}}}}}}}}}
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User is Offline bullrider76543
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9/22/2012 11:28 AM
Hi LPT, I was just stopping by to see how bindi was doing. we are all still praying for yall.
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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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9/22/2012 12:52 PM
Hey, guys. I didn't read any of your replies yet. I'm exhausted and will read them all later tonight or in the morning. Just wanted to leave a quick update, I know you are all concerned (and I appreciate it).

We brought him home around supper time. He's super depressed and agitated because of the cone. My rabbit vet said that the lump on his side (which is incredibly icky looking right now) is not an abscess or infected. Guess the other vet was wrong. Still, that's the least of his problems right now. My vet is still very concerned about him. There looks to be a slight tilt but it's hard to tell with the cone on. I can't take it off except to give CC because he immediately tries to dig at the lump. The cone/lump is making this whole thing much, much more difficult.

I want to keep his spirits up. He needs to fight this. He will most likely need the cone for a week. Any tips appreciated. I CANNOT lose him too. Especially, so soon. My heart is just going to burst. I'm staying strong for him but I just want to go in a room and scream and cry. My heart is aching for Stormy too and I haven't really had time to properly grieve for him yet.

Vet said to keep a close eye on him. If he starts rolling to call her. If not, she wants to see him in a week. He's on febendazole (I think that's the name) for 30 day treatment and Baytril. I'm hoping we caught it early enough. He literally only started the symptoms while he was at the vet yesterday.

Please send vibes. We sure need them.
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User is Offline MimzMum
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9/22/2012 1:56 PM
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Is he still on metacam? If E.C. is suspected or inner ear infection it's essential he have an antiinflammatory.
If the lump isn't abscessed or infected then I can't imagine....did she say what she thought it might be?
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