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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 08/26/2010 05:39 PM |
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That was bittersweet to see. Hard to believe that is Mops there, so still. He will know how much he is loved. Deirdra and Lint it seems have already said goodbye. From the 1st video it looks like Neigey gets it now too. It made me tear up again too but I'm glad I watched it. |
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 MirBearKitchener, Ont. Ca.
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| 08/26/2010 07:18 PM |
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they all look so.. sad  especially neigey.. , i can only imagin what your going through, he lived a great life with you, you were an amazing bunny mum. i will light a candle tonight, it will be a first for me, but you and mops deserve it. i am so so sorry. (~(~(~( HUGS to you and the buns )~)~)~) |
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| 08/26/2010 09:05 PM |
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I am so sorry you lost Mops. I remember when I first joined BB we had a thread started about which celebrities our rabbits look like, and you posted Mops' photo and I replied with a photo of Harrison Ford in his Indiana Jones outfit and you didn't know who he was, and I was shocked! I always thought and always will think Mops is a very stunning looking rabbit and a handsome little man. I know he is in a great place right now binking around. I will miss him a lot, your rabbits are very special here. I will be thinking of you and your other buns, my guys here all give you bunny kisses and hugs from me. |
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| 08/27/2010 01:18 AM |
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I just watched you videos. I think they all look at peace with it, and that they know Mops is gone. Hopefully this will help them through their mourning proces. I hope the trio will be strong without Mops. If anyone can bond them, it is you.
I have read the links, and from what I understand, enzymes from papaya or pinapple cannot help. I am more than puzzled now, because of what they claim to be the cause in the articles, but I think we should move that discussion to another thread and not in in this one.
About him hurting...it is my belief that bunnies actually are not in pain as such like the way you and I or our cats and dogs can be. Because rabbits are prey animals, they have another way of coping with pain, and they don't feel it the same way. This is what I have always been told, and I choose to believe this. Anything else wouldn't make sense in nature. So, please don't worry about him being in pain.
Also, when people and animals are dying, the system shuts down, and pain is actually not felt. He has been feeling tired, that's it. |
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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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 RabbitPamSouth Florida
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| 08/27/2010 01:55 AM |
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Petzy, those clips are so sad. But it makes me see how much it seems to help bonded bunnies know what has happened. It almost looks like each one checks Mops for breath, going up to his nose. They seem to understand after thoroughly touching him and prodding the bag for any movement. It's the same for each. I know this is better for them than Mops just disappearing since they would search for him. They look like they are young and don't actually understand what has happened though. Like there isn't an elder bunny there to explain that all of us die, so it's their first experience and they are confused about it.
He looks peaceful. And Karla is quite right. I had forgotten that my vet told me that when Spockie was dying. He was out of pain from his systems shutting down long before he finally went.
If it's not too much trouble I would like to see videos of your three in a couple of days just to know how they are getting along. Don't worry about the bonding situation. I think they are close enough that they will work it out among them. They are grieving, and I expect they will try to help and comfort each other, and you. |
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  Sarita(Dallas)
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| 08/27/2010 02:56 AM |
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I don't think the videos are at all macabre - I think they are fascinating and sad too. I'd love updates on the trio as well.
I've only had one experience with a bonded pair where one died (well I put her to sleep - Twizzler). It was at the vet's office so I think that Toffee was more distracted than a comfort to Twizzler in her last few minutes. I have to think it just wasn't peaceful for Twizzler or Toffee with dogs barking and pigs squealing. So Toffee's response was not at all like your three's. It was more confusion and discomfort from the vet's office. I do often wonder what I could have done differently since it was a planned euthanasia rather than an unexpected death. I know Toffee is just fine now but I have to wonder what I could have done better for Twizzler. |
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| 08/27/2010 06:56 AM |
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I'm sorry for your loss - I know it is extra hard to lose one of a group, as the group still needs you but you need time to grieve.
I also showed the body to my group when I had to put one down, I was hoping it would help them understand better than one leaving for the vets and just never coming home. I don't think that is inappropriate, and I think you made a good decision in taking him home to his warren. I am sure it was a relief to him to be with his loved ones when he left.
I hope you find something that will bring you comfort and emotional healing, and I hope the trio will do well together. |
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 KokaneeandkahluaEdmonton, Alberta; Canada
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RabbitPamSouth Florida
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| 08/29/2010 02:26 AM |
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Sarita, I just want to say that we were here with you when you were going through it with Twizzler, and you did everything humanly possible, including deciding that the vet was the place she needed to be. Please don't second guess it. You chose the best option at the time. And Toffee being there may not have been comforting, but it still was important for both Toffee and Twizzler. We all make our best choices in the moment, and that's all we can do. Decisions like these are made under stress and in the grief of losing our beloved ones, so we just go with what we know and can decide at that moment. Petzy too. It's especially hard to look back after the facts are all in and our heads and hearts are clear and not be hard on our recent selves. You two deserve as much compassion and comfort as your bunnies received in their final hours. Be gentle, Petzy and Sarita. You are fabulous bunny moms. |
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 Moonlight_WolfUnited States of America, Pittsford, New York
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| 08/29/2010 03:17 AM |
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Oh! I am so sorry about mops. I actually just saw this tread now, because I usually don't like to visit this section because it is too sad.
Healing vibes are being sent your way! And Binky free vibes are being sent to mops. |
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 Beka27Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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| 08/29/2010 03:55 AM |
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I didn't watch the videos. Just seeing the stills was enough to get me teared up. I'm so happy you have the other 3 to help you thru this difficult time.
(((Continued peaceful vibes to you.))) |
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| 08/29/2010 05:40 AM |
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oh Petzy. i am so upset my self to hear about this. i wish i had found this thread sooner. i am praying for you and your buns. |
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 FluffyBunnyBoulder, Colorado
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| 08/29/2010 05:50 AM |
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I'm so sorry to hear about Mops. He was a very handsome rabbit. His death certainly wasn't your fault; blockages can happen to almost any rabbit, with very little warning and little that can be done. Mops was very lucky to have a great owner and his three bunny friends, and I'm glad that he was able to spend his last few hours with you. From the pictures I've seen of him, he seemed to be a very happy bunny.
Those videos are interesting, but quite sad. The other bunnies seemed to understand exactly what was going on after they checked him for breath and tried to wake him up.
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Here comes Mr. Bunny-tail,
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 PetzyNorthern AB Canada
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| 08/29/2010 10:41 AM |
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The worst thing is I keep finding his hairs on my clothes.
I just wish I had spoiled him more. |
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did something happen or can I just go back to my hay?" |
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 ElrohwenHudson Valley, NY
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| 08/29/2010 12:08 PM |
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Petzy, I can't believe I didn't see this until today. I am so so so sorry to hear about poor Mops. He was always my favorite of the quartet and my heart is breaking for you :-( Binky free, little Mops. |
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PetzyNorthern AB Canada
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| 08/30/2010 06:55 AM |
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I asked Dana Krempels what she thought of Mops dying so fast from a GI episode.
She wrote that a gastric bloat can come on very suddenly, and for no apparent reason. It *might* be due to a bit of fur blocking the pyloric sphincter, but perfectly healthy, short-haired rabbits have this happen, too. No one knows what triggers it, but the bottom line is that the pyloric sphincter or the small intestine becomes pinched off, and then there is no way for anything to exit the stomach. If the bloat has gone on too long, necrosis of the intestines can result (from lack of blood supply, as the tissues get squashed and pinched off), and cardiac arrest sometimes follows the relief of the gas. She said that with a gastric bloat, if it's not caught and treated within the first couple of hours, death is usually certain, and that It's one of the most horrible things you can see in a rabbit.
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 mrmacSan Diego, CA
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| 08/30/2010 11:12 AM |
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All the more reason not to blame yourself. It was a tragic accident that could not have been prevented in any rabbit, Mops just got unlucky. |
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| 08/31/2010 07:16 AM |
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I was just in the lounge and started reading your post about the quartet minus one. I freaked out and headed to this forum right away... I'm so sad to find out that Mops has passed on. He was such a cutie-pie. I know I don't post much on BB, but I do read a lot of posts and I always enjoyed hearing about the antics of your darling quartet, Petzy. Calypso and Echo send snuggles to your remaining three. Binky free, little Mops!
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 babybunsmumWaterloo ON Canada
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| 08/31/2010 09:02 AM |
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oh no petzy!!! i'm so so sorry to read about sweet mops crossing the bridge. i lost my first bun this way and i know how horrible it is to know it's too late. ***big big hugs of comfort to you***
i think the videos presenting mops to the remaining trio are def not macabre. what a considerate, caring and loving thing to do for your buns! you are blessed to have had that opportunity. i noticed how they sniffed and held at mops' nose and wonder if that's how they realize their mate has passed? when pinky cuddles with me she likes to put her nose by my nose as if to feel me breathe i think. |
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 MimzMumInterior Alaska
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| 08/31/2010 01:49 PM |
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Dear Petzy, I am giving you a huge hug right now and weeping my heart out for you and dear Mops! He was and is a very special bun who always made me laugh with his antics and his Lion King look. He rests in the arms of his Creator now, and waits for the opportunity to be in your arms as well, someday.
Your post about the possibility of bloat sounds quite reasonable. I watched two huge dogs go through GDV, one of them almost leaving us on the drive in to the vet. Even when you know it is coming from previous experience, you keep telling yourself it can't be happening again.
It is one of those things that I can imagine you can't possibly distinguish from regular gastric blockage in small animals. But the sudden enlargement of the mass hints that this was the diagnosis. And yes...once those toxins build up and the blood gets cut off, it's fatal from there. How I wish the bunnies could talk so we could know these things! With how good they are at hiding their illnesses, we often don't know what's up until it is just too late. We do all that we can with the information we have at the time.
Your videos will be most helpful I think, for those of us who have multiple bunnies...for someday we will all have to say goodbye, and I will be glad of the opportunity to see how a proper bunny farewell is to be done. Thank you.
Once again, I grieve with you over the loss of Mops. We have all lost a dear friend here as well, and I for one will think of him often and fondly.
God bless you and the other three bunnies. May He help heal you and return joy to your hearts in His loving way.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((Binky free Mops!)))))))))))))))))))))))) |
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| 08/31/2010 02:11 PM |
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I'm sorry Petzy, haven't been on in a few days! So sorry for your loss as well as the loss to the trio....binky free Mops! |
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| 08/31/2010 10:19 PM |
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Petzy - I know I sent you an email but I just wanted to also come here with the group and offer my condolences. Also thank you for sharing the video. I think it is helpful to see how the ones left behind may react. It was very similar to how my bunnies have reacted before to loss.
Binky Free Mops, and peace vibes and hugs to you Petzy! |
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| 09/07/2010 12:06 PM |
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Petzy, I am so sorry to hear about your poor Mops. I hesitate posting here because I don't feel I make myself known enough, but I want to express my sorrow for you. I hope you and your other buns are healing...although I know it can't be easy. Hugs to you...binky free Mops!
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 (dig)x(me)x(now)San Diego, Calif.
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| 09/27/2010 03:31 PM |
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Oh my goodness, I'm so sad to hear about Mops' passing. I'm always scared to check this section of the website when I haven't logged in in a while. I'm glad you decided not to euthanize so that his "siblings" could say goodbye. I hope everything is going well now.
Binky free, Mops! <3 <3 <3 |
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 HatterBunnyHuntington Beach
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| 09/29/2010 05:07 PM |
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Haven't been on in awhile, and hate checking this part of the forum...I am SO sorry to read of Mop's passing!! Hatter and I wish you nothing but our heart felt condolences... |
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| 10/02/2010 02:23 PM |
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I've been MIA for months yet again so I'm kind of late on this. I'm sorry to hear of Mops passing. I remember reading about Mops when you were working on bonding Lint. He was an awesome bun and even though he is gone he won't be forgotten! Sending you my late condolences.
Binky free Mops! |
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 cactuspancakeBoston, MA
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| 10/18/2010 06:32 PM |
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I'm very sorry I had no idea you lost your bunny. You've inspired me to try harder with grooming my angora as he doesn't like being handled too much. Hugs to you and your bunny. |
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