what the heck is this?

[Prodigy32410]

Ok so let me do the best i can to describe what you are all looking at.

 

This is smokey- we were told it was a boy- i even dbl checked and i could see the penis. (or well i thought so) Anyways, my girlfriend and i have discovered a few odd things about smokey.

http://i53.tinypic.com/11hgiyq.jpg

#1 You see the bright red spot? well theres a section, about an oval size that is and inch and a half in diameter that looks like a pouch? Possible babies? only issue is that this pouch is located right NEXT to his/her thigh, not in the mid-section of the body.

 

#2 Now notice the white weird thing sticking out. ok. at first it wasnt like that, it was just a lump, my girlfriend went to invistigate and she brushed away some poop and then this lil sucker comes out. The location of it is looks like its coming out of that pouch behind its left leg…..

 

 

[LBJ10]

I can’t see the pic.

[lashkay]

Try copying the link and pasting it in your webaddress finder, then hit enter

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

See a vet now please. We are not vets and cannot provide health advice. However I do know that is NOT what the underside of a rabbit should look like, that looks very painful, dangerous…please keep us posted on what the vet says!

[Michelle&Lolli]

Yes, please get your bunny to a rabbit vet. If it’s close to legs it’s not part of the reproductive system. I looked at the picture and it looks like an infected sore. Not that I am a vet or anything but that’s what it looked like to me. Definitely needs vet attention.

[Prodigy32410]

well he isnt showing any signs of pain at all- still running around and dancing and eating and grooming just fine- really weird. Will get him in a vet asap

[Prodigy32410]

thank you all for your support and wisdom- all i ever could ask for

[Michelle&Lolli]

A lot of times rabbits won’t show that they are in pain. It’s due to them being prey animals and instinctively not showing any form of weakness. So we get really good at inspecting their poop and monitoring their eating and looking for very subtle signs. And when it doubt, always take them to a vet! I hope it turns out to be nothing major. Please keep us updated!

[Kokaneeandkahlua]

Goodness-glad you will see a vet with her! Ditto-it can be very serious by the time they look or act sick; Please keep us posted!! I hope Smokey feels better soon!
Can I ask why her bottom looks wet? Did she have a bath?

[LBJ10]

Okay, I see the picture now. Whatever it is, it doesn’t look normal. Not that I’m a vet either.

[Prodigy32410]

yep- we were washing her feets

[BinkyBunny]

Hard to figure out with the photo, but if I just go by your written description I would have thought genitals and anus. The anus will sometimes pucker outward when wiped.

This is what a normal rabbits undersides will look like 

http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/…xing.shtml (see 3rd photo)  

 http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/articles/sexingboys.shtml

http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/articles/sexinggirls.shtml

There are anal glands as well that are pouches that go inward on either side of the genitals. Males will also have testicles that can begin to show around 3 or so months, but under stress, they can actually retract them into there body a bit.

However, from your photo, I can’t tell what is going on really, and the anus, penis, anal glands and testicles should all be near each other between the back legs toward the tail.  

As far as babies, rabbits don’t have babies via a pouch as they are not marsupials. so I’m not sure what you were seeing there when you asked “babies?”. If you see anything moving that is not part of the rabbit’s body,  it would be a parasite and because you said you were cleaning and removed poop (was it caked on?) I do worry about flystrike since I didn’t fully understand your question about the babies.

Did you notice any pus?  Foul smell?  Just wondering about abscess as well.  

Again, very difficult to tell by that photo! 

[Prodigy32410]

yeah sorry the photo was crappy.

My gf removed poops that was clinging on to that white spot on the picture- the white thingy sticking out is on his butt cheek i guess you would say and it is a little puss like material. No foul smell. He has a weird leg too mind you all- something i didnt mention, he can move his foot but his hip flexor doesnt move at all. almost like its stuck in its location for good.

The reason i asked about babies- was because on his underside, there seems to be a pouch formed right next to his weird leg and there is a red part of it showing through the fur- alot like a bruise shows through the skin- these pictures suck >.< i will take some more tonight if needed and so you all can get a better look at things.

[BinkyBunny]

hmmm. Could be an abscess — Pus in rabbits is very thick — sort of cottage cheesy. Very gross. Not all smell horribly foul, but it’s common. Abcesses can get really nasty in rabbits due to the way they can grow…it can grow tentacles to attach to muscle and bone. But if you can catch it early enough, it may be able to be treated without surgery with flushing, antibiotics etc from the vet.

so was the “sucker” the same place as the the white thing that has some pus possibly? Otherwise I think the “sucker thing” could be just his anus. LOL.

How old his he and how long has his leg been like that? Was it from a previous injury or when you got him was it splayed out?

Have you had your bunny checked out by a vet before? If not, do you have one in mind? One that is rabbit-savvy or can we help you with that?

Edited to add:  The sucker thing got me thinking too — sometimes when abscesses form and create a little mound of sorts, then it can open up which can make it look circular/oval with white stuff in the middle. Sometimes that stuff pushes out by pressure, but other times it’s just thick stuck under the flesh, yet you can see it because it is open.  Is that more like what you are seeing? 

[Beka27]

Oh… there’s nothing like reading abscess descriptions first thing in the morning… thanks for that BB :o/

Let us know what the vet says. There is something else going on if he is getting poop caked on him, because rabbits are typically very good at keeping themselves clean. I’m guessing that could be related to his mobility issues tho, and an abscess could occur if he’s not able to walk/hop correctly and is putting undue pressure on the area.

What has been done for his leg issue, has he been examined and have x-rays been taken to get at the root of the problem?

Also, how old is he and what are his housing conditions like? Keep us posted on what the vet says please.

[Prodigy32410]

Okie dokie- here’s an update for you all- it fell off. Lol, its like a little round hairball like thing with some kind of white puss in it, it didnt come from his pooper (thank God) and wherever it came from isnt really too noticable- just kind closed up by itself? Im not sure.

@ BB- you nailed it on the head, it must be an abscess because its thick and cottage cheese like (great description right there!) Smokey is about 3 months old from what i can tell judging with my history of raising bunnies to rabbits. Now his leg condition, he was like that when we got him, poor little smokey was at a feed and he was the only bunny left in a huge cage full of gueniea pigs. It was just dumb luck that i walked in there to get fresh timothy hay for our other bunny, “Princess BBZ”, that i took notice of him. The moment i picked him up he pretty much just sank in my arms and gave me a few kisses and was content. I also noticed that his “hip” area was really tight and not loose and he didnt move it at all. the foot and leg part is fine- he still puts pressure on it to this day and is fine with it. As for the vet situation- we have a vet that we have gone to before for Princess already however that specific vet is on vacation for another week or so. He seems to be just fine, as usual, running around, kissing, grooming pooping solids etc etc.

@ Beka- What exactly is an Abscess in regards to bunnies having them. You said that it can occur cuz of the lack of hopping and what not.

Of course i will continue to update hourly until i sleep everyday (when i can) for now we have him in his own little cage with plenty of fresh greens and hay for him and of course water.

Thank you everyone! I really do appreciate it

[jerseygirl]

Goodness, that is weird it fell off. I wonder if it was infection around testicle area or the testicle itself?… BB mention of flystrike has me thinking of botfly warbles or an abscess where a warble had been. That can form a lump under the skin.

What ever it was, I think it’d be wise to have him seen by another vet if yours is away. If there was an infection (looked like it to me) he will need to be on some rabbit safe antibiotics. If toxins or bad bacteria get into the bloodstream it needs to be treated. The sooner the better. If an alternate vet isn’t rabbit-savvy, they can always ring one who is is for advice and still be able to give a prescription. You could take the thing that fell off to be looked at also.

[BinkyBunny]

 What a sweet story of how he won you over!   

 

Regarding the thingy — the thingy that fell off.  Now I’m stumped.  Abscesses don’t really fall off as they form from within.  

 

Maybe the pus from an abscess oozed out (I know…elch!) and  balled up into his fur and that’s what came off?  But that still means that the source is still there — a cut or wound — check around his back area and look for a wound.  The fact that his back leg doesn’t work correctly and there was possibly a ball of pus, makes me think that he has a cut, wound, bite somewhere on that leg –that not only got infected but is making it hurt for him to move the leg or his leg has stiffened due to the injury and/or infection. (that could have happened with other bunnies he was housed with or even with the guinea pigs.)  Has he been around your female and if so, did they get into a scuffle or anything?

 

Rabbits are very good at masking pain.  I had a bunny that had a very nasty abscess on her hip once (Bailey)— she could not have been comfortable, but she hopped around and acted normally.  The abscess had at first just presented itself as a scab from a scuffle she had gotten into with my other bunny, and I did not pay close enough attention to it. (I’ve learned since then as that happened about 9 years ago.) Anyway, by the time I noticed that underneath the scab a mound (abscess) was growing, it had attached to muscle and it cost me over $800 as she needed surgery at that point. I waited too long and I could have saved myself $$. If I caught it early, i may have solved it for $150 – vet appt, antibiotics from the vet and flushing the wound with a vet prescribed solution — (DON’T use hydrogen peroxide as ironically, that can actually help spread the infection), but even more importantly, I could have avoided her from having to go through surgery.  She did fine though and it never returned.  

 

The reason I think it is important to have this checked out by a rabbit-savvy vet sooner than later is that many abscesses can grow fast.  

 

So try to search for a source — look for a wound, even a little scab.  Sometimes the surface is small but the infection underneath could be brewing. 

 

[Prodigy32410]

ok gotcha. look for a wound and report it! Ill look first thing when i get home and try to find another bunny-savvy vet.

@BB. Well…. Princess would always mount smokey when they first met lol- but i think that was because she was simply saying: “Hi! I was here earlier then you and welcome to the family!” Personally- i think smokey was traumatized after that haha.

Thank you all again!

[BinkyBunny]

Haha — yes, Princess was saying “Welcome to HER Queendom….I am queen around here and don’t forget that.” Being that he was a little guy probably at the time with not as much hormonally driven to develop a Kingdom just yet, he was probably just stunned. However, now with him being three months, his hormones are (or will be soon) kicking in. He’ll want to mate and depending on his true nature of whether he’s a dominant bunny or not, he may try mount for several reasons. So watch for fights if the roles of top bun shift. Hopefully Princess is spayed or at least you are keeping them separate if she’s not.

You are welcome. And keep us updated.

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