 Lillydahungrybunny
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| 09/12/2012 06:24 PM |
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hey guys its lilly's slave here with some bad news, i either have to get rid of lilly's smelly cage, or get rid of lilly! so does anybunny know any odor illiminators that are at a low price??? also my mom is allergic to her so i need a solution for that too. anything will help
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| 09/12/2012 06:32 PM |
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The litter shouldn't smell that much. What kind are you using? I'm sorry, I don't know, but is she spayed? |
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 Lillydahungrybunny
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| 09/12/2012 06:48 PM |
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she is too young and i use aspen shavings |
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| 09/12/2012 07:30 PM |
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The not being spayed yet is where most the smell comes from. How often do you change her litter ? Is she litter box trained? Litter training and changing the box frequently removes most odor. I use a litter screen and dump the solids daily and scoop the wet litter out every so often as needed. A layer of hay in the litter box helps a lot with smell as well. As for allergies.. an air purifier and not being in the main bun room all the time is all I can think of. Usually hay is the allergy causer not the rabbit itself so switching to orchard hay can help some people. |
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 KokaneeandkahluaEdmonton, Alberta; Canada
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| 09/12/2012 07:33 PM |
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Change her liter more frequently and ensure any accidents are fully cleaned up-check carpets or walls for pee to ensure that isn't what is causing the smell. If your smelling anything it means you are not cleaning the litter box frequently enough, or that there is pee somewhere that hasn't been cleaned up-so try looking in corners maybe? Once she's old enough spaying will help. For the allergies-most people aren't allergic to bunnies, they are allergic to timothy hay. So try other hays  That should help. Also your mom shouldn't handle the litter, hay or bunny; and if she does must wash her hands, and ensure she doesn't touch her face before doing so. Keep us posted on your progress with odours  |
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| 09/12/2012 11:42 PM |
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I'm highly allergic to all types of grass (ie hays) and was on three prescriptions at one point. Get a room "HEPA" air filter. That helps a ton. Also, timothy hay has more dust, so try less dusty hay. We also put hay in the litterbox, to keep the dust down. Now, I only have to take allergy meds when the outdoor ones get bad. We use Carefresh litter. It helps absorb smells and the hay dust. I know others have said it, but getting her fixed will make a world of difference!! |
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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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 Sam and Lady's Human
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| 09/13/2012 02:35 AM |
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I wouldn't use an odor eliminator. Just change her box more, I do every 3 days with a Flemmie and Lionhead pair. I use Wood Stove Pellets, they are super cheap and absorbent  How old is she? When has her vet said he's comfortable spaying her? |
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 RabbitPamSouth Florida
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| 09/13/2012 02:42 AM |
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The aspen shavings are the right kind as far as shavings go, but the Aspen pellets absorb odor much better and longer. (Aspen Supreme, available in Petco here.) I use a layer of aspen pellets, then cover that with a thicker layer of aspen shavings. The shavings seem to stay soft and dry for much longer when the pee goes down to the pellets layer underneath. I also sprinkle fresh shavings over a pile of poos so it absorbs the odor. Aspen is the wood that doesn't give off any harmful chemicals, so it really does the job and is still healthy. In general, if you light a match and blow it out quickly, the sulfer in the match will make a smoke that immediately absorbs odors. I am allergic to most scented room deodorizers and candles, so I've used matches for years in the bathroom. |
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Have your people call my people. We'll do carrots. |
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 Sarita(Dallas)
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| 09/13/2012 03:15 AM |
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I think you just need to clean more often and change the litter box more often. You need to thoroughly clean the cage each and every day. Perhaps you are missing places where she urinated. |
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| 09/13/2012 04:53 AM |
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How much longer until she can be spayed? Honestly when Sophie came home my house smelled like a barn for two weeks until she got into the vet. I could smell it from the time I walked in the back door downstairs all the way to her room upstairs, it just got worse. That was with cleaning the box every day. As soon as she was fixed the smell was gone. I have six rabbits in the house, all altered, and no smell. I use horse stall bedding which is kiln dried pine pellets (kiln drying gets rid of the oils that cause respiratory issues). It soaks up the urine and any smell with it. |
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 ElrohwenHudson Valley, NY
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| 09/13/2012 05:33 AM |
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I would recommend using Yesterday's News or wood stove pellets as litter - they absorb more odor than shavings. As the others said, altering will drastically reduce the smell. Other than that, just make sure you're changing the litter box every couple of days. What kind of material is the cage? Some people get wooden hutches (even for inside) but it's impossible to clean wood fully and it can smell. Something with a hard surface like plastic will clean up easily. |
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 Skipper's MamaFlorida
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| 09/13/2012 07:17 AM |
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I have tried several different types of litters. I really like Feline Pine. It helps save money and I can tell really easily what parts of the liter need to be changed. It also is a great smell absorber. I'm totally annal retentive about keeping the litter box clean and change it every day. Mainly because it's really hot and muggy where I live and worry about fly strike. But changing the litter every day really helps with keeping smell down. Also, TH004 is right! You should look into getting a HEPA filter. My bf's mom is highly allergic to Skipper. We have a HEPA filter in the house near her cage and she's fine unless she decides to pick up the bun or touch anything that has her hair on it. |
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 Lillydahungrybunny
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| 09/13/2012 12:07 PM |
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Lilly is old enough to get a spay (just turned 6 months today I think) but I just don't have enough money yet and she is so stubborn about using the litterbox that when I put the litterbox where she usually goes, shell try to go under my bed and pee there. Luckily, I clean up all of her messes and spray purfume on it. Also the thing is that in my neighborhood, they don't sell horse stall bedding or wood stove pellets and my pet stores don't sell feline pine. But now what I really need is a cleaning solution that illiminates odor. Oh and I almost forgot to say, Lilly's cage is made out of metal and I clean it every other day. |
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 Sam and Lady's Human
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| 09/13/2012 12:17 PM |
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How big is her cage?Is the bottom covered with litter? Or does she have a specific box to use? |
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 Skipper's MamaFlorida
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| 09/13/2012 02:45 PM |
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Hmmm...A vinegar/water solution works to get rid of smell. |
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 RobertaWanneroo, Western Australia
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| 09/13/2012 03:51 PM |
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Perfume over pee is generally not a good solution, it can actually make matters worse and amplifiy the nasty odour. I would try rubbing some baking soda into the places Lily has pee'd, let it dry and then vaccum the spot. |
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| 09/13/2012 04:08 PM |
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Indeed, perfume will mask the smell for a little bit but then it will actually soak in with it, making it even worse. Yuck. It does nothing to rid your carpet of the ammonia in the urine which is one of the reasons it smells so bad, nor the extra smell from not being spayed. I find what works best on carpet is NATURES MIRACLE, meant for cats, it rids carpet of really bad urine stains and smells and it dries quickly. Vinegar/water (50/50) works well on wood/tile/metal. The important part is to make the smell go away, even to her nose, so she won't want to remark the area. Also, I would recommend blocking off the underside of your bed at least until she is spayed, since the dark corners are a favorite litter spot for bunnies. PETCO should sell aspen fresh, if you have one near you. There is also walmarts version of feline pine, if you have one of those, it's still pelleted so safe. Or you can order litter/food in larger quantities online like I do and get free shipping from some stores, even for over weight items.  |
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| 09/13/2012 04:57 PM |
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I understand what you are going through. After my parents let me keep the bunnies inside they threatened me all the time that they were going to put them back outside if I don't keep the smell down. I don't want you to have to get rid of your bunny so I am going to help you as much as I can! Litter: Feline pine is WONDERFUL for odor! It is just as good or better then Horse Stall Bedding. Although eventually if feline pine gets to expensive you could switch if you are able to find it. Wood stove pellets are the best I have found though! Even better then feline pine. It also helps a LOT to not store the litter in your room. Do you have a garage or shed you could keep it in instead? then after you clean your litter box just take it out in the garage to fill it up with litter. That's what I do. Litter Boxes: How new is your litter box? Litter boxes can start to smell and need to be replaced often. With two rabbits I find I need to replace mine every 6months. Also clean them often, about every 1-2 days and when you clean them if you soak them in about 1/2 inch of vinegar for 10 minutes that helps. Hay: Hay can smell too. Of coarse you can't not feed hay as it is the most important thing in a rabbits diet, but the less hay the better. I would store your hay in the garage (or shed) in a bin and only keep a day or two worth of hay in your room at a time. Carpet: Carpet can hold a lot of odors and smell since it is hard to clean. Any water spills, water from veggies, pee, etc. could have soaked into your carpet making it smell bad even if you didn't know. If possible I would get rid of it. Any rugs or carpet as flooring and replace with linoleum or something. Linoleum is very easy to clean and you can get rid of the smell by wiping it with 50/50 vinegar and water or natures miracle. Sent Glands: Most of the time the smell from rabbits comes from the cage/litter box but, it can come from your rabbits sent glands if they have not been cleaned. Here is a link on how to clean them/where they are. Just scroll down to where it says: ANAL SCENT GLANDS (EEEYUCK!) Be aware, It will smell! YUCK! http://www.binkybunny.com/BUNNYINFO...fault.aspx Cage: Make sure you clean your cage (and litter boxes) and wash fleece often. When I had problems with my parents I cleaned it every day. It is a lot of work but it paid off. Eventually you learn how to do it faster as you get into a routine. Air Fresheners: Most air fresheners are not good around rabbits but some are ok. You can use Ceder Magic. Ceder Magic doesn't just cover odors it absorbs odors as well. A dish of coffee grounds, or a charcoal round or ground up will absorb odor, as will a box of baking soda. I have heard rosemary tapped onto a fan works too. Also fresh air. Fresh air is the best to making a room smell good. Opening the window and having a fan on to circulate air helps a LOT. I would also open your bedroom door as often as you can so it doesn't get stuffy. There have been a few home made air freshener recipes on BB before that I could maybe find if you want. I hope you can reduce the smell! Believe me! I have tried this stuff and if you do all of it that you can, it WILL help! Also once she is fixed things will almost get 100% better! I have two baby foster bunnies right now that are not fixed that STINK! But my other bunnies (both fixed) Don't smell! |
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 BBSan Francisco Area
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| 09/13/2012 05:30 PM |
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I just wanted to double triple ditto -- Everyone gave great advice! And Mocha - awesome! The only thing I was going to add is you can try some natural things -- Not sure what kind of access you have to a rosemary bush. But fresh clippings have a wonderful scent and are pretty strong, but not in a bad way. We have two bushes in our yard and I just cut a few clippings and put them in a basket. I then just break the clippings up, wave them around a bit and put them back in the basket. (Rosemary is safe for bunnies to nibble on) You could also get a little mini fan, put it on low and put it near a basket of rosemary clippings. Of course this doesn't replace being extra diligent with cleaning -- it's just in addition to. Good luck and keep us updated |
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| 09/14/2012 05:42 AM |
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If you have access to lavender that is wonderful as well. I give some to my buns on a regular basis as a bed time snack, it has the bonus of making their blankets smell lovely. |
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 tobyluvSouth Carolina
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| 09/14/2012 12:46 PM |
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Lilly is old enough to get a spay (just turned 6 months today I think) but I just don't have enough money yet and she is so stubborn about using the litterbox that when I put the litterbox where she usually goes, shell try to go under my bed and pee there. Luckily, I clean up all of her messes and spray purfume on it. Also the thing is that in my neighborhood, they don't sell horse stall bedding or wood stove pellets and my pet stores don't sell feline pine. But now what I really need is a cleaning solution that illiminates odor. Oh and I almost forgot to say, Lilly's cage is made out of metal and I clean it every other day. Feline Pine is sold in grocery stores and probably in discount stores such as Kmart and Walmart. I've seen it in a lot of different stores. |
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 MonkeybunHillsboro, Oregon
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| 09/14/2012 01:16 PM |
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I like nature's Miracle or just vinegar and water for cleaning up urine spots. Both work wonderfully I would change out from the aspen shavings. Wood shavings in general I think just end up making things smell more strongly, adding the wet wood smell to the urine. Paper based are better for that I think. And frequent changes. And I also agree with the perfume: it makes it worse. |
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| 09/14/2012 05:09 PM |
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I used to have to really keep up on odor control with just my one rabbit but she's about 4 weeks spayed now and the difference is very noticeable. I change the litter about every 2 days and its no problem. |
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 zoologistOrlando, Fl
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| 09/14/2012 06:03 PM |
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It's ok that your bunny isn't litter trained yet. She's young and bunnies can be stubborn I use this bedding for my hedgehog after trying half a dozen different things (fleece, aspen, corn cob bedding, care fresh, ugh!!) and it works the best out of anything ive used before for keeping down smell. I used to have to clean the cage every couple of days. Now I can let it go for a couple of weeks if I really wanted to with no problem. It's a little on the pricey side but since I don't have to clean as often i use less bedding than before. http://m.petsmart.com/mt/www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2753648 |
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 Lillydahungrybunny
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| 09/15/2012 09:58 PM |
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UPDATE: I'm going to start using vinigar/water mixture until I can get my hands on some natures miracle. And now I have to force Lilly to get in the litterbox and stay there until she goes and I only give her her daily rosepetal if she goes in there but I feel bad but I don't want to lose her. WHAT DO I DO!!! |
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| 09/16/2012 12:28 AM |
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Once she gets old enough to spay, that will help with the litterbox training and smell (remind your family that those things will be fixed when she gets old enough). In the meantime, you can put her food bowl and/or hay in the litterbox. My buns loves to eat and poo in one place--it's efficient  |
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 MonkeybunHillsboro, Oregon
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| 09/16/2012 12:36 AM |
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yes, keep her food in the litter box. They eat and go at the same time. |
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 Skipper's MamaFlorida
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| 09/16/2012 06:18 AM |
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I'm sure the vinegar/water mix will work. =] I hope you can keep her. I'm sure it will help. |
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 Beka27Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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| 09/16/2012 06:53 AM |
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How soon do you think you'll have the money for the spay? A good litter and the vinegar mixture should help, but if the smell is from the urine (or urine spraying due to hormones), spaying is really the best option. |
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