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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > Please HELP: GI stasis treatment and aftermath
Last Post by LittlePuffyTail at 9/09/2012 3:19 AM (49 Replies)
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User is Offline Sarita
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8/09/2012 9:14 AM
Glad he is recovering :~)

User is Offline Nova
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8/10/2012 9:17 AM
I was only trying to be informative because dependency/tolerance and resultant rebound problems *can* occur with these medications. It doesn't mean it *will*. I was concerned because your bun is very young and still developing---not good to get a dependency right off the bat which is what happened to my bun (but I helped him get thru it - weaned him off the meds and got serious about his diet).
Ask any vet about dependency on motility meds - they should acknowledge it exists - but different vets have varying opinions on just how long a bun can be on the meds without developing dependency. Plenty of vets have had buns on motility meds for a month or more without problems, others developed a dependency much quicker than that, and it is usually remedied by weaning them off the meds once their motility is back to normal.
If your vet feels that he will not develop a tolerance or dependency after a month, then he likely won't; I've heard of rabbits being on themfor 6 weeks without incident.....but that it CAN happen, and sometimes sooner, so be careful. my primary point I was trying to make was do not jump for the motility meds if this turns out to be a lifelong thing. You may end up shooting yourself in the foot. (which is what happened to me). Every 2 weeks Boon was on motility meds from the tender age of 3 months old. He's about a year now and it has turned into a lifelong problem and I use the motility meds as an abolsute last resort because half the time they don't work anymore, and when I take him off them things get pretty bad, so I have to wean him off them over a week. I also switch between Reglan and Cisapride, usually depends on where his blockage is (higher up = Reglan, lower colon = Cisapride). This is all information I learned from not one, but two exotic pet specialists plus a local rabbit wise vet. It's not just "my opinion." It's what my bunny's doctors told me. BUT. Please do not worry. He hasn't been on these types of meds a million times before and it seems like he really needs them right now and probably does need them for a month.

Your bun obviously needs motility meds for this severe bout of stasis! His case seems to be quite stubborn, and I hope it clears. When he becomes regular again for a nice amount of time, perhaps ask your vet about weaning him off the motility meds so as to not develop a dependency at such a young age. And I'd also ask to have both kinds of meds on hand just in case for the future.

(Weaning meaning removing 0.1cc from his regime each day until off. ) example if bun is on 0.9cc a day, just remove 0.1 from each everyday. That's usually what I do instead of just taking him off abruptly - it helps to prevent my bun from having rebound stasis when I take him off.

You might also want to ask Dana Krempels what her thoughts are - she is a Ph.D rabbit specialist - you can write her by Googling her name and asking her the question in the AllExperts community.

User is Offline Kokaneeandkahlua
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8/10/2012 10:28 AM
WOW Just got through this whole post! I can't believe what a long arduous ride it's been! I'm so glad it sounds like Tux is on the mend I think his new name is cute, baby g the prized bunny Most definitely!
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User is Offline TuxDraper
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8/10/2012 2:09 PM
Thank you all so much for your feedback and the information. I am somewhat nervous now about the reglan for 30 days. Today I have given it to him two times, and he is due for another does in a few hours. He stool is still SUPER tiny and somewhat sticky, but he is producing a TON of it. I am hoping that this is just going to take some time for him to get back to regular stools. His green veggie and hay intake has been great yesterday and today, and has been downing tons of water (and pedialite) with a few drops of baby apple juice mixed into it. I know that the apple juice isn't ideal, but it is really interesting him in the water and his intake is terrific.

He has had decent energy today as well. At this point, I am just really concerned about two things:

1. His return to normal stools
2. He has completely abandoned his litter box training and is pooing and peeing everywhere. I am not getting mad at him about this because I am just so happy that he is going, but I am curious (asking the group) if I will have to retrain him on this? That is understandable, but I really hope that he will return to his awesome litter box rituals that he once had.


User is Offline kamdynandsunshinesmom
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8/10/2012 4:40 PM
My rabbit just went into that a week ago. My vet gave her subq fluids then put her on reglan 1.3ml 3 times a day till she is 100% better. Then put on Bene Bac once a day. Then I was force feeding her critical care 3 times a day. This happened on a friday started force feeding her on saturday. By saturday she was only eating parsley. By sunday she was eating a little more, Monday she was eating a little more hay. Now a week later eating lots of hay, and veggies. She hasn't touched her pellets yet. The vet said it will take time. I can say from expereince keep calm. Try giving parsley cilantro and other type of herbs the bunny likes. Stay away from fruits. This was my first dealing with GI Stasis. My rabbits stasis was caused because it was so hot outside and humid she got dehydrated which led to stasis. Every day she is getting a little bit stronger. Hang in there things will get better. Healing vibes and prayers for you and your bunny.

User is Offline TH004
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8/11/2012 1:28 AM
I am actually pregnant and was given Reglan for way more than a month to help severe acid reflux issues. 1. I think it is safe for a buns to use for a month, IMO. That is because doctors believed it was safe to give a pregnant woman in her first and most delicate trimester. 2. Being on meds for my acid reflux, for a human, causes me to have to run to the restroom sometimes. I don't have a lot of warning (sorry for the TMI). I'm pointing that out, because it may be working well on your buns, so he can't make it to the litterbox on time. I know rabbits are different, but I thought a human/baby trial may help show you similar issues

Oh, and I wasn't weaned off of Reglan. I stopped taking it cold. I had no dependency issues.

User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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8/11/2012 1:29 AM
Glad Tuxy is feeling better.

[quote I am hoping that this is just going to take some time for him to get back to regular stools.] This is the case in my experience. It takes their system time to recover from a bad bout of stasis or GI upset. The fact that he is pooping lots of little poops is good. They will most likely gradually get larger. Just keep the hay bin full and make sure he's drinking.
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User is Offline TuxDraper
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9/08/2012 11:46 AM
Hey everyone! I wanted to give you an update on Mr. Tux...

He is doing AWESOME!! I weened him off the reglan about a week ago - just shy of 30 days. He was much better about 2 weeks ago as far as eating and pooping, but to be safe, I slowly reduced the amount and frequency of his meds.

He has managed to plumped right back up (and some!), is binkying like normal, and is just the sweetest little guy ever. Even though he's such a teenager right now (7month old), he loves to cuddle and have nose and ear scratches. I think he knows how much love and care we provided and is thankful. Is this possible?

I also wanted to ask the group if you think bunnies know when you are sick or sleepy, etc. I think he does bc he will lay down while I watch a movie or
Something. I could also just be crazy. Thoughts on this?

User is Offline Skipper's Mama
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9/08/2012 12:40 PM
Buns can sense when we're in moods. When I'm crying or upset my bun will come up and cuddle with me. =]

User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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9/09/2012 3:19 AM
I'm glad Mr. Tux is doing so well. I ditto that buns are very in tune to our feelings. If you're sick and not your usual self, they will sense that.
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