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    • Bougatsa
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        Guys I have done a lot of thinking and I am under the impression that my bunny cannot have from me everything she really needs. She wont have a permanent house for the next 4 years probably and she is very nervous whenever I move her. She doesnt have the possibility to fully relax and live happily. Plus I dont have the money to take responsible care of her. I know that if something happens to her I wont have the money to pay a vet (I read the other thread of the cost of vets). And the spay, it troubles me so much and I cannot handle it, my nerves are too fragile and I struggle with the money. In addition to these, it is very difficult whenever I have to leave cause my parents arent big fans of animals and really dont like to take care of her… In 2 years I am going away for 4 months and I have no idea what I am going to do then. It was irresponsible of me to take a bunny at this point, I mean being a college student. I am lately thinking that, for her own good, I might have to find another home for her. But I love her so much and it is difficult to do that….oh god  I feel so so bad and guilty right now. I just want to be responsible and do what is really best for her… I dont know if I will be able to do such thing as giving her away as I am going to miss her terribly, but I really dont know what else to do. All this time I was feeling okay about her but all of a sudden it stroke me that I cant take care of her the way I should. She is my first pet ever and I think that I might not be ready for that…

        I hope you wont criticize me about these thoughts I am having. You are all very responsible people and I admire how well you take care of your pets.What do you think is best to do for my girl?


      • Minty
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          You say that you are going away in 2 years… That is a long time from now… Your circumstances could change by then. How are you paying for her expenses right now? I think you should think about it more and not give up on her so easily. 4 months doesn’t seem like that long, maybe you could find a friend to care for her for you. I am also a student and know that I will probably be moving around in the future, but I’m not going to give up my bunnies. It can be hard to find the extra money, but maybe you could start up an emergency fund now, and put aside some money every month just in case. I think when you brought your little girl home that you made a commitment to care for her for the rest of her life! I’m not judging you and I know how overwhelming it can be, but try to hang in there for the sake of your bun. Sit down and make a plan of your possible options. You said that you cannot provide her with everything she needs… What does this mean exactly? Attention? Food? If you specify we may be able to be of more help and give you some tips. I really hope you think about it a bit more. You have lots of time!


        • Bougatsa
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            I am going away probably in the winter of 2011..less than 2 years.
            Up till now I am cutting of some money from what my parents give me every week. It is not so hard for me to pay for food and litter as it costs about 20 euros a month. But there are other expences, meaning the vet…clipping nails, possible emergencies that might occur, and the spay which I believe is essential for many reasons.. I would like to have a job next year but I dont know if it will be possible cause I will be up to many things next year and I dont know if I will have the time. Also I want to save up some money forr when I will go abroad (these 4 months I said) and it is very difficult cause I spend all my money on my bunny and cant save up…
            And it’s my parents who complain when I have to make them come to carry the cage back…or to take care of her when I leave. I feel like I am chaning their lives too… If I would have their support I would be so much calmer and it would be easier on me. No matter how much I want to take good care of her they always judge me for having a pet and make me feel bad.
            Sometimes it’s to much for me to handle cause whenever I make important changes in my life I get very nervous… it was okay when I got her but now I see how difficult it can be to be responsible for an animal. I DONT WANT her to be away from me and I am going to think a lot about it and see if I can handle it…


          • Karla
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              Bougatsa, it can be so overwhelming to get a pet and all the responsibilities that come with it. It is completely okay to be overwhelmed and feel like you do.

              I was about 22 one when I got my cat, and I was so uncomfortable with the responsibility of a pet and couldn’t sleep at night. It wasn’t until my parents said that they would always help me with the bills (food, vet et.c) and that if I felt I couldn’t take properly care of him, they would adopt him. That helped! And I could finally just enjoy his company.

              Your parents doesn’t sound so supportive of you having Phoebe, which of course makes it difficult for you. If you keep feeling that it is too hard for you to have Phoebe, then of course, you should not keep her. It’s supposed to be a joy to have pets, and sometimes we are just not in that stage of our life that it is possible. But honestly, Bougatsa, you sound like such a caring person and you are so devoted to her well-being that I have no doubt in my mind that Phoebe is living exactly where she should.

              Before you start worrying about vet bills, let me just assure you that neither Karl nor Molly have ever seen a vet. Well, only to keep my late Jack company, but that’s it. They have never been ill (I wouldn’t be fair though if I didn’t tell you that Jack has cost me approximately €200 a month while he lived). Perhaps you could put just €20 aside each month to save up for any bills that might come along? Is that possible for you?

              Also, I agree with Minty – we might be able to help you with some tips on how to save money on daily things for bunnies.

              Where are you going to study in 2 years time? Are you sure you cannot bring Phoebe with you?

              I don’t mean to be too personal, but are you going through other stressful things in your life right now? Because then all of a sudden, it can all just get too much. And even small things come to be big overwhelming problems.

               


            • Karla
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                Posted By Bougatsa on 06/21/2010 12:30 AM
                I am going away probably in the winter of 2011..less than 2 years.
                Up till now I am cutting of some money from what my parents give me every week. It is not so hard for me to pay for food and litter as it costs about 20 euros a month. But there are other expences, meaning the vet…clipping nails, possible emergencies that might occur, and the spay which I believe is essential for many reasons..

                First of all, you don’t need to get her spayed ASAP, although for your own mental health, it might be a good idea to get it over with, so you don’t have to worry about it. However, I just want to point out, that you can easily clip her nails yourself – if you just have someone to hold her.

                Does she have white or black nails? Whites are very, very easy. I actually find that the dark nails are not so difficult either, if you just have the bunny near a window, so you can see the light through the nail. I used to hate the nail clipping sessions. It was a living hell for my boyfriend and I until one day he refused to cut the nails, because he felt it was so nerve-wrecking. To show him how big a jerk he was, I told him I would do the clipping then. And you know what – it was piece of cake! Now we clip them every 3 weeks, and it is so easy and no big fuss.

                If you want, you can create a nail clip thread and you can get some tips. Perhaps your parents are okay with holding Phoebe for 2 minutes? They may just fall in love with her when she sits there so still and cute on their lap  My boyfriend don’t spend a lot of time on the bunnies anymore, but whenever we do the nail clipping and they are on his lap, he is completely besotted by them and goes “oh, I had forgotten how cute they are” in baby voices and for the next few days, he actually spends time with them. So I’m sure you parents might just end up like that as well

                 


              • Monkeybun
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                  We’re all here to help, so don’t cry just yet Lots of people here have money saving tips for caring for bunnies, and even 5 or 10 dollars, or euros or whatever you silly people over there use, put away whenever you can will help towards having a nice vet fund set up. Nail trims can be scary too, but with practice, you won’t need to take her anywhere to get them done, you’ll be able to do them yourself. And like Karla said, maybe asking for a parent to hold her for just a minute will get them bonding to her too


                • Bougatsa
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                    Oh thank you so much for the things you are telling me!!
                    I dont know it just hit me that I cant handle it…it was many things that cause this worry to me 2 days before…first of all I want to clip her nails and couldnt and then I realised I might never will and have to go to the vet every month and it is hard to do that in the city cause vets are very expensive and far away and I dont have a car. She never stays still when I hold her and she wont go into trance, even the vet failed to do that. And then I thought that if we try to do it ourselves (by maybe convincing a member of my family do it) she will start to be afraid of me and we will never bond like I want to. And after the nail cliping worry I have that girl who told me about the spay and stuff (if you read the thread “my decision” you will see what I mean)… Then I started thinking that now that we are going back my parents she will poop and pee and my mother will start saying “time to give her away” and when I’ll leave on vacation she wont let her out of the cage for the days I will be gone and she will get all lonely. And that fact made me think that it will always be a worrying issue for me to go leave, I mean I am a college student and sometimes I want to do things with my friends, maybe have a trip sometime. Plus my parents think that there is no point in having a pet and especially a bunny and make fun of me whenever I talk about my bunny and they would just love it if I gave her away….which I dont really want to do. And yesterday I randomly started to look into vets in general and I realized that there are very few who know about bunnies and then I remembered all the vets I have talked to since now and I hate these people so much as every one of them was rude to me. The issue of money will always be there and the spay money are so much for me, it’s like half of my rent.
                    I am going to Spain and I dont want her to have to be on a plane and then I might have roomates and it will be a trouble to have her in an apartment with other people.

                    I dont know Karla I seem to be very sensitive lately, I mean I cry with every little thing and it’s getting on my nerves…I do have some other personal problems (friends, love life etc) and yes I think it got too much lately. Generally I am a nervous person and I get anxious very easily.
                    I am definetely keeping her over the summer and see how it goes with my parents… it will be kind of a challenge.


                  • Monkeybun
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                      She won’t be afraid of you and hate you if you trim her nails. She might be cranky for a little bit afterwards, but they always come bouncing back for loves. You can try the method of holding her in your lap, her back up against your tummy, back feet on your legs, your hand under her front paws to trim them. Works for a few of the bunny people I know here.

                      That is one thing that has always annoyed me.. parents making fun of their kids for stuff, and wanting them to get rid of something they love. Its not nice. Hopefully over the summer they will start to understand why you love your little bun, and maybe they will at least learn to accept it. Or, maybe you’ll find a great friend to take care of her for you while you’re gone.


                    • Karla
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                        I use the same bunny position as MB suggests. It is so easy. And I give lots of treats afterwards, so they still love me But even Karl, who is really skittish doesn’t mind. So don’t worry about her being afraid of you afterwards ’cause she will soon forget about it. And once she gets used to it, there is no problem.

                        The first time you cut her nails don’t cut a lot. Just do it to get comfortable with the nail clipping. What colour are her nails? And do you have the hang of it where to cut et.c?

                        It sounds like you are going through a hard period these days. Please don’t let Phoebe be one of your concerns as well. Give it time and seek comfort in her company instead. I know it is easy to say, but honestly, you shouldn’t worry. I know you are a caring bunny mum, and you don’t have to spay her for the next year or so, so you could save up money in your own time.

                        And give your parents the benefit of the doubt. Once you and Phoebe move in with them this summer, they will see how cute she is. At least I hope so. Could you tell them that it hurts you? I honestly don’t think they mean to be un-supportive, but they just don’t think about it as such.

                        And by the way, don’t try to trance her. There is no point in doing it and you could accidently damage her. MB’s suggestion is so much better. And if it is for petting, you want to trance her, then don’t. Just sit next to her and give her raisins or dried fruit and pet her. That is a great way to bond with her.


                      • Bougatsa
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                          Her white leg has white nails (easy to see the quick), the black leg has grey nails and the two brown legs are very dark and I cannot see the quick. I believe I know where to cut and at the beggining I will clip only the tips just to be sure. I just made a fuss about it and it probably is easier that I thought.

                          Yesterday when i was all down and sad I did try to find some comfort near her but whenever I tried to pet her she would leave, she didnt come to me once and she totally ignored me as usual and that made me feel even worse i thought that she didnt like me and I was like “why keep her, she is probably afraid of me all the time” and that added more to the problem. It felt like I have her only to give her food and to get me really nervous…She is not close to me the last 2 months and it is depressing me. Some times she will follow me or bump her nose on my leg but she does that very rarely…she does let me pet her but she is nothing like she used to be. i read on here of how bonded people are with their bunnies and how they interact with each other and cuddle and stuff and we are nothing like that. I feel like since now I have only got the downs of having a pet and the moments we are enjoying ourselves are rare.

                          And about the spay, people here said that if I delay it then probably she will be used to having bad litterbox habits for ever. Also that being hormonal gets her depressed and stuff…that’s why I wanted to do it as soon as possible. but turns out I cant..

                          I really wish my parents will understand how I feel about my pet and help me a bit but isnt very likely to happen. In easter my dad didnt even went to my room once to see her cause he wasnt interested and my mum..well she did like her a bit and petted her sometimes but now I am sure she will hate her because of the litter habits. She neurotic about cleaning and there is no way that she will agree to spend time with her…she will even yell at me if she see her pee even thought I will clean it up.


                        • Karla
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                            There are great bonding tips in some of the threads in here. I think we have all been where you are now – it takes time to bond with bunnies.

                            I did kind of regret getting Karl as well as he turned out to be so shy – and not a cuddly bunny as I remembered my childhood bunnies to be. But I spent tons of time handfeeding him his pellets, and as soon as I came home from work I would just lie on the floor with him letting him hop on my back et.c. Honestly? It took about 6 months before Karl would get into my lap and sit there – without me bribing him. A lot of times now when I sit next to him to cuddle, he just goes away, but often he sits still and enjoys it. Admittedly, if I did not have Molly or Freddy, I would be very, very disappointed as well, but he does more become more and more interested in cuddles every day.

                            Do you kiss her on the forehead? I have found that my bunnies love that much more than just caressing them with my finger. I guess those wet kisses feel like a bunny tongue

                            So what I’m saying is: give it time. She is still a young girl – and everything is so much more fun than to just sit next to you and be petted. There are tons of things she needs to explore, chew and sniff. She just doesn’t have the time for that kind of booooring stuff, but that does not mean that she does not love you.

                            But my best advice is now: handfeed her! Give her all her veggies and her pellets one by one from your hand. Move her closer and closer to you and eventually she will have to get into your lap to get her food. That way she gets used to sitting still on your lap.

                            And Bougatsa, there is a whole world of difference between being unable to spay a bunny and then not bothering or wanting to spend the money. Don’t feel bad. You are still doing tons of good stuff for her. Had she ended up with someone else, she probably wouldn’t have that much run time, her owner wouldn’t know anything about neuters and proper rabbit care, and on and on. You are doing her a great favour just by having her!

                            It sounds like you mum might open more up to Phoebe. Just be one foot ahead of her with the cleaning, so she won’t be able to blame Phoebe and you for that. And stock up on vinegar big time!


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                              Hugs Bougatsa!

                              I am sorry you’re feeling upset, and I apologize if my earlier response to you sounded insensitive, b/c that was not my intent at all. We are all here to help you. Your bunny knows how much you love her, and we all recognize that bunnies may not get the ideal care and attention at all times, but it’s so important that you keep trying and you do the very best with what you have. I agree with Karla’s thoughts. It sounds like in your area, not many people are educated about rabbits, so I think it would be much better that she stay with you then risk going to someone else who knows even less or may even treat her badly!!!


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                                Hi Bougatsa!

                                it amazes me how people around us can make a simple joy turn sour for us (in your case your parents). You should just be happy that you have such a lovely little pet. It happens to every pet owner at some point or another — the thought of not doing a good enough job. In spite of everything, Phoebe is best off with you — simply because you care about her. Your situation as far as the vet and finances are concerned could improve and I doubt anyone would love her even half as much as you do. Don’t give up your pet as long as you can provide feed/water, exercise and love. Don’t assume the worst-case scenario, who can know the future?


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                                  College is not the ideal time to have a rabbit for all the reasons you’ve stated, but people do it all the time, and they do it well. It’s not a permanent state. Your girl should be with you for 10 years, long after you are finished with college, so if you can get past this time when it’s a little more stressful, everything will be better.


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                                    Petzy, I would have to say that all *good* pet owners at one point worries if they are doing a good job or not!
                                    So, Bougatsa, BECAUSE your worried, you know your a good bunny momma!
                                    Good luck! I have a strong feeling everything is going to work out wonderfully!!!


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                                      I agree with everyone else! I think you’re doing the best you can, and considering most people where you live don’t seem to understand proper bunny care, I think she’s far better with you than anyone else.

                                      It can be frustrating when they don’t want love of affection – I’ve had Otto since April of last year and he still doesn’t really like pets! But I love just sitting with him and hand feeding him and he is getting better about affection. Just because your girl doesn’t like to be touched much, doesn’t mean she’s afraid of you or hates you – she probably just likes being around you without the touching. And it’s possible that she’s still nervous and settling in. I’ve had Hannah for over 2 months and she’s still a bit nervous of me at times – if I look at her funny, she thinks she’s getting in trouble and runs the other direction. It just takes a lot of time for bunnies to learn how to communicate with us and to learn what our signals mean. Remember that some of her behavior is because she’s unspayed and young – it’s not a reflection on how good or bad of a bunny parent you are. She will absolutely come around with time and the love and attention you provide her.

                                      I hope you feel better and less stressed about things! She has a great home with you and once you are through this stressful time, you’ll be so glad that you pushed through.


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                                        So I guess I am a good momma..!!

                                        But I still feel dissapointed. Because all I get from her is…poop and pee. She is so distant. Having a pet has started to mean one thing…cleaning. I am tired of it and whenever I go to let her out I feel so *ugh here we go again*… And I get frustrated by that and the fact that she wont show much affection. So I am still in a bad shape


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                                          I think the advice you have been given is good, and if you follow some of the tips and be patient, the rewards will be great. But it can take time.

                                          It sounds like right now though you are just frustrated and have little energy to deal. It’s never a good idea to make a decision one way or the other during stress so I’d say give it some time, be self-forgiving, be patient with yourself and your bunny and take a deep breath. You said you are a nervous and anxious person, and that can actually affect how animals react to us. I know when I am stressed out, my bunnies can be a bit on edge too. Sometimes animals can teach us alot about patience and a sense of calm. It’s not easy.

                                          I am not saying what you should do one way or the other, but I do think that you should wait until you feel settled before you make any big decision. Sometimes when we are stressed if we feel one particular thing will relieve us, it can be a hyper-focused decision— in hopes of relief. But I urge you to wait before making this particular decision.


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                                            Bougatsa, Tale it from another bunny owner who felt like crying, I felt the same way toward my bunny, Dustor who was and is still basically shy and unaffectionate with me. Under BEHAVIOR, try to read the thread Peacepipe er…truce treat for welcoming new bun and I hope you will feel less alone and in bad shape. There is a lot of excellent advice and support in that thread toward helping your bunny to grow more comfortable with you and eventually, bond with you. You are not alone. But after following Karla’s excellent tips she kindly shared with me about her developing relationship with her bunny Karl and how it came about, I’ve found that Dustor too IS eating out of my hand more, and is even calm and still for me when I need to pick him up. I gently pet him making no sudden movements and feed him treats out of my hand and little by little…one thing leads to another…and the next thing you know…he is making itme with you. Is your bunny litterbox-trained? I use Carefresh as a nice soft cushy-on-the-tushy litter that absorbs the urine but stays dry to the touch and keeps the bunny’s litterbox an inviting place to pee and poop. If you have the patience to follow Elrohwen’s tips on picking up all the poops and depositing them in the litterbox on a regular basis, I have no doubt that that will pay off in your bunny only pooping in the litterbox, as well. I mention these things as a way of making it less daunting on you to clean up after Phoebe. I think patience and persistence on your part will reward you with mutual affection between you and Phoebe and a more pleasant clean up time. Thanks for sharing your situation in so much detail. We are not alone. I hope you will feel better as you are such a great conscientous loving bunny mom and Phoebe knows it. Our buns are a little shy but they have the potential to come around and I’m sure you will bring out Phoebe’s affection. Don’t give up! Hope this helps. Fellow bunny owner comrade HUGS to you!

                                            – Lashkay


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                                              Hi, Bougatsa,

                                              You are very overwhelmed with anxiety right now, and believe me, I understand that completely. Often when we can’t fix several things that we are dealing with, we try to fix something we can take care of. You have control over your bunny’s situation and it’s the one thing you can do something for, since in your eyes she could feel better about her life than you do about yours at the moment. You are clearly tired and stressed, so you are putting a lot of that onto your life with her. It is possible that you are having some wise insight into both of your futures and she would be well off in a more stable home since you are a student right now, but the element of you not giving her the love and care she needs right now is not a factor. You’re a loving bunny mother. Period. So you’re looking at her future and yours, and seeing what could be done to make things better.

                                              Problem that I’m hearing you write is you are projecting the worst. It’s called expansive thinking. Something that goes wrong today will “Never” be OK. That’s rarely true. Bunnies do not hate you because you trim nails. They hate having their nails trimmed, but love you an hour later when you pet and feed them. Money in the bank changes constantly. Parents make you miserable one day and two years later get empty nest syndrome and offer to do things for you just to get you to visit. In other words, you can’t predict the good or the bad. Just accommodate and save for the worst while enjoying the present.

                                              I think you are in one of the most stressful transition periods of your life, which is why we counsel teens to wait to get a bunny if they are headed for college and post-college independence. But you already have her, so you want to sort out your anxiety of your own from your worries about her. May I gently suggest that you talk to someone, like a college counselor, to try to get the issues sorted out from the fears? It is a very scary time now, with fun plans, scary plans, and just piles of worries on each other. Sometimes another person can help you step back and make important decisions that make it better. You come first, and you need to find ways to make each step doable, not huge. Take things in pieces. If it’s not a problem today, call it fine and don’t add it to the future worries pile. But try to deal with what is happening today and look at the future in light of what needs to be handled now. If you need to save for travel and school, and don’t have a support system for caring for a pet, then consider your options for rehoming, or for temporary care for her while you’re gone. But if you want her in your life no matter what, then look at what it will take to keep her. Maybe a vet that’s got a sliding scale or pay plan available. Maybe a friend to do nail trims once a month. Maybe a job and a nest egg.

                                              {{{{{{{{{{Hugs. hang in there.}}}}}}}}}}}


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                                                Pam makes another good point… you are currently developing relationships on your Greek bunny forum. If you are going away for an extended length of time, it is very possible that someone local on that site may be willing to bunny-sit for you, or could direct you to another individual or group who could do this. This way you would not need to rely on your parents for this at all. Or if you feel you do need to rehome, you are building a network of responsible bunny people who may be able to help with that as well.


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                                                  I know I am so overwhelmed. Tomorrow I am going with my dad to the vet school for a check up and to maybe arrange the spay. He saw how nervous I got and decided to help me. For a moment I was okay and then I started worrying again for the danger of spaying ……


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                                                    It is scary. I agree. Since Meadow was only 4 months when we adopted her, she was home with us when it was time to have her spayed. It’s very worrying, but the relief you feel afterward is immense. After worrying thru my baby girl’s spay, I made an informal promise to myself that I’d try my best to only adopt bunnies after they’ve been spayed/neutered.


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                                                      I have decided to go to the vet school because of the money. I only hope I wont regret it later. Do you think I am making the right choice? There wont be students to do the surgery, only the doctors/professors of the vet school and probably the vet that has her own office(the expensive one) will be a part of it too. I think the anesthetic is injection but I am not too sure, I’ll ask tomorrow but it is probably injection not gas. There will be more than 1 doctors in the surgery too. Do all these sound okay? If my bunny is sensitive to the anesthetic anyway it doesnt really matter the place right? I just want to relax on that one too a bit…. If she dies I will be guilty as hell….


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                                                        I am a dental hygiene student, entering my final year of classes in the fall. The ONLY way for me to truly learn, is by working on real people. As I see patients, I am constantly reminded that if anything, they are receiving VERY THOROUGH care at the school, b/c there is always someone looking over my shoulder, checking and double-checking my work. I’m not on my own yet. So in this case, I would not worry too much about choosing to go to the school rather than the private vet. There are all kinds of checks and balances to make sure the students are learning and that things are being done the right way.


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                                                          Bougasta, that’s awesome to hear that you are going to the vet school! My cousin is a vet tech & she told me all about what they learned in school & hands on! A lot of the vet techs also work at a vets office already, just aren’t tech’s or vets yet! You won’t be disapointed in bringing Pheobe there! She will be in really good hands & remember people begome vet’s or vet tech’s because they love animals & want to help them, even save them! Please think positive & know everything will be ok!
                                                          About stressing Pheobe out about moving, imagine how stressed she’d be not having you in her life, you are everything to her, even if she’s not showing it right now! They do get stressed over moving, but get over it quickly. You ARE A GOOD BUNNY’s MOM! You are just like all of us when we first got our’s & learning! Hang in there!


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                                                            I’m so glad your Dad is helping you out with the spay. I agree that the vet school is an excellent choice. Just think, less than a week from now this will be behind you and she’ll be well, just a bit shaved.


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                                                              I would be 100% if I where in the US…but the greek univercities are not of high quality and responsibility. But I am glad that there wont be students performing the surgery as they have exams now. I will ask a few questions to the vet that is in charge of exotic pets and hope for the best. I am so stressed.. We have an appointment next wednesday for a check up, to ask my questions and then arrange the spay date.

                                                              These few last days I was truly a mess and worried my parents so much…they also yelled at me for stressing out that much. Now I am a bit more relaxed but still cant get over what the vet told me when I went on my own to the school; that bunnies have died.
                                                              Phoebe isnt allow out these few days, I only give her a few minutes each time cause she literally go and pee the sec she is out. But I do pet her in her cage. I hope she wont be too miserable :S


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                                                                I’m glad you are feeling better. I hope you get good answers to your questions, so you will relax even more after having spoken to the vets. And so nice of your dad to help! See, they do want to help you


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                                                                  Do I need to worry because they have actually lost bunnies in the vet school??? Have any of your vets lost bunnies too or is it just them? oh my god I cant stop thinking about it… I dont want to be responsible for her death!!!


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                                                                    My vet has lost bunnies. But it hasn’t been her fault. Some rabbits have underlying issues that make them more susceptible to anesthesia… and there’s no way to know this.


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                                                                      I have never asked these questions, so I don’t know. Honestly, my choice of vets is limited here in my area, so that piece of information will do me no good. It would just make me worry.

                                                                      I know it sounds cynical, but when mine have had to go through their surgery, I have told myself, that if they should die, then it is peaceful to die under anesteathics, and it would be so much better for them than dying from something painful or a disase. I know it is no comfort to you now when you are preparing yourself for this surgery, but when you think about, then you have already given Phoebe a great life. Imagine what her life would have been now if you had not picked her up?? So, should the unthinkable happen, I’m sure Phoebe is still grateful for that time she has been with you.

                                                                      And now to something more positively: she will be alright! Don’t worry about what may or may not happen. You cannot predict what will happen and isn’t it terrible to worry so much about something that never happens? Both you and Phoebe will be fine. Just make sure you have everything ready for her when she comes home to keep her warm and give her something nice to eat. Oh, and metacam!

                                                                      And fingers crossed for a good consultation!


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                                                                        That is a good way to think about it Karla. I know I’d much rather not know what was going on and go peacefully like that.


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                                                                          Just remember that the purpose of the procedure is to keep her from dying a terrible, prolonged death due to an awful disease (cancer) in the the prime of life. This is one operation conducted by skilled veterinarians who are good enough to teach others. Yes, it could happen. But the odds are greatly against it. Better to focus on everything you need to do to make her comfortable and heal well after the successful surgery is over.


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                                                                            Today I am feeling so relaxed. I’ve realised that it is not so difficult to have a bunny…actually it’s as difficult as I make it in my own head. We will live parallel lives, that’s it. I really shouldnt have worried that much after all. And I have the feeling that my parents will help me out at any time and take care of her whenever I need to leave.

                                                                            The appointment with the vet school (just for the check-up and talk with the vet) in on Wednesday. If I have the feeling that it is more safe to do it at the vet’s own office I will try to convince my parents to let me do it there, no matter the money… I will find a way to save up. Actually this morning I was worrying about the spay, my dad tried to comfort me and said that it is okay, he will ask the questions and talk to her and find out which way is the safest.

                                                                            After that I will just hope for the best. I am doing it for her own good in many aspects… I will just think positevely till the last minute. Thank you for the support, love you all


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                                                                              I’m happy for you Bougatsa! Good luck at the appointment!


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                                                                                So happy for you! Keep us informed on how you & Pheobe are doing! That’s why we are all here on this forum is to help everyone & their bunnies! I have been helped out so much on here too!

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