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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > RESCUE EFFORTS FOR SHELTERS > My Foster Rabbit Family :) UPDATED 5/7!
Last Post by Hokankai at 5/17/2012 8:22 AM (68 Replies)
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User is Offline Hokankai
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3/17/2012 2:22 AM
Well I have some very bad news....mom has started nesting. I had a hunch she might be pregnant when they brought her in because the babies were already a couple days old.

This will be the 4th litter of hers at the shelter...and I have a hunch they're not going to be around for very long. Mom is very skinny, I can feel her ribs even though she has a constant supply of pellets, and I think nursing for another 6 weeks might do her in.

Sigh

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3/17/2012 7:00 AM

Good luck .


User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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3/18/2012 3:42 AM
The mom of the 3 babies you have now?

Why didn't the shelter spay her?
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User is Offline Hokankai
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3/18/2012 4:47 AM
Yup, that's her. They didn't spay her because she was in the middle of nursing two litters...

I got an email from the shelter saying to bring in the new babies when they're born and let mom take care of the ones now. That'll give her 2 more weeks of nursing and then she'll be spayed a week later. No more babies from this little mama.

User is Offline Sarita
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3/18/2012 12:22 PM
Why would you bring in the newborns? That doesn't make sense at all to me - who is going to nurse the new ones? That is wrong....you should bring in the current litter not the newborns.

I cannot understand how she could have had 4 litters at the humane society either...

User is Offline Hokankai
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3/18/2012 12:35 PM

I have a feeling they're probably going to euthanize the babies or find a foster mother for them, but I can't afford to worry about what happens to them. The only reason I assume that much is LAST time this happened, when I had the white rabbits and the mom had a very surprising litter of NINE (and this was my first time owning rabbits), they asked me to bring in the mom and newborns right away. I didn't...because I was afraid she'd abandon them. But I haven't heard anything about mama or those nine babies since, and they usually call me to update on their progress and when they've been adopted. Those babies would be up for adoption now I think.

No no, she was brought in with three litters. The owner brought in her, two 2 month olds, two 1 months olds, and four 3-4 day olds. I picked them up the day they were brought into the shelter, meaning she was already fertilized the fourth time when I got her. She was obviously housed with a male, so the minute she had babies she was pregnant again...and again over and over. She'll be spayed in probably 3-4 weeks, a week after I wean the current litter.


User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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3/18/2012 2:38 PM
Why don't they fix her now?

User is Offline Hokankai
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3/18/2012 4:23 PM

Because:

A) she's about to give birth
B) she still has at least two more weeks of nursing to do

C) once they're weaned you want to give the female's body a week to recover from pregnancy/nursing  before you perform major surgery
D) I can't afford to drive 45 minutes there and back multiple times. I plan on going up to drop off the newborns and one last time to drop off mom, Chubs, and Blackie

at this point it doesn't matter when she gets spayed. The problem was before she got to the shelter, not after. We're just dealing with the rest of the previous owners' mistakes and irresponsibility. She doesn't have access to any unneutered males now and the babies will be going into other foster homes until they're ready to be spayed/neutered, so there's no risk of her kids getting her preggo. Once they're weaned Ebony won't be with any other rabbits while she's intact. 


User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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3/19/2012 1:25 AM
I hope they don't euthanize the babies. How awful.
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User is Offline Sarita
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3/19/2012 2:33 AM
Well that's unfortunately the sad side of rescue work - you cannot rescue them all. Rescue/humane/SPCA organization have limited funds, space, and money to care for every single animal that comes through their doors. It's sad.

That's why education is so important as well as spaying and neutering. And education about care and spaying and neutering should be done at breeders, petstores, rescues, organizations such as 4H and FFA as well.

User is Offline Beka27
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3/19/2012 2:46 AM
IMPORTANT NOTE FOR BB MEMBERS:

NOW would be the time to contact the HS if anyone is in this area and is seriously interested in one of the babies they saw. If you offer specifics, they may be able to arrange something to hold the bunny for you. This should reduce the chance of him/her being euthanized. Maybe message KK directly thru the message center so you can get her info to give to the shelter. Then you can contact them saying "I am "so and so", I spoke with "KK's real name" and she is fostering a bunny I am interested in adopting from you when he/she is ready..."
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User is Offline Hokankai
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3/19/2012 3:07 AM

Just to be clear, Chubs and Blackie will definitely NOT be euthanized. The only rabbits whose fortunes are unknown are the unborn kits in Ebony's belly.

Just wanted to make sure people weren't worried too much.

Chubs and Blackie will be going to other foster homes (let me know if you're interested in that) and will be ready for adoption in approximately 4 months once they've been fixed.


User is Offline Hokankai
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3/19/2012 4:50 PM

The biddies are 4 weeks old now and have exploded in size over the last couple of days!  

It's so cute, whenever I take the biddies to play in the rabbit room Theodore waits by the door of his cage and starts digging to get out. Once I let him out he zooms around and binkies all over! He even dead bunny flopped in the middle of the floor until Chubs ran into him . He'll get a couple more weeks of play time until their little hormones arrive!

Chubs appears to be very blind, haha, which isn't too uncommon for REWs. He still gets along juuuust fine and just finds himself running into things more often. He probably needs to be the only bun because he can't really read the other rabbit's body language. He also was the first to dead bunny flop for me today!

Here's a video of Chubs doing the "scanning" behavior seen in rabbits with very poor eyesight

Blind bunny disapproves

Blackie is a sweetie and is getting a very nice mane! He's also mama's boy and is always cuddled up next to her

Curly is getting crazier looking everyday! He's currently been dry-sneezing every so often and had yellow goop in the fur around his eyes so I got in contact with the foster coordinator to see what to do about it

And this pic is actually from a few days ago, but they posed themselves and I couldn't resist taking a pic


User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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3/19/2012 5:15 PM

Can you feel the babies? Rabbit gestation is about 30 days, And you've had her 25 days, which would mean that she got pregnant while you have had her, which seems unlikely. She could just Be dealing with a false pregnancy since she's had so many litters on top of each other.


User is Offline Hokankai
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3/19/2012 5:21 PM
No she's due any day now, probably tonight. I've had them for almost exactly a month which is when she was brought in. When I palpated her I'm pretty sure I felt a leg or two push against my hand.

User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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3/19/2012 5:26 PM
Ooh I must've misread, I though you said she was due in 2 weeks. Losin it that's really unfortunate, that guy should be fined. I wish I could foster the mama and the new kits! Poor little love.

User is Offline Hokankai
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3/19/2012 5:32 PM

 Here are some pics of dear little Ebony. I just palpated her again (for one, she's HEAVY) and she's either pregnant or extremely bloated. When I palpated I definitely felt something twitch in her abdomen and it didn't feel like intestine to me!

 
 
 
she wasn't a fan

User is Offline FrankieFlash
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3/19/2012 6:42 PM
Poor Ebony. I hope this poor mama gets a break.

User is Offline KytKattin
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3/19/2012 8:20 PM
Poor Ebony. I am sure you already are, but are you feeding her alfalfa, unlimited alfalfa based pellets, and other high nutrient foods to help with all the energy she is expending? I am sure you are, it's just that is something I could see myself forgetting to do as I am so used to feeding for house bunnies only.

What a tough situation you and the rescue are in. I don't envy it, and I honestly don't even know if I could be as closely involved as you are without trying to save them all. Though I also understand the reality that even 1-2 more babies are so much more strain, time, money, etc for the shelter, and that is 1-2 other bunnies (especially with Easter coming up) that will end up euthanized if the kits are kept because the rescue won't be able to take them. There just doesn't seem to be a winning solution here. I really commend you for what you are doing. Keep up the amazing work.
siggy Nova and Daisy

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5/07/2012 11:27 AM

Any updates ?

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