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BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > HOUSE RABBIT Q & A > is my rabbit... actually a.... holland lop?
Last Post by DutchBunniesFtw at 01/28/2012 05:29 PM (37 Replies)
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User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 08:17 PM

when i adopted him from a rescue i was told that he was a holland lop but he really looks like a mini lop... (when i visited there was another rabbit that was an actual holland lop and he looked totally different compared to my rabbit)

so i just said that he was a mini lop. but he is around 6 months old and 3 and 1/2 lbs... i know that rabbits stop growing at 6 months and i highly doubt that he will gain 3 more lbs especially since he should not grow that much anymore? his face is oval and not round. his ears are skinnier than a normal holland lop ears and they are a tad longer than a holland lop's ear. his head seems to be small in comparison to his body.

here are some pics

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/66580029@N07/


User is Offline LBJ10
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01/21/2012 08:32 PM

What a cutie! You know, it's sort of hard to tell from the pictures. Is his face really that long or is it the broken pattern creating an optical illusion?

I'm trying to find a good pic of Leopold. He is for sure a Holland lop, so maybe we can compare?

BTW, Leopold weighs about 4 lbs.


User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 08:36 PM
hm you have a point! the broken markings may be creating some optical illusion... but his face does look more oval than a normal holland lops face and awww your rabbit is so cute! and hmmm in the first he really does look like my bunny.

but what i've noticed was that he doesnt have a "flat" nose/ face. his nose is pointy-ish rather than flat like a hollands nose.

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 08:38 PM
the only thing different between your rabbit and mine is that my rabbits nose is pointier.. thats about it. maybe a TAD bit more oval but not that much

User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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01/21/2012 08:43 PM
Def a Holland. He's at prime weight, rabbits reach full growth at 6 months, 3 1/2 lbs would be a holland, a mini would be closer to 5/6lbs. His ears also reach past his chin, which mini's stop just at the chin.

User is Offline Roberta
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01/21/2012 08:56 PM

This is a pic I found of a Broken Black Holland Lop at a rabbitry, he is apparently large for his breed at 4.05lbs


User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 08:56 PM
oh really sam? i thought it was the other way around! (with the ears) because i saw on youtube this gray mini lop eating parsley and her ears were past her chin and she was a mini lop ;o

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 08:58 PM
@ roberta, thanks for the pic! but my rabbits face isnt as round and his nose isnt flat. and his nose is quite "small". and my rabbits head is small compared to his body... and im pretty sure hes not over weight! lol

User is Offline Tipsy Bunny
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01/21/2012 09:12 PM
It could be that whoever bred him, some gene in either parent was expressed and is shown in his phenotype, like his nose being a tad different than the breed standard of a Holland Lop. But he looks Holland to me.
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User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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01/21/2012 09:13 PM
I wouldn't worry about the head shape, that can be affected by many things, including different breeding. Not all lops are standard show quality, either, so there can be some variance in ear length and head shape, however there wont be in weight. If you had a mini, he would be closer to 5-6lbs by now. Since hes a healthy 3.5, hes definitely a holland. And a super cute holland at that

User is Offline LBJ10
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01/21/2012 09:30 PM
I think he's a Holland. The others are right, sometimes they can vary a bit and not display the breed's standard characteristics.

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 09:33 PM
ahh that makes sense, tipsy! and aw thanks sam ! so its NOT possible that a mini lop can weigh 3 and 1/2 lbs at 6 months of age? on his adoption paper she said that he weigh "approx 3lbs" and when i visited him i also held an actual holland lop and they were both the same weight (or so it seems!)

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 09:35 PM

oh and heres a pic i found off of google images and his face shape looks almost identical to my rabbits face shape.

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=617&tbm=isch&tbnid=8jEG3s6PHAQnZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.facebook.com/note.php%3Fnote_id%3D495122333121&docid=zrtzzIM1QXV-NM&imgurl=http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167762_497087281036_26962661036_5914019_3553414_n.jpg&w=720&h=540&ei=960bT8e1Kojatgewy5ywCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=876&vpy=65&dur=529&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=57&ty=125&sig=100380636484332443454&page=2&tbnh=137&tbnw=187&start=21&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:22,s:21

 

sort of... lol


User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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01/21/2012 10:00 PM
No, its not possible, he'd be pretty emaciated. Head shape isn't a part of determining breed. Why don't you want him to be a holland lop?

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/21/2012 10:41 PM
oh okay, and no its fine if hes a holland lop! holland lops are adorable, in fact i've always wanted a holland but they didnt have any in the rescue group i was adopting from. (except for him and the other rabbit that i visited; the one with malocclusion) but i just want to be sure lol... thanks

User is Offline Elrohwen
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01/22/2012 05:55 AM
At his size, he's definitely holland - minis aren't that small. Not all bunnies are going to look like those bred for show - it's very common to have a non-show quality holland whose face looks more like a mini lop so at that point you just have to base it on weight.
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User is Offline SirThumpsey
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01/22/2012 09:23 AM
Actually when I first saw him I thought Holland Lop...

User is Offline bunnyfriend
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01/22/2012 09:35 AM
Huh weird! When I asked about my lop here on BB I was told that she wasn't a Holland because of her face and ears, even though she weighs 3 pounds. Bleh rabbit breeds are confusing.
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User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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01/22/2012 09:50 AM
She looks like a holland to me Bunnyfriend

User is Online Monkeybun
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01/22/2012 09:54 AM
I'd say holland too bunnyfriend

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/22/2012 09:58 AM
i agree rabbit breeds are confusing

User is Online Monkeybun
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01/22/2012 10:01 AM
I spent alot of my time learning about different bunny breeds when i was first looking for first house bun here. it's amazing how different they can be, but have similar traits hen not "perfect" show bunnies.

User is Offline Sam and Lady's Human
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01/22/2012 10:07 AM
Actually I was incorrect, both Holland and Mini should have an ear length of 1/2 to 1in past the chin. So it really depends on weight then, to differentiate. Any length shorter or longer doesn't mean its not a lop, just not the breed "standard" or whatever. I personally love the longer ears <3

User is Offline bunnyfriend
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01/22/2012 10:22 AM

Haha okay thanks lol

I just noticed how everyones' Hollands here on this thread are broken black and whites (mine is dark grey but looks black sometimes) heehee, i think it's a super cute coloring.

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User is Offline Elrohwen
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01/22/2012 10:37 AM
Bunnyfriend, maybe we missed the weight you posted and went by face shape - she sounds like a holland to me!

Btw, we love our little moo cow lop bunnies. haha
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User is Offline SirThumpsey
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01/22/2012 10:41 AM
I love the broken black lops, they are soo cute.
My bud is a black tortioseshell holland lop..which i know of a few buns on here are.

I have always had a soft spot for lops.

And the ones with really long ears are ADORABLE!

User is Offline Ali925
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01/22/2012 11:52 AM

Very cute!

Looks like my Oreo!!

she's a holland lop and weighs 4.5 lbs..My other holland weighs 3.  They can definitely vary quite a bit.  And they're both pure bred.  Either way, you're bun is adorable   And I'm completely biased because I love lops...


User is Online Monkeybun
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01/22/2012 05:11 PM
My holland isn't a broken coloring He's a sable point

User is Offline HoneysBuns
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01/25/2012 08:43 AM
I have also noticed lots of people breeding holland lops with other dwarf breeds. I had a mini lop and he looked identical to my holland lop, just twice his size! I also just rescued a lop who is slightly larger then my holland lop, but has a very pointy face, so its possible that she has some other kind of rabbit in her, though the spca said she was an american fuzzy lop (definitely not though!) because thats what her previous owners said she and her family was. I think that a lot of rabbits just haven't been bred with "show quality" in mind. But they're still all cute!

User is Offline DutchBunniesFtw
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01/25/2012 09:08 AM
ohhh yeah, he most likely is a mix. and yeah i guess (: i honestly dont know how much he weighs exactly (but im going to check today) the rescue said that he weigh 3 and 1/2 lbs and i havent held him yet because he wont let me pick him up
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