Erica 
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| 07/22/2010 10:25 PM |
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Today I went to the tractor supply store in search of woodstove pellets for Binky's litterbox, but they didn't have them. However, they said they have pine pellets, which they said, are the exact same thing. I heard that pine can cause liver problems in rabbits. If that is the case, are woodstove pellets, or pine pellets SAFE to use for my rabbit? Thank you in advance and sorry if this is in the wrong section. |
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Monkeybun
Hillsboro, Oregon
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| 07/22/2010 10:30 PM |
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If I remember right, pine pellets are fine as they have been kiln dried, which removes the toxic stuff from them. Its the shaved pine and blocks of pine that are bad. |
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Erica
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| 07/22/2010 10:54 PM |
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I do remember reading that somewhere, now that I think of it.... Thank you so much! |
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kralspace
West, Texas
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| 07/23/2010 06:42 AM |
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I did the same thing, Tractor Supply was out of the Lone Star bedding so I had to go to Brazos feed. (same price, just a few miles out of the way for me) There was an opened bag of those other pine pellets Tractor Supply had but they smelled really strong.
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Free2Dream
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| 07/23/2010 07:20 AM |
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Kiln-dried pine is fine for rabbits and most small animals.  We use Feline Pine for Oliver. |
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Andi
B.C. Canada
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| 07/23/2010 10:27 AM |
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Kiln drying takes away the oil that can cause health issues in animals, so 'most' pre-packaged pine beddings have gone through this process. Cedar is one you want to stay away from (even though is smells so good lol).
The Pine Pellets can be also called/used as Wood Stove pellets, as well. Some some city people who do not have access to a feed store can pick them up at some Home Improvement Stores. |
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RabbitPam
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Florida
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| 07/25/2010 06:00 AM |
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You want pine pellets that also say they have not added an excellerent. But a good cheap brand is called Feline Pine or Equine Pine (same brand, same stuff). I've seen Feline Pine sold in huge bags at Petstores and smaller ones in my local grocery store. Those are already prepared safely with wee bunnies in mind. |
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bunnnnnnie!
Illinois
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| 07/26/2010 01:09 PM |
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Posted By RabbitPam on 07/25/2010 06:00 AM
You want pine pellets that also say they have not added an excellerent.
But a good cheap brand is called Feline Pine or Equine Pine (same brand, same stuff). I've seen Feline Pine sold in huge bags at Petstores and smaller ones in my local grocery store. Those are already prepared safely with wee bunnies in mind.
Feline Pine is typically a LOT more expensive than the pine pellets marketed for horses. For example..
http://www.southernstates.com/catalog/p-1939-southern-states-premium-pellet-bedding-40lb.aspx
^ Horse pellet bedding, 40lbs for $5.99.
http://www.petco.com/product/4364/Feline-Pine-Cat-Litter.aspx?cm_mmc=CSEMGooglebase-_-Cat-_-Feline%20Pine-_-1134930&mr:trackingCode=1C7A1416-8381-DE11-B7F3-0019B9C043EB&mr:referralID=NA
^ Feline pine, 40lbs for $18.97 only if you buy it online. In stores it's $24.99. |
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Beka27
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| 07/26/2010 02:03 PM |
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^^^But... an excellent alternative for people who do not have access to Equine Pine/woodstove pellets for whatever reason. |
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bunnnnnnie!
Illinois
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| 07/26/2010 02:07 PM |
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Posted By Beka27 on 07/26/2010 02:03 PM
^^^But... an excellent alternative for people who do not have access to Equine Pine/woodstove pellets for whatever reason.
OP already stated there's a Tractor Supply that has the horse pine pellets. |
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Beka27
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| 07/26/2010 02:10 PM |
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Posted By Beka27 on 07/26/2010 02:03 PM
^^^But... an excellent alternative for people who do not have access to Equine Pine/woodstove pellets for whatever reason.
Not everyone who reads the forum posts in every thread, so it's important that we do try to offer alternatives where we can. Just because in this situation, WSP/HSB are readily available, it may be helpful to someone else to know that Feline Pine is also a suitable litter, especially if someone only has access to a petstore for supplies.
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BB
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| 07/26/2010 02:50 PM |
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Not everyone who reads the forum posts in every thread, so it's important that we do try to offer alternatives where we can. Just because in this situation, WSP/HSB are readily available, it may be helpful to someone else to know that Feline Pine is also a suitable litter, especially if someone only has access to a petstore for supplies.
Thank you Beka. That is a good point. I know that around here the pellets can be harder to find during certain times of the year, OR the place that has horse pellets is a much longer drive, so I'd have to pay a $5 toll, spend the gas $$ and sometimes the money and time spent things can equal out. It is good to have the options as we are all in such diverse places.
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RabbitPam
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Florida
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| 07/26/2010 03:12 PM |
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Exactly. It's helpful to throw out more information as we keep members reading in mind who might find the tip helpful. I remember when I went to first try pine, and discovered Publix, my very local grocery store, had a bag that wasn't heavy or expensive right there in the pets aisle. I was able to bring it home and try some without breaking my back or the bank. Nothing worse than that feeling you get when you've tried a new brand or ordered one (of anything) and Her/His Royal Highness rejects it outright. How many of you found your next search was for a rescue that takes donations? LOL
I ended up giving away my Feline Pine to a coworker with a new kitten when Sammy demonstrated her love of Aspen Pellets litter instead.
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MissKris&Koji
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| 07/26/2010 03:38 PM |
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I'm using aspen pellets right now and love em. Thinking of switching to the pine pellets for pets that Tractor Supply carries, though, "Cozy N Fresh". Anyone has tried this brand specifically? Tractor Supply is a ways away (I'm one of those people without one very conveniently nearby), and I don't mind the cost to find out the rabbit doesn't like it, but as it's far away I was thinking I'd load up on a few months worth while there - and I don't want to end up with 80 lbs of litter that bun may snub.
For city dwellers, home improvement stores should carry the stove pellets. I found a few near me who do, but the closest ones only carry in the fall/winter (the local Home Depot told me today they should be getting it back in stock this month). Other stores sort of nearby have it in stock even now, in the middle of summer, so that's definitely an option.
Also wanted to point out - for the Feline Pine, is both original and scoopable bunny safe? I would think scoopable formula maybe not, does anyone know for sure?
*edit* Never bought Feline Pine so I just looked, I knew there were 2 formulas, looks like scoopable has clumping, so definitely a no on that one for bunnies. In case anyone reads this thread and was looking into petstore options. |
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Sarita
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| 07/26/2010 03:53 PM |
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I live in Texas and none of the stores in my area carry woodstove pellets ever. I have to drive to Denton which is about 45 minutes away to stock up on Lone Star Bedding - usually buy 10 bags at a time so I don't have to go so often - hate the drive!
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BB
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San Francisco Area
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| 07/26/2010 03:56 PM |
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misskrisnyc --- aspen pellets (I use Aspen Supreme) are my favorite. They are bit pricey for me, but I can't give them up completely because they do such an outstanding job with odor. So I mix them with yesterday's news and that still keeps things under control.
I haven't heard of the "scoopable" kind of feline pine, (thanks for pointing that out!) but if it is finer and clumps, then it's a no go. |
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