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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Accidentally acquired two Flemish Giants. Need advice!
Last Post by tanlover14 at 9/21/2012 7:07 AM (52 Replies)
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User is Offline zoologist
Orlando, Fl
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8/31/2012 11:12 AM
I meant to say, the thing with the cords is that they'll nibble them if they're in their way (like they would nibble at roots in their path in the wild), not because they like the taste of them. If the cords are out of reach I doubt they will jump up just to chew it.

My boyfriend's brother's rabbits chewed his floor molding. So badly that we had to go around and paint over the molding in the entire apartment when he moved so he could get his deposit back (even though there were obvious bite marks if you looked close enough). Tofu has nibbled at the molding once, in one area, and hasn't since. He's really good about not chewing stuff, but he has lots of wood blocks and stuff to chew in his cage.

I've noticed even with my teeny dwarf rabbit I am still cleaning the litter box daily. Maybe you can invest in a rubbermaid container and buy a large cookie cooling sheet (you know, the ones with the grates?) so poo can fall through. That way you can just use old news papers or something so you aren't spending a lot on litter.
-Jessy

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User is Offline Hunny's Momma
Beautiful New England
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8/31/2012 12:31 PM

I have the largest litter box with high sides that Walmart carries 1 for each of my buns... the actual space inside is about 14" x 18" and as of now they are working great for both buns... I do suggest something with high sides. This pics a few months old, Hunny's about 11-12lbs now. And all though she does have a hay rack (not the same as pic, that one we don't use anymore) but I put a handful of hay a couple times a day in the front of the box.  I buy Aspen pine bedding from Tractor Supply it's about $10 and last a couple months... I usually change their boxes every 2 days... I have recently started using a grid (plastic canvas used for cross stitching, cheap $1.79 at Joanne's Craft Store) over the litter that catches the poops and just scoop it out a couple times a day, the Aspen shavings absorbs very well and controls the odor.  Before the grid I did the same & scooped out the poops but I got sick of having to sweep out the pen everyday cause they would track the shaving out... I'm very happy with the set up I'm using now... the BB store also sells a litter box grid thing.   

 


User is Offline Skipper's Mama
Florida
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8/31/2012 1:25 PM
I think just for sanitation reasons and making sure that your bun isn't afflicted by icky things like flystrike, it would be a good idea to clean the litter everyday. I have a compulsive need for things to be clean so I make sure to clean my little one's cage and litter every day. I have used Yesterday's News, Critter Country and Feline Pine. I find that I have a hard time figuring out where my bun peed when using YN. And I hated how DUSTY Critter Country was. I really, really like Feline Pine. It absorbs pee great and I can tell what needs to be scooped up.

User is Offline Hunny's Momma
Beautiful New England
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8/31/2012 2:30 PM
Before I started using the grid I did change Hunny's box daily and most of the time I was wasting litter... I clean the pellets out after she goes & with the grid her body never actually touches the litter.

Hunny doesn't use the litter box all day... She'll go after breakfast then snooze all day... then up again around 5pm, use the potty then dinner at 6:30/7, use the potty then you won't see her in it for the rest of the night... She does the majority of her pottying at night when we are asleep... and in the morning I get up clean out the poops and wet shavings. And now thinking of it, it's more like a day and a half not a full 48hrs in between changes & even then the majoirty of the shavings are dry. I was actually amazed that she had such control. Ash on the other hand, I do change his box every morning cause he pees a lot and with his hormones kicking in he's got a funky smell... He also drinks way more water then Hunny does... This is just what works for me & my buns...

User is Offline lobsterandi
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8/31/2012 2:40 PM
Yeah, I have Yesterday's News and I have a hard time telling which parts are dirty and which aren't. It seems like my bunnies pee lakes, though, and that everything needs to be taken out. I don't know how they pee so much when they don't seem to drink that much - maybe from all the greens?

It seemed like they drank more when I had a heavy crock for them but they were always a. knocking it over or b. pooping in it, which I found disgusting. I bought the biggest tube waterer the pet store offered, and they drink from it but it doesn't seem like much. Maybe it just seemed like they drank more from the crock because I was replacing it 5 times a day or more and spending so much time cleaning up the spills.

This is the hutch we got for the bunnies to hide in:

http://www.amazon.com/Natura-Rabbit...bbit+hutch

We did some mods to it so that bunnies can stand up all the way to the ceiling, which is 44" high. I know I coulda kludged one for myself for less, but I think this one looks a big nicer and more furniture-y for a little home.

User is Offline Hunny's Momma
Beautiful New England
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8/31/2012 2:58 PM
Cute hutch! I totally get the "furniture-y" thing...
My buns both barely used the water bottles so they have heavy dog dishes & the only real prob I'm having right now is Ash loves stepping in it so I'm constantly re-filling his... which don't phase me none at least I know he always has fresh water, lol.

I think it's crazy how no 2 bunnies are the same, Hunny has always been super clean & has a "hot & cold" personality, some days she's all over me & wants lovin's and the next she wants to be left be... & Ash is like a lil' tornado... but he's also my sweet snuggle bunny, he'll crawl up on my lap and bury his head under my arm and lie there forever while I pet him.

User is Offline Skipper's Mama
Florida
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8/31/2012 3:01 PM
I know that Flemmie tend to be on the heavier side and need more soft places to lounge than smaller buns to prevent sore hocks. I would suggest for latter down the road when they are completely trained to get a nice cushiony dog mat that they can lay on. On one of the threads floating around there is a mat that is supposedly really good to prevent buns from getting sore hocks. For now maybe getting a really plush blanket and putting on top of it several layers of towels. So if they pee you can easily take the towels away and wash them.

User is Offline lobsterandi
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8/31/2012 3:44 PM
One of the nice things about the hutch is that it has no wire floors. Also, it was super easy to modify. No rabbit paws have touched it yet, however. They've been too busy begging for parsley to even notice it's there. I think I will put them to bed in their old familiar dog kennel tonight and let them explore it tomorrow before making the move.

Maybe if I get a dog dish even bigger than what they had it would work. I don't mind changing dirty water, but I DO mind mopping up floors and scooping up wet strands of hay and poufy nasty pellets. (one of them likes to drop pellets on the floor instead of eating them. Kinda messy!)

User is Offline Skipper's Mama
Florida
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8/31/2012 5:30 PM
Even if bun's are not kept on a wire floor (which I do not recommend, must be so uncomfortable) they need a soft place to lie down and relax. =]

User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
Edmonton, Alberta; Canada
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8/31/2012 5:49 PM
Just wanted to say welcome, and thanks for being such a good person as to save these two! They are so lucky they ended up with you! Your doing a great job already

They have such distinct personalities-I can't wait to see more pictures and hear more
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User is Offline SuperCheesetastic
Planet Mars --- Home of bunny martians
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9/02/2012 1:10 PM
My local rabbit rescue will spay for $65.
The vet wanted a whopping $350. That was the second cheapest. Some wanted waaaayyy over $400.
Come fly on a plane to Florida, if you can. The fare to and fro plus the $65 must be cheaper than $700.
o_O

User is Offline SuperCheesetastic
Planet Mars --- Home of bunny martians
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9/02/2012 1:20 PM
http://travela.priceline.com/airlin...SSION=true

Actually, it is cheaper to fly to Florida (without your kids and such) AND if that link is working for you, you'll see that the cheapest round-trip flight is $315.23.
Ha!
Add taxes, hotel fare for a night, bus/train/cab fees, and the spay/neuter, and you're still under $550.


User is Offline Skipper's Mama
Florida
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9/02/2012 2:22 PM
SuperCheesetasticbwhere did you get your spay done?

User is Offline Theresa
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9/04/2012 6:58 AM

I was using the Yesterday's News, but man, expensive!  Like $9 for 15 pounds!  I changed over to wood fuel pellets I get at Theisens (like Tractor Supply.)  They were on sale this week for $3 for 40 pounds of pellets.  Believe it or not, the wood pellets completely control the odor and its' easy to see where Roscoe peed cuz the pellets break down to sawdust in those areas and are easily scooped out.

I use a storage bin I got at Walmart for $4 for a litter box - and hubby cut some small square wire rabbit/chicken mesh for me to use as a grate on top of the pellets.  We painted the edges with that Flexseal rubber paint - which got rid of the sharp edges.

I just read on this thread bout the plastic grates for cross-stitching or whatever - OMG, what a great idea!  I'm gonna stop by my local fabric store on the way home and pick some up to try, since I just got some more plastic boxes.

I am all about making this as easy as possible, and we have 2 litter boxes.  I have 2 extra boxes that I have all set up with fresh litter, screen, and ready for fresh hay.  I put the hay on the screen - and go replace the current box with the fresh one.  Then take the dirty one out, clean it as thoroughly as necessary (sometimes requiring vinegar scrub) and prepare it so it's ready for the next day's change-out.

I know - anal, right?  I just have found that Roscoe gets stressed when his box is gone for any length of time.  He really gets ticked at me if it's gone too long.  And the other thing is that his crate WAS in my living room - and if we had unexpected guests show up, then I could change the box out very quickly and not be embarrassed by the odor....


User is Offline lobsterandi
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9/06/2012 5:31 PM
How do you tell if a giant rabbit is fat? I can still feel ribs but man... We've gone through bags of pellets already! I read that they should get unlimited pellets because they're young, but even if it's that much? They're eating at least 2.5 cups each day. I give them each greens the size of their heads. It's hard to tell how much hay they eat because I toss a lot when I clean up their house.

I think one gets more than the other because Lady is definitely submissive and sometimes hangs back to eat. They seem to have different tastes. One loves arugula. The other turns up her nose. One loves willow, other one won't touch it. Weird...

User is Offline Hunny's Momma
Beautiful New England
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9/07/2012 12:30 AM

My Ash whos just over 12 weeks is on unlimited pellets & eats about 1.5 cups a day... I use a half cup scoop - one scoop in the morning, one when I come home from work & one at bed time... some mornings the bowls empty, sometimes it's not.  He also gets about a cup to a cup in a half of greens twice a day.  As far as hay, I put a handful in his litter box 3 times a day also... Idk exactly how much he eats but I see him eatting it all the time so I don't worry... Sounds like they're eating the correct amount to me -

Hunny who's almost 8 months eats about the same amount of pellets (same scoop routine, although sometimes she don't need any when I get outta work so I'll skip the scoop) & she gets about 2 cups of greens twice a day.  She don't eat much hay during the day... but when I wake up in the morning there's like no hay in the litterbox but it sure is full of poops, lol. So again I know she's eating it...

Idk what Ash weighs (will find out tomorrow but if I had to guess I'd say about 4-5lbs) & when Hunny was about 12 weeks she weighed about 6lbs.  They always look bigger then they actually weigh.

Hunny & Ash get fed at the same time BUT each get their own bowl of greens so that they each get the amount they are suppose to... also there are somethings Hunny won't eat that Ash loves (collard greens for example).  Ash is a lil' piggy bun & gobbles his up wicked quick then runs back n forth & tries sticking his head thru the bars to get at Hunny's so I know if I fed them from the same bowl he'd be all over her share. 

 


User is Offline Kyrre
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9/08/2012 8:57 AM
I am so envious right now.
Giants are so beautifull. Gotta love them ears!

Remember though, giants need a LOT of excersize. Big buns mean big area to run too.

User is Offline lobsterandi
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9/08/2012 5:27 PM
They are nice! (Well, they were nicer when I thought they were both girls! LOL Now they're giving me an ulcer worrying about bunny babies. hehehe.)

I bought a carpet remnant for them that's 12'x14' so that's their pen size in addition to their rabbit abode. Then they can come out and play with us, also. The only problem is that now we've got to keep them separated in little spaces because of the whole boy/girl issue. But next Friday will solve that!

I am going to be up to my ears in vet care. The dog has allergies and requires a special bath each day, medicine twice daily, and a cream for her paws and belly three times a day. THEN add on top of that they I will be doing regular bunny care plus checking their incisions and making sure they eat and poop. Oh boy.

I'll be glad when this is over.

User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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9/10/2012 10:57 AM

Hey!!!I just saw this. I've got a flemmies, Lady. She's about 15lbs ish at 11 months. Check with your local house rabbit society, I was able to get a voucher for house bunnies to get mine spayed. Also check out rabbit.org for a list ofreputable vets For pretty much everything, bigger is better. Lady would pick up and slam her xpen when Ihad it at 4x4, but was much happier at 4x8 ( and she had free time in the house most of the day. I use a large low sided tub for her litter box, like the kind that go under the bed. She tends to kick out out a lot of poop of its any smaller. We buy hay by the bale now, like 50lbs from dr foster and smith, as well as Bulk pellets, because she eats so darn much. and greens man, she eats a TON of greens. 

So yeah, tons of space and food is important with a big breed especially when they binky 5 feet


User is Offline jerseygirl
Australia
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9/11/2012 5:53 AM
Hey! Where you been S&LH?! :p

lobsterandi; here's another vet list in case you haven't tried these. From Minnesota Companion Rabbit Society. You'll also find a bit about Hoppy Hour on this site. Something that might interest you if you live close enough.

http://mn.companionrabbit.org/resou...rians.html
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