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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > DIET & CARE > I think Comet is really sick :(
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User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 12:20 AM

Well I'm trying hard not to panic right now. Comet didn't want to eat his greens tonight....which is SO unusual for him. He normally steals his and as much of Chubs' portion as he can! Then he didn't even want a craisin which again....not normal for him in the slightest. So I picked him up to check him over and his breathing is really rattly. I called my friend (who works for our vet clinic) and asked her what to do. She gave me the on-call vet number. I called them and they basically said, well we don't know much about rabbits, which was my fear. I'm pretty rural out here and there is really only one vet that knows ANYTHING about rabbits and that's mine. So my friend called her at home and she suggested that I sit in the steam with him to try and loosen his breathing up. She's meeting me at the clinic early to give him some anti-biotics and check him out. I know that's not even good enough but I'm also so greatful she'll do that since she is not on call. The closest rabbit expert vet is 2 hours away which is so stressful for him that I'd be scared to try it on top of whatever is wrong. Not to mention, I'm on call for work and can't leave the county myself. I've got the shower as hot as it goes so the bathroom is all steamy and I put both boys in there with an ice pack to lay next to....ugh. I'm so scared!

*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline MimzMum
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01/22/2012 01:34 AM
Steaming was suggested to me as well for Mimzy's chronic nasal troubles. Can you tell if the rattling is in his sinuses or in his chest? How long has he been like this?
Buns don't want to eat much when they can't smell their food, just like us. Be sure not to let Comet or Chubs get overheated in the shower room, as that could cause other troubles.

My vet also prescribed 0.6 ml of benadryl for Mimzy when he gets sniffly, but I wouldn't medicate Comet without your vet's okay.

Vibes for Comet that he feels better soon! When he starts antibiotics he should improve rather quickly depending on what it is he has.
Hang in there! I empathize with how scary it is...they never get ill during normal hours, do they? ((((((((Hugs))))))))
Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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User is Offline MimzMum
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01/22/2012 01:41 AM
Whoops...and that was a children's liquid benadryl I mentioned...but yeah don't give him anything unless you check it with your vet first.
Do you have anything like Critical Care to syringe feed him if he's still refusing food? And that needs to be done carefully too so he doesn't aspirate it.
Poor little guy, I hope the steaming works for him.
Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 01:45 AM
Comet has always been a noisier breather and he occasionally sneezes but it's never affected his apetite or made him sound anything like this. The steaming didn't seem to help and now the hot water is out....I can't tell where the rattling is coming from as far as chest or sinuses. He ate like his normal piggy self this morning and afternoon. Then they had their veggies later than normal because I was out on a call for work around normal dinner time. He had no interest in the veggies or in craisins or carrot. I wish I had some banana to try but nothing is open and I don't. Everything I read online makes it sound like this is pnemonia and that it's really really serious and even if it isn't, if he doesn't eat, I'm worried he'll get stasis. Ugh, less than 6 hours till we see the vet...Thank you for the vibes and hugs!
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 01:47 AM
I do have a syringe from when he was on Baytril like a year and a half ago. Should I force feed him something or wait?...
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline MimzMum
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01/22/2012 01:55 AM
Could he have snorked some hay dust or other objects up his nose and his nasal passages are clogged or reacting to a foreign object? Sounds like it came on rather quickly and I don't think pneumonia progresses that fast?
Is he blowing any snot and does he feel overly warm or cold? Can you see if his gums look like a healthy pink? Are his eyes runny at all?

6 hours sure feel like forever but it shouldn't be too bad. It's good your vet is making a special trip to help.
Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 02:01 AM
He's not blowing any snot and his eyes aren't runny. His gums look slightly pale to me but they are still pink. He feels like a normal temperature to me but I don't have a thermometer or anything. It did come on fast because he was completely fine earlier today. At least, I didn't notice any breathin isssues and he was eating like his normal piggy self...I guess that is what is scaring me the most. His lack of eating...it's just not my Comet to not eat. He eats everything in sight and always acts like he has room for more.
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline MimzMum
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01/22/2012 02:09 AM
If syringe feeding is going to further stress him, I'd wait, but keep offering his favorites to see if he takes an interest. When was the last time he pooped or peed? Is he moving around at all or sitting hunched?
Any chance he has gas? How typical is it for him to go into stasis?

And of course if he looks at all worse, it still helps to seek out the ER vet if you have to. They can at least watch him and stabilise him with fluids if necessary.
Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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User is Offline MimzMum
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01/22/2012 02:34 AM
I went ahead and sent an alert to the FL's in case someone is awake and can give more advice. I'm really not sure what else we can do but watch him and wait at this point. You're in my prayers that all will work out well.
Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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01/22/2012 04:08 AM
Hi, JC&C, I guess I'm the first one up. Sorry I didn't get online earlier - been up since 6AM.
I am so glad you've made the arrangement you have already, so hopefully by now the steam has either helped or prevented him from getting worse. Please do NOT give any medication before he is seen by the vet tech or vet, as you can't risk a medication interaction or delay of what he does need with something that wasn't going to help.
Also, syringe feeding him isn't going to help yet, nor treats or fruits. He needs water to start and possibly hay to get his gut moving. If he isn't eating very wet greens, you can syringe feed him water gently, but I wouldn't force either this early yet. The vet may want you to drive him there to leave him for treatment. So instead, I'd get his carrier ready, and be ready to take notes for instructions of how to proceed and what to use. I'm thinking that after he sees your friend, you may want to continue to drive to the vet to check him in there overnight for treatment. If you're on call, it may be the best way to have him watched all day while you are available for your own duties. Otherwise, if he is readily diagnosed, just follow the instructions and take him home for treatment yourself.

Samantha just gave me a scare two mornings ago, and a call to my vet reminded me that I still had a particular med she'd prescribed in my house from the last time she stopped eating. I gave that to her asap, and then the vet wanted me to drive over bumpy roads to get her gut jostled into movement. I never had to do that because Sammy was well enough to fight me, and ran around the room which did the trick. It cleared up fast because the vet knew what it was. In your case, there is the respiratory problem, so that needs observation and the non-eating might be a very different cause.
I also gave her gentle tummy massages in case it was gas. If your bunny will tolerate it, you can soothe and massage his tummy from front to back. Even if it doesn't effect what's wrong, it may comfort him.
So I hope that you're already on your way by now and all my suggestions will be moot because he's been looked at. Hang in there!
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User is Offline RabbitPam
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01/22/2012 04:22 AM
MM, thanks for sending the alert. Btw, the reason we do not have a Medical Emergency section is because we need members to do just what JC&C did: call for immediate medical help from their own local resources. We cannot prescribe, we can't even diagnose because only a hands-on practitioner who is trained can make that kind of a call. All we can do is advise based on experience, and even that can be conflicting as you know. The following statement is at the top of each Forum page in red:

"The answers provided on this board are for general guideline purposes only. The information is not intended to diagnose or treat your pet. It is your responsibility to assess the information being given and seek professional advice/second opinion from your veterinarian and/or qualified behaviorist."

It's the best advice we give here. But we are always around for support. and of course,
{{{{{{{{{{{Healing Vibes}}}}}}}}}

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User is Offline jerseygirl
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01/22/2012 04:24 AM
{{{{{Comet!}}}}} Hang in there Jenna and keep us posted. It sounds like you have a great friend whos willing to help you out with him. Its a pity that vet clinic weren't more helpful.
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User is Offline LittlePuffyTail
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01/22/2012 05:04 AM
((((((((Comet)))))))
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User is Offline Elrohwen
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01/22/2012 06:10 AM
Vibes to Comet! Hopefully he just has a little tummy trouble and nothing requiring antibiotics.
- Elrohwen

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 06:11 AM
Thanks everyone, we're about to head over there. He hasn't eaten now in at at least 8 hours because he didn't want his greens right around midnight. This is my boy who grabs the pellet scoop and runs if I'm not fast enough dumping it out...I know something is really wrong for him to not show any interest in any food. I'm hoping the vet can help me. Thank you for all your support. I will keep you guys posted.
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline Sarita
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01/22/2012 06:30 AM
Please keep us updated. I hope it's not a heart condition either - that could be a concern as well.

Healing vibes for Comet.

User is Offline bunnyfriend
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01/22/2012 06:41 AM

Vibes for Comet!! I hope he gets better soon.

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User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 08:47 AM
Well we just got home from the vet. She said his lungs don't sound so bad and his heart sounds good, temperatue is normal. He doesn't have any masses in his tummy that indicate he's got something stuck either. She put him on Baytril but said the not eating thing is obviously our biggest concern at this point. She suggested I get some sweet hay to mix in with his regular hay to encourage him to eat it. She also gave me a nutrional paste stuff to dab in his mouth. It's good for him but she's hoping it will spark his apetite. Now I just wait and hope...thanks for all the good vibes and thoughts!
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 09:29 AM
I just called a rabbit vet in Portland to see if they have any other suggestions...they are open but were busy. I left a message. I will start calling others if they don't call me back soon. I'm wondering if I should force feed him a little water which is what I want to ask them....ugh.
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Online Monkeybun
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01/22/2012 09:34 AM
Any response yet? I can call a couple for you as well if needed.

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01/22/2012 09:39 AM
And if needed, the Bunderground Railroad is standing by ready for you

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 10:12 AM
Yeah, I got a hold of someone. They told me to call around and see if any of the pet stores had Oxbow Critical Care and if not, to dissolve some pellets in water and feed him with the syringe. None of the pet stores have any...I did feed him some pellets in water. I don't know how much to make him eat. We did like 8 syringes full. He's grooming himself now because he got all messy and I wiped him down...I think that's good. I guess I will just do this like once an hour and see if he eats anything on his own...
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Online Monkeybun
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01/22/2012 10:14 AM
keep us updated!

It may also help if you can get him moving around. Movement will help break up anything in his little tummy that is causing issues.

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 10:16 AM

Does that mean I should herd him around? I don't want to stress him out too much but I see what you're saying.

*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 10:18 AM
He is sitting in the litter box grooming right now. He's been hiding in his box tunnel otherwise since we got back from the vet, before I picked him up to feed him.
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 10:25 AM
He just took a nibble of hay!
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 10:34 AM
Just a nibble though and it's back to sitting, next to the litter box now. And I just saw that Monkey, lol, what is the bunderground railroad? And thanks for offering to help.
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Online Monkeybun
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01/22/2012 10:58 AM
It's a thing I volunteer for, transporting bunnies cross country to rescues/new forever homes etc. SI'm not called to do it often, but its great for the bunnies Figured the term applied nicely here too

User is Offline Jenna, Chubs & Comet
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01/22/2012 11:13 AM
Thanks Monkey. I just did our second round of feeding with the syringe as he's not eating yet.
*~Jenna (aka bunny mama of Chubs & Comet)~*

User is Offline littlemissflip
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01/22/2012 12:17 PM
Did your vet prescribe or talk to you about motility meds, like Reglan? If Comet is developing GI statis, a motility med can help get his digestive tract moving and encourage him to eat.
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