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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Landlords grrr

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    • Kai Loves Olive
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         I rent my house, and my lease first said “no cats or dogs, caged animals ok” but after my landlord made the second draft it just reads “no pets” th house was too good to pass up and I already had olive so I just waited after move in day to bring him over, my landlord called the other day and said since we’re half way though the year she might stop by and check in us. She said she didn’t know when.

        When we moved in olive had a cage and was out most of the night, if the landlord came I figured I could put him with a friend. I’ve since turned into a bunny slave and he lives in the “Harry potter closet” or the closet under our stairs haha. I don’t know how I can easily hide the: baby gate, litter box with hay rack, his nic cube shelf I built his toys, his cage and him with out it taking an hour at least

        Can I tell my landlord NOT to come over, until I have him hidden or can she come whenever she wants?

        We’re resigning the lease in may, should I ask her if I can have a “caged rabbit” and leave out the fact he lives in the closet, and free roams? Or should I ask her now if I can have him? Or is that too risky? What if she says no? then I’m specifically disobeying. As of right now I could say “I thought you ment cats or dogs? Landlords don’t normally mind small animals”



        I don’t know I’m so stressed out!

        doesn’t that look complicated to take apart at a moments notice? what should i do?


      • Stickerbunny
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          You’re renting, they can come over when they want – you can request she give you notice, but she doesn’t really have to. If you don’t want to admit to having a pet though and see if you can get permission (do it after the inspection) call up and ask if you could get a rabbit. Don’t mention the free roam part, most people think of rabbits as caged pets. Don’t mention you already have one. Just ask if it would be OK to get one. If your land lord says no and you are found out as having a rabbit though, she is within her rights to say get rid of it or leave.


        • Monkeybun
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            They have to give 24 hours notice by law.


          • Stickerbunny
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              That varies by state Monkey.

              State Amount of notice required for landlord to enter
              Alabama No statute
              Alaska 24 hours
              Arizona Two days
              Arkansas No statute
              California 24 hours
              Colorado No statute
              Connecticut Reasonable notice
              Delaware Two days
              District of Columbia No statute
              Florida 12 hours
              Georgia No statute
              Hawaii Two days
              Idaho No statute
              Illinois No statute
              Indiana No statute
              Iowa 24 hours
              Kansas Reasonable notice
              Kentucky Two days
              Louisiana No statute
              Maine 24 hours
              Maryland No statute
              Massachusetts No notice requirements in statute
              Michigan No statute
              Minnesota Reasonable notice
              Mississippi No statute
              Missouri No statute
              Montana 24 hours
              Nebraska One day
              Nevada 24 hours
              New Hampshire Notice which is adequate under the circumstances
              New Jersey No statute
              New Mexico 24 hours
              New York No statute
              North Carolina No statute
              North Dakota Reasonable notice
              Ohio 24 hours
              Oklahoma One day
              Oregon 24 hours
              Pennsylvania No statute
              Rhode Island Two days
              South Carolina 24 hours
              South Dakota No statute
              Tennessee No notice requirements in statute
              Texas No statute
              Utah No notice requirements in statute
              Vermont 48 hours
              Virginia 24 hours
              Washington Two days
              West Virginia No statute
              Wisconsin Reasonable notice
              Wyoming No statute

              … my land lords “reasonable notice” (our states law) was considered to be like, letting us know “sometime this week I will be … ” or “sometime during this day I will…”


            • FrankieFlash
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                I’m in the same position (renting condo with no pet policy) but I plan on playing innocent if they catch me off guard and i’m not able to hide bun. But I take some comfort when I re-read the lease agreement that says my landlord has to give me 24 hours notice if they want to show it, etc. But the living in fear of eviction mid-semester has made my decision to not re-new easy. I’ll be looking for looser pet policy place next year. Maybe you should consider looking around before you resign if they don’t agree to rabbit like Stickerbunny suggested.


              • Monkeybun
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                  Guess I’m still used to Canada lol.


                • Stickerbunny
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                    lol yeah, laws being so different from state to state is annoying. o.O

                    Edit: But if you can find your lease, the rule will be on it.  


                  • BinkyBunny
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                      Hopefully you are in a state that requires notice. (thanks for that list stickerbunny!)  If so, I would respond to her and say “sure, no problem, just give us heads up with 24 hours notice so we can be sure to be here are and we are not in middle of something.”  Even if your state shows no status, which I don’t really no what no status means exactly, it wouldn’t be unreasonable to be given a few hours notice so you are not in the middle of something. I mean even under normal circumstances I wouldn’t want my landlord to just pop in to inspect the house. That is just impolite as you could be in the middle of something, nap, shower, have company, you could be sick..whatever.    Also if someone works a graveyard shift I would think it would be necessary to specify a time frame.  

                       

                       

                       


                    • Stickerbunny
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                        No statute just means there is no law on the books, but yes I agree it would be bad manners to drop in unannounced. I had a land lord once that didn’t even knock, he’d just walk in if he happened to be on the property. Ugh. I don’t think that was legal. lol


                      • bunnyfriend
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                          I would do what Stickerbunny suggested. Ask your landlord if getting a rabbit would be okay and also ask for heads up. If the landlord says no right away to the rabbit then maybe you could explain and clarify the misconceptions about rabbits being dirty, ect. I think I remember another member here on BB explained things to their landlord and the landlord said okay to the rabbit. Good luck


                        • Roberta
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                            Thankfully down here Down Under even though they can give notice of inspection they cannot enter the property without your permission. (Although refusing them entry would arouse suspicion)
                            Worst case scenario if caught. “A friend had to return home to care for her parent/sibling/grandparent after a sudden death/tragic accident/unplanned event etcetcetc in the family, and was unable to take her much loved rabbit. The option was to take him to a shelter where he would be put down so you decided to take him in” Break into tears, plead compassion and offer tyo pay a “Pet Bond”.


                          • Roberta
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                              Alternatively you could plead ignorance and state that your lease said caged animals are OK. When she shows you the second draft act stunned and appalled.


                            • Beka27
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                                Posted By Roberta on 12/04/2011 05:01 PM
                                Alternatively you could plead ignorance and state that your lease said caged animals are OK. When she shows you the second draft act stunned and appalled.

                                I would do this.  Especially since you say the original paper said “No cats/dogs” specifically.  If you were told that originally, that’s kinda crappy for the landlord to then change it on you.  But… IMO you would need to put her in a pet store cage for the inspection and clean out that closet.  I would have her front and center, in her plastic bottom cage, and then feign ignorance if she says anything.  I would be hesitant about having a DIY NIC cage for the bunny b/c the landlord might question the security of the condo.

                                Do you have a copy of the first paper?  I would make sure that this is”tucked away” in a file drawer, but something you could retrieve within a minute of “searching”.  Tell her your paper said you could have a caged pet or whatever, tell her to hold on a moment, you’re going to “look for” your paperwork, show it to her… and that should be that.


                              • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                  I had a similar situation and a similar bunny house!!!

                                  I put the bunnies on lockdown in their condo in the storage closet just like yours. I then piled junk in front of junk and draped sheets in front. I put on fans and a radio and was home when they dropped in. They did not notice. They were employees and not a home owner though.

                                  I do like Roberta’s suggestion too-rather then try to hide them. In my case I was in the right…but in yours it does specify so hiding them could be seen as deliberate…. so Roberta’s suggestion is great. You could also have the door closed to the closet, she may not check, and then plead ignorance. I would not resign this until this walk through has happened.


                                • longhairmike
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                                    if the landlord has any OTHER properties,, first have a friend call from their phone to inquire about one of them.


                                  • RabbitPam
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                                      I wouldn’t try to hide, just contain in a neat, clean, limited space, caged.
                                      You can make up a story like “someone I know at work had a bunny they couldn’t keep and begged me to take it. Since I remembered reading in the lease that caged animals were OK, I couldn’t say no. Bunnies are very clean and silent, so they are no problem indoors. I can’t give the bunny up now, it would go to a shelter and be euthenized. I hope it’s ok.”

                                      Sticker, it’s not legal. An apartment complex can legally enter in case of an emergency, like a fire alarm/smoke detector going off. But if you’re inside, no. That’s why people buy and install little chain locks on the doors. It won’t stop a burgler from breaking in, but will darn well keep out a landlord from invasion of privacy when you are there to let them in after they knock. If a landlord walks in without calling, knocking or giving notice, dial 911 fast. Then explain to the police in his presence that you thought it was a burgler.

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