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Last Post by bunnymum16 at 08/11/2010 12:01 PM (69 Replies)
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User is Offline Elrohwen
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07/16/2010 06:03 AM
I have read about peanuts that live for a few months, but they do eventually pass on :-( I hope he's just a runt and not a peanut!

Let us know what the vet says. I really hope whatever he has is treatable.
- Elrohwen

User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/26/2010 11:49 PM
i took her to the vet earlier cuz she's having poopy butt for the past 3 days.they had to keep her.the vet said it might be an inflammation inside her that causes the pot belly.vet's gonna do another fecal float too and if there's worms in her,she's gonna be dewormed.im gonna pick her up tomorrow.

User is Offline Sarita
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07/27/2010 05:30 AM
Please keep us updated. Vibes to Micro Bunny.

User is Offline Beka27
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07/27/2010 05:39 AM
I'm glad the vet is checking on her again. I'm so curious about this little bunny, what an odd situation...

(((Vibes!)))

Does she have a name yet?
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User is Offline Karla
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07/27/2010 05:40 AM
Couldn't he be a dwarf? I met someone who had a dwarf dog - the breed was tiny in itself, but their dog never got big and always looked like a puppy, so they took it to the vet, who told them it was a dwarf.

I hope Micro Bunny feels better after the treatment!

User is Offline Beka27
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07/27/2010 05:42 AM
^^^Interesting thought! So not just, this is my "dwarf rabbit", but... my "dwarf rabbit" is a dwarf, making him/her even smaller...


(Maybe that's Monkey's situation? Lol...)
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User is Offline mocha200
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07/27/2010 10:41 AM
oh poor baby bunny!
((((((((((((((healing vibes))))))))))))))))))))
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User is Offline Monkeybun
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07/27/2010 10:49 AM
Monkey was the runt of her litter, her siblings were all twice her size

Vibes for Micro-Bunny!

User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/27/2010 11:43 AM
we named her Chance.were thinking of changing it to Micro.oh and he's a she-vet confirmed.

User is Offline Free2Dream
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07/27/2010 04:12 PM
Poor little thing... he is VERY tiny! Be sure to let us know what the vet says. I'll be thinking of the little guy. <3

What is it with people trying to feed rabbits bread and milk?

User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/27/2010 04:16 PM
i called the vet and he did confirm that she has coccidia.im gonna be picking her up after work.vet said he's gonna prescribe some medications.not sure yet what it is.i will let you guys know as soon i find out.thanks for all the healing vibes.

User is Offline mocha200
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07/27/2010 04:24 PM
i am glade you found out what was wrong! ( not glade that she/he is sick though ) hopefully she/he will feel better soon!!!!!
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User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/27/2010 10:09 PM
i got her from the vet already.vet gave me sulfamethoxazole/trimeth. which i should give orally 2x a day for 14 days.hopefully she'll be fine.

one more thing,is the coccidia transferrable to humans?

User is Offline Lintini
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07/28/2010 12:11 AM
I am so glad that Chance will be alright!

I read that certain types are only passed from dog/cats and some are transferred to humans; (Toxoplasma and Cryptosporidium). I am sure your vet would have told you if she had the type that can spread to humans because then the vets office would have been at risk?

Which reminds me...did anyone else catch that episode on Animal Planet about Cryptosporidium? It was a few months ago but I guess some people were getting it from contaminated water and they died from it. I think they were in countries without water systems. I didn't even realize that it was something that could be in a rabbit.
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User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/28/2010 12:34 AM
Lintini if my boyfriend finds out about that Cryptosporidium,he's gonna go nuts with diainfecting himself and everything else.he's really freaked out with parasites and stuff like that.LOL.

i want to watch that too.maybe there's a link somewhere in the internet

User is Offline lashkay
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07/28/2010 05:02 AM
Bunnymum, I came across this info about sulfa which May be what your vet prescribed or related to it. I'm sure your vet knows what's best for your bunny and is using the sulfa medication with great care, but I think you might want to bring this to his or her attention and confirm it with them. The info is from a breeder I find reputable, sincere and loving of bunnies who referred me to the equally reputable and caring breeder who I got my Dustor from. This is from Barbibrownsbunnies.com, way down on the list under Medicine Chest:

Sulfaquinoxaline, Sulmet or Corid powder is used to treat coccidiosis by many breeders but should be used with great care as there can be many side effects from using sulfa.

Best wishes! - Lashkay


User is Offline Sarita
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07/28/2010 05:08 AM
Your vet most likely is prescribing Albon supsension. This is sulfadimethoxine - it's commonly used and it's perfectly safe.

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07/28/2010 09:54 AM
the label says SMX/Trimethon.and its a pink liquid.i tried looking it up and i found out that its Bactrim.im not sure though.is that safe?does it have any side effects?

User is Offline Sarita
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07/28/2010 09:57 AM
Bactrim is perfectly safe - I've used it frequently for my rabbits. Is this what he gave you for her coccidia?

User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/28/2010 10:23 AM
yeah thats what the vet gave me.i asked if i should give some to my other bunny too just to make sure he didnt get any.he said it wouldnt hurt him if i did.the only contact they had was when i first brought her home.they sniffed each other through the wires.

User is Offline lashkay
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07/28/2010 11:17 AM
Thanks, Sarita, for your feedback, I'm glad it's safe. Bunnymum, that's great that your little one is on the road to recovery. Yay! Healing vibes, Lashkay

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07/28/2010 05:22 PM
I don't know if you know this already, but t's important that you disinfect the bunny's cage with a 10% ammonia solution so the oocysts will be killed and can't reinfect your bunny: I found this under coccidiosis in the Merck Veterinary Manual: http://www.merckvetmanual.com or http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/171332.htm

Treatment will not be successful unless a sanitation program is instituted simultaneously. Elimination of fecal-oral transmission of infective oocysts is achieved by preventing feed hoppers and water crocks from becoming contaminated with feces. Hutches should be kept dry and the accumulated feces removed frequently. Wire cage bottoms should be brushed daily with a wire brush to help break the life cycle of the protozoa. Ammonia (10%) solution is lethal to oocysts and is the best choice to disinfect cages or ancillary equipment exposed to fecal material

Healing vibes to your bunny - Lashkay

User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/28/2010 11:50 PM
this is her 2nd day of Bactrim medication.she put up a fight this time unlike yesterday so i had to do a bunny burrito and force her to take her meds.she's doing better.her tummy is still bloated.im hoping that will go away.her tummy's way too big compared to her teeny weeny head and paws.

the vet did a good job with her because when i got her,she was so clean and her fur was so shiny.they took care of her thats for sure.

User is Offline RabbitPam
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07/29/2010 03:55 AM
It sounds like Micro-Bunny is in the best possible hands, between you and the vet. If she pulls through this episode and heals, she will probably live a lovely long life with you. Possibly a feisty one like Monkey.
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07/29/2010 04:12 AM
Posted By lashkay on 07/28/2010 06:22 PM
I don't know if you know this already, but t's important that you disinfect the bunny's cage with a 10% ammonia solution so the oocysts will be killed and can't reinfect your bunny: I found this under coccidiosis in the Merck Veterinary Manual: http://www.merckvetmanual.com or http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/171332.htm

Treatment will not be successful unless a sanitation program is instituted simultaneously. Elimination of fecal-oral transmission of infective oocysts is achieved by preventing feed hoppers and water crocks from becoming contaminated with feces. Hutches should be kept dry and the accumulated feces removed frequently. Wire cage bottoms should be brushed daily with a wire brush to help break the life cycle of the protozoa. Ammonia (10%) solution is lethal to oocysts and is the best choice to disinfect cages or ancillary equipment exposed to fecal material

Healing vibes to your bunny - Lashkay

Bunnymum16, we seem to have 2 similar posts going for you, so I copied Sarita's advice regarding the cage cleaning. I think it's helpful since you have so much on your plate with Micro Bunny that you know you can safely keep it clean simply and easily. Lashkay, thank you for the information above. I trust Sarita's experience here and wanted to share both your suggestions with Bunnymum so she can have all her options available.

Sarita said:
I think as long as you change the litterbox often and clean with vinegar and water you will be fine. I've treated rabbits with coccidia before and just kept their areas cleaned and medicated them and it cured them.

I agree with your boyfriend on this...keep it clean, change the litter often, medicate. It's always worked for me and I've never gone to extreme measures like the ammonia or disinfecting.

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User is Offline Sarita
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07/29/2010 05:26 AM
Thanks RabbitPam.

Many of these websites that recommend this huge disinfecting are more for a rabbitry or shelter type situation. In a clean, stress free home environment you really don't need this. Micro bunny is isolated, you clean her area and change the litter box daily (at least change the litter box daily for the first couple of days of treatment) then this should keep it under control. A good home environment is vastly different from the shelter or rabbitry. We don't keep our rabbits on wire cages either which I think harbor alot of bacteria because they aren't easy to clean. Also the stress level and cleanliness level of a home environment are far better than the other situations.

User is Offline KatnipCrzy
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07/29/2010 12:30 PM

Some of the information that you find online can be not as relevant to treating house bunnies as what is ideal.   Some of the drugs that can be used to treat rabbit coccidia- and that are used in large rabbitries- are actually large animals (cattle, etc) medications.  And that is why you can worry about overdosing, side effects, etc- when you are using medicine developed for a 1000+ animal on a small, maybe a couple of pounds rabbit.

But following the recommendations by your vet and the prescribed meds is ideal for a pet bunny.  Just make sure (as others have mentioned) to keep the area cleaned daily to prevent recontamination (the bunny reinfesting itself) from poos and be sure to check a fecal AFTER treatment at the interval when the meds are done that your vet recommends.  You want to do this to make SURE that it is completely cleared up.

Griffin had coccidia when I got him- I treated him with the meds- and then had a fecal retest a few weeks later as negative.  Griffin was kept away from the other bunnies at first as a general precaution anyway- and I fed, handled the other bunnies first and THEN Griffin.  I am sure that Griffin was eating his cecals- but he was not reinfected with coccidia as the spores are rarely in the cecals.  So it was actually quite easy to treat and just took general, mild extra precautions when having other bunnies in the house and to prevent reinfestaion.

Having coccidia diagnosed before the bunny has runny, bloody diarrhea can make all the difference between life and death- that is why I recommend anyone with any bunny, young/adult/etc- have a fecal test done ASAP- especially if you have other bunnies in the house.  It is easier and cheaper to treat one bunny than to treat 2,3, etc......

Many of the websites from breeders may mention using large animal products that are added to the water- but this often only CONTROLS the parasite and does not treat it.  Controls means keeping the parasite to a manageeable level- often not ever eliminiating the parasite completely.  TREATING means giving a course of medication to eliminate the parasite.   Bunnies in rabbitries probably do quite weill with a schedule of treatment that keep the parasite under control- but what happens when the bunnies are then going to a pet store or a private home and not receiving their medication to "control" the parasite load?  The parasite can multiply and make the bunny ill.

Coccidia is a common parasite- but it is possible to eliminate the parasite completely.  Especially with house bunnies that are getting individual care and treatment.

 

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User is Offline foxtailskies
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07/29/2010 12:49 PM
Re: Merck manual... the most recent edition of the Merck is still a few years old and is generally not hip to the "house rabbit" vibe yet Therefore, a lot of its rabbit advice, while still medically sound, is geared toward labs and production units and not house pets. So, ammonia to kill coccidia is probably great but may be overkill, as other people here have noted
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User is Offline bunnymum16
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07/29/2010 04:23 PM
thanks you guys.now i can finally relax from all this sanitizing and disinfecting ive been doing.its good to hear that all i have to do is keep her area clean.i just dont want her to be reinfected plus im trying to keep my other bunny healthy too.

i actually barely finished cleaning her cage and giving her a butt bath because she pooped all over.i hope all this ends soon.i want to see her healthy.

KatnipCrzy,did you ever bond Griffin with your other bunnies??im thinking of not ever bonding my 2 bunnies because of the risk of infection but at the same time,i dont wanna have to handle them separately forever.

User is Offline bunnnnnnie!
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07/29/2010 04:47 PM

Can I just say I'm so glad this bun has you?  You're doing a great job being so proactive about this.  Sending good vibes that microbunbun is in the fast lane to recovery!  

Proud owner of King Zeus, the gentle giant French Lop!

In Loving Memory, sweet bunny West. ~2009-2012.

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