Crazy summer! ( pix added)

[mocha200]

Wow it has been a crazy summer…. first our cat Emmett gets sick so we take him to the vet and he had limbs disease then our cat Edward ( his brother) gets attacked by the neighbors cat and has to go to the vet and get pain killers and he could barely walk before! then the same day Edward got attack our cat shadow didn’t come home…. after two days and two nights of calling him we thought the neighbors cat ether fought him and he lost or ran shadow off….. but he cam home on the third night! with no bite marks or any thing! and all of this stuff happened because we let them out side… i want to keep them in but my mom doesn’t want to and they LOVE it out there, so my mom is like ” why not give them the BEST years of there life instead of keeping them cooped up inside all of there life having a long boring life” i kind of have to agree with her. Then i get in trouble because my mom didn’t like the way my room looked she said it should look like a bedroom not a barn. so i had to put my bed frame back up and stuff, it is actually kind of nice! and now every time after i give them hay i sweep up the hay that falls on the floor. and it seems to work well!

 i have added a cooling down place in there condo on the third floor and they LOVE IT! i put ceramic tiles on the floor and then on the side by the wall i put ice blocks in a towel and a water dish! i have another water dish by there food dishes on the first floor but they keep on getting pellets and poo and litter and hay and i don’t no how to stop it! i want a food dish that goes on the wall so they won’t through there food dish in there water dish any more but they are always to high up! any ideas?

sorry i talk a lot.

thanks for reading!

mocha200

[Sarita]

You have had a crazy summer! I think your bedroom should look like a bedroom too.

[mrmac]

Your summer has been so eventful already Mocha! I am glad your cat came back! Just went off on an adventure! I bet Mocha and Lulu love the tiles!

[Deleted User]

what is the issue with the bowls — explain more please!

[KatnipCrzy]

I have strictly indoors only cats and they are happy, healthy cats.  Indoor cats live much longer than outdoor cats.  One of my cats is 13 a diabetic- but if he had lived indoors/outdoors he probably would not have made it to 13 yrs old.  So I do not feel guilty at all for procecting my cats from being hit by a car, attacked by other animals, poisoned or injured.  But it can be difficult to make the transition to out/indoor to indoor only- so you have to start them young.

[LittlePuffyTail]

Lots of kitty cat drama!!!

All of my cats are indoor cats as well. I would just worry too much, plus there is a lot of traffic here. When I lived at home we lived near the woods and let our cat Tiggy out whenever she wanted. She was quite the explorer and hunter. She had some close calls out there though, once she came home with part of her throat ripped open, the vet figures a weasel got her. I’ve heard that indoor cats live longer but I’m not sure if that applies to indoor/outdoor cats as well. Tiggy lived to be 21 years old so I think she disproved that!!!

[mocha200]

they are indoor/outdoor and 2 of our cats only stay by the deck when they go outside but most of the time they stay in. but i can not control them going outside and i have read that if they re outside cats and you move and they have to be indoor it is better for you to give the cat away to someone who can let them out…

Petzy: sorry i didn’t explain well. i would like for the water dish to be away from there food dishes so they don’t drop there food in it and put there food dishes in there so i would like for the bowels to be connected to the side of the cage but there is would in the way so when i connect my food dish to the wall ( the kind for small dogs i think) it is to high. so i don’t know what to do…. i will post pics soon to show you what i mean.

[mocha200]

this is there food dishes and water dish setup on the first floor.

 

 

 ( sorry for the poos lulu never uses her box to poo is there any way to fix that?)

 

this is the food dish that clips on the cage but it is about 3 inches tall.

 

 

this is the bord it is about 2 inches tall so food dish+wood= 5 inches thatss kina tall for them…

[Deleted User]

NIC grid. What you need to do it attch a grid, or some other rack, in front of the actual cage wall by wiring the grid onto the wire part of the cage wall. Then you can attach the bowls where you’d like on the grid.

Lulu might be on the poo war path… give it time, be patient, it can last a while. Diligently clean the stray droppings though.

[mocha200]

i am sorry i am not quite sure what you mean

 

do you mean flat against it like this?

because i nead room to screw it on.

[Deleted User]

mocha, we need video chat

You won’t be able to use that screw-in bowl. I have the same one and it won’t work for many set-ups because of the space it needs front and back.

Use these bowls only you have

My suggestion would be to use these two blue bowls both for water, and scatter their pellets on the floor of their habitat or on a flat plate. They don’t need a bowl of pellets sitting there really.

[mocha200]

what about for there veggies? i normally feed the veggies during playtime so they eat some then go run off and binky then eat more but if i can’t let them out while they eat should i just put it on a plate. should i add a bigger litter box were the litter box is cuz lulu keeps pooing all around it?!

mocha, we need video chat

yes we do

[Deleted User]

I just put veggies on the floor for mine or sometimes I use a sheet of a flyer or newspaper. A plate is fine too but not necessary.

[mocha200]

ok i just thought maybe they wouldn’t sit on a plate, but i guess its ok… what about the litter box?

[Deleted User]

Rabbits like to eat off the ground as long as you keep their environment clean.
Oh, sorry about the litterbox question, I forgot to answer. How big is the box?

[mocha200]

ummm let me go see….

[mocha200]

 

this is there box… i think its about 8/12 inches but i was mesureing with a nic cube and i am not sure if the holes are 1 inch or 1.5 inches.

[Deleted User]

if it fits both bunnies it is big enough, but you might want to add a second smaller one. If it is smallish you’d want to get a second one that is larger. This may hep you to figure out what Lulu likes.

[mocha200]

they have another one that is the about the same size on the 2 level. the one in the picture could maybe fit both of them but mocha seems to fill up most of it… i have never seen them in that one together only my other one.

 

i went in my room a little bit ago and found them like this! when i showed my mom she said ” and you thought they would never bond. ” hehe

 

[Deleted User]

try a second box with low sides. The high-sided ones can cause some bunnies to fling poop around or to not go in the box reliably.

Yes, they are such a nice bond too!!! A pair of bunnies is the sweetest thing.

[mocha200]

they pee over the edge with lower side ones, and i would rather not clean bee up all the time.

[Deleted User]

haha, so you rather clean up poo?? –you need to go shopping then: get a proper high-sided box with entrance, or cut out an entrance in the one you have!

 

[mocha200]

well the one i am using isn’t a litter box so it is more tough plastic so i can’t cut through it. i was actually looking at a cat box i saw at shopko its called Breeze i think, it has a pad under neath it in a drawer and all the pee goes in there but i think you need special litter. i might have somthing that might work.. ( you have a lot of litter boxes when you got 5 cats )

 

i forgot we took some to our new house so this is all i have

 

[mrmac]

I have that same green box, they hated it. It does only fit a half a bunny!

[Monkeybun]

Don’t buy the fancy box, stick to the cheap ones.

I’d go with the larger container for them, I know with my bunnies they enjoy having more room int ehir box. And you can always tuck a small one elsewhere in their condo if they don’t want to share

[mocha200]

ok…. uhhh…. now i have to clean it. LOL

[Deleted User]

a half a bunny??LOL, mrmac, that’s useless!!!
mocha, you have to make yourself enjoy cleaning… j/k

[mocha200]

it actually does not take long at all, i am just lazy…. i am up at our second house right now and i left the buns home with my dad and sister because we don’t have a spot for them yet. the deal is we are going to be up here pretty much 24/7 in August and i don’t want them to be alone all month so they need to be able to come up here. but as you know they have to stay out side during the day even if it is to hot out.but last night i actually got cold in the night so it is not that hot at night, but during the day it could get to 85 F or higher. but it wouldn’t really make a difference if they were in the house because it doesn’t have air conditioning. so i need some help. leave them home the whole month or bring them up.

[Deleted User]

where would they be housed outside, in what type of setup? I am leaning toward leaving them at home because of outdoor dangers you may not know yet.

[mocha200]

not sure about the setup i thought you guys could help me on that. they would be in the shade.

[Deleted User]

Find out if the area has myxomatosis (ask a vet or wildlife center). If yes, leave your bunnies at home. If not, you will still need to have a setup that is predator-proof. Most fencing can be climbed, squeezed under or chewed through by carnivores. In my area these are very real threats, so I am mentioning it.
A predator-proof set-up must include a hutch that protects from rain as well as small critters at night. During the day, when you can supervise, they may run in a pen. Do not leave them free in a pen at night. I recall you have a hutch, do you? You may have to modify it to be safe.

[mocha200]

no no they will not be out at night. and i am hoping in rain they can come in but i am not sure. my grandpa has lots of wood and stuff and is good at making stuff so maybe he can help me build something. i asked my mom and she said i could not leave them at home. she said we can’t expect some one to take care of them for a month. and to ell you the truth i don’t think i could leave them that long. so i think we will make the walls out of wire cuz we don’t have any other thing for walls… any ideas on to make it more safe?

[Deleted User]

Are you talking about an outdoor daytime pen for them now? Is this what you are wanting to build? Will they be outside by themselves? Where will they spend the nights?

[mocha200]

i want a play pen safe like yours but it will have a little hutch or wood building or something like that. they will be by them self most of the day because i can’t possibly watch them all day for a month! but every chance i get i will watch them or check on them. they will be in the house or camper at night were ever they are i will sleep in the same room.

[Deleted User]

Mocha, my pen took a lot of materials to make, and work; I don’t know if it would be worth the trouble to make one for just a month. Unless, you are going to be staying at that house often. You will need to start collecting materials, do you have any money to spend on this? If they will be alone you cannot use open fencing, it is too risky, any critter could climb it, plus they would be visible to animals and it will attract some carnivore sooner or later. If you have no walls, you could tie tarps tightly to the fence to make them into walls but tarps cost money too… I am trying to think what else you could use; you will need your granddad’s help. My suggestion is to make it not too large so your material will be less… definitely you will need a wooden shelter for them, too, I am building one right now for mine too, as I had cages in my outside playpen but we are getting so much rain this year that I want a real hide-out for mine. I also had trouble with digging out and lined my pen floor with poultry mesh. It is cheap but you will need it! Trust me, all bunnies sooner or later start tunneling. So already you need a wooden hide-out, tarps, fencing and the mesh to line the ground… this does not include a roof yet. Unless you will be using this pen often in the future, it won’t be worth the trouble. Why can’t your bunnies be inside at that house?

[mocha200]

i found out my mom will let them stay in the house if it is to hot or if it is raining or something. YES this house is going to be our home a few years so we will use it a lot! right now it is a trailer house, cuz we haven’t built the house yet, and we will have have 3 cats ( or more) in it and so there isn’t much room for them so they can only have a little cage in the corner of my room and they wouldn’t have any space to run around so if it is nice weather why not let them out? the cage will be in a shaded area right by the house. ( and some one is building a house next door so there is tons of people around) so we don’t have to worry about big animals but we will have to worry about the small ones. my grandpa has tons of wood and stuff like that so i am going to ask for some old wood he doesn’t want and i have a tarp for the bunny’s and my dad has old tarps to. but what about the roof if i make walls and a roof it will be dark in there. what should i do?

[mocha200]

i forgot to add i have only like 20 dollars.

[Lintini]

*swoons* what a cute pair you have Mocha!!

[Deleted User]

You can use mesh stapled to a wooden frame as a top. Ask your grandad about it. It is hard for me to suggest anything here because I am not familiar with your area. I have all the main predator species where I am and so my pen is maximum-security and still I am always working on it to improve it. I also get very much rain and sometimes bugs are a problem… these are all factors to consider in an outdoor pen.
Talk to your grandfather, your parents, too, and and see if they are willing to build a safe enclosure so your rabbits can get their exercise there. Twenty dollars won’t go far unfortunately when it comes to materials.

[Sarita]

Mocha, I don’t think that is a very good idea to put them outside. I’m concerned that there are alot of people around all the time and all that construction. You aren’t able to build a safe enclosure yourself either. It’s not just putting a bunch of old wood together and a tarp isn’t going to make a rabbit safe enclosure.

[mocha200]

Sarita: i don’t really have much of a choice if i could i wouldn’t put them out side.

[Deleted User]

Then design their setup with these things in mind: hide them from birds’ view, provide shade, provide rain shelter, block predator access and prevent tunneling out. These are the four most important criteria in building an outdoor enclosure for rabbits.

[mocha200]

me and my dad just built a shelter! we haven’t brought the fence up yet though so we can’t start on the other stuff.

[Deleted User]

I forgot to mention bugs: you need to shelter them from bugs, too, some rabbits are very sensitive to mosquitoes and flies can also be a threat to their health. I use flea prevention on mine (Revolution) because fleas can hide in grass.

Bug screen is very pricy: I suggest screening the shelter part so you have the option of confining them in there if bugs are abundant some days.

[mocha200]

my mom said i probably wont have them out in the mornings so they aren’t going to be outside for very long just about from 1-6. do i get that medicine from my bunnys vet or can i get it from any vet?

[Deleted User]

I suppose you need to get it from your rabbit vet because most vets only sell it to their regular animal patients, at least in Canada they do.
Not all yards have fleas, though. Again, Mocha, I am just cautioning you with all these considerations, it really depends on the outdoor spot you use which factors need to be protected from. ~

[mocha200]

yes i know you are just trying to make sure they are safe… the vet i am thinking of getting it from if i get it would be the vet our cats go to, its just the rabbits vet is a 45 min. drive instead of 15. i have some pics of the before and after pics of the shelter we made.. ( it was an old dog house)

[mocha200]

ahhh the photos aren’t loading i will have to wait till i get home to load them. ( i get to see my honey buns again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[shlbysmom]

they make bowls that go on the sides for bunnys thats alot smaller n fit better

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