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Last Post by Petzy at 05/27/2010 03:59 PM (56 Replies)
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User is Offline Petzy
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05/17/2010 08:17 AM

A weasel is living next to my rabbits' outdoor play pen.  I am even worried he could enter into my basement where my rabbits live. I can't see any traces of him trying to slip in, and my basement is pretty new, so I think,  the only way for him to get in would be right through the window. A bug screen would not hold a weasel back.

I put a grate in the window so I can still open it for my rabbits to get fresh air.

The weasel is a least weasel, so very tiny. He can fit through any opening bigger than one inch.

here he is peeking out of his den

here he is taking bait from a trap. The weasel does not die in this video. The trap is not set up correctly.

I'd like to catch him alive but the live traps cost around $ 100 and a trapper I know said they don't always work. She said to snare the weasel.

The good news is that the weasel has probably been eating many mice, which is why I haven't been getting many, and that his den is not tunneling into my basement like I had thought. It only goes down and to the side a short distance.

I really wish I could just relocate him. However, for my basement on the inside, I have traps loaded now just in case.

The weasels are a real draw-back to any garage or basement habitat for a rabbit.

This is what I think of this weasel right now.

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User is Offline Andi
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05/17/2010 08:33 AM
What a pain he is, though super cute too LOL
Are there no rental traps? Sometimes an SPCA or something like that has them you can borrow.
Good luck with your weasle adventures.
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User is Offline Karla
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05/17/2010 09:08 AM
If I remember correctly in the other thread, the marten is closely related to a weasel, right?

I know that martens will move to a different location if you disturb them with noises and interruptions, as they prefer to live in quiet places. So, the recommendation is to place sound speakers near their habitat and turn it on at short intervals now and then. If it is possible to get a big flash light as well to go with the noises, that is used also.

Also, they hate the smell of naftalin and paradichlorbenzen - and if you prefer to use something less chemical, yew oil can be used to scare off any animals (although I have never found it to work on dogs, as it is also supposed to), but I know this is also recommended with martens.

I hope you solve this soon. I hate to see the little guy get killed, but I understand your worry.

User is Offline Petzy
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05/17/2010 09:11 AM
Yes, he is cute.

--There is no SPCA where I am. The county office rents out live traps but right now they are out.

My rabbits are upstairs in the main part of the house in a crate at night, to be safe. I'm sure they miss their 12' pen because I don't have that kind of space free in my house and it is uncomfortably hot for them too. We have no air conditioning. Deirdra especially is very unhappy in warm temperatures.
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User is Offline Petzy
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05/17/2010 09:14 AM
Posted By Karla on 05/17/2010 10:08 AM
  disturb them with noises and interruptions, as they prefer to live in quiet places.
Also, they hate the smell of naftalin and paradichlorbenzen

  I hate to see the little guy get killed

 

thanks, Karla, these are good ideas. I was thinking of what else I can do. I don't want to kill him, either. Plus, even once I catch him, I still have to deal with his den to prevent another from moving in.

I was looking for him this morning and he wasn't there, I wonder if I bothered him too much? I had splashed water into his den last night.

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05/17/2010 09:19 AM
If you go all in with noises, light shows, water splashing and smell at the same time, I'm sure he will consider moving somewhere else.

Keep up the work with annoying him, and hopefully soon somebody else - far away from you and the bunnies - will enjoy having him live in their yard and eating the mice.

User is Offline Petzy
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05/17/2010 09:21 AM
hehe... I was thinking of where I would relocate him if I did catch him.

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User is Offline Karla
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05/17/2010 10:27 AM

Now is not the time for anyone in your town to mess with you Well, unless, they have no pets, but only mice in the yard because then you will be a popular lady once you start looking for relocation place

Any woods nearby? Not too nearby perhaps, if weasels have a big hunting territory...do you know if they do?


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05/17/2010 10:38 AM

yes, there are woods nearby. The thing is in the winter I have seen weasels running out of the woods and crossing the main road here to head to where the houses are. I tried to find info on the weaselss home range but it isn't conclusively known how far they travel. Some suggest their range to be very large. It seems weasels maintain several dens with food caches in them. i wonder if he is in another den right now because I haven't seen him since Saturday.

edit: I looked up the wrong weasel: mine here is a least weasel and their home range comprises no more than 2 acres in size.

It says in wikipedia that least weasels are even more ferocious than other larger weasels...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_Weasel

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User is Offline Andi
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05/17/2010 11:24 AM
"more ferocious " oh wonderful!

I don't know if this will help, but when we get moles that dig up our yard i place thise little wind mill type toy things around the mounds, the spinning/vibration is enough to annoy the little feller to move on. maybe the spinninf of one of those near the opening will deter him some?
I bought a bunch at the dollar store and keep them in my shed.
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User is Offline Sarita
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05/17/2010 11:27 AM
Hopefully you can scare him away - I wouldn't want him around my house or my rabbits no matter how cute he is.

Do they carry rabies?

User is Offline Petzy
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05/17/2010 11:31 AM
yes, they may carry rabies.

I was trying to catch him by luring him into a small crate but I got scared he would bite me. I am not much of a trapper.

I am also concerned that if I scare him away, he would just retreat into one of his other dens and return to my basement wall at a later point.

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User is Offline Andi
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05/17/2010 12:53 PM
Can you fill in his den?
lol.... get your dogs to pee at the entrance?
We used to sue Coyotee urine around the rabbit shelter to deture those kinda guys. Apparently u can buy it.
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05/17/2010 12:54 PM

I was reading that weasels are belligerent by nature and I found this video of a weasel fight on youtube.

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User is Offline Andi
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05/17/2010 02:31 PM
Sorta off topic, but weasle related in a strange way - I used to stay on a family friends ranch during the summer when i was a kid, and they had stuffed dead animals through-out their log home. I remeber this little white weasle one, all ferocious looking stuffed on a small log. We asked my friends Dad how he shot something so small like that (and WHY?), and he said he hit it with his truck, and then had it stuffed...
YUCK, i highly doubt that poor thing looked that ferocious trying to runaway from a truck.
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User is Offline Lintini
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05/17/2010 03:48 PM
Ohh he's cute but I guess they are pretty naughty little things. I love the bunny butt. Good luck getting rid of him :p

I know, how about I come over and play my horn really loudly into his den. That should get rid of him!
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05/18/2010 09:41 AM

If you get rid of my weasel for me, I will bond all your bunnies for you, Lintini.

I saw him racing under my deck yesterday when we were cutting grass, it didn't bother him at all.

I put some meat inside my smallest crate and left it in front of his den last night. I wanted to see if he fit through the 1" by 1" openings in the crate's door.

 

this is the type of crate

He could not fit through the openings in the door, instead he chewed up the plastic, but didn't get the meat inside.

 

 

So I took down my bunny yard.

Even though my dog saved my rabbits from the weasel, I wouldn't want my rabbits in that pen again. I even think this weasel would try to take a rabbit from me in my presence.

I am thinking of buying a 1" by 1/2" rabbit wire and make something weasel-proof at some point.


 

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User is Offline Andi
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05/18/2010 11:00 AM
What a bummer, all that work just to have to redo it b/c of one little naughty weasle.
I'm surprised he couldn't fit through the bars, I fostered some young ferrets who i had to borrow a different carrier from as mine they were squishing through the bars LOL.
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User is Offline Karla
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05/18/2010 11:08 AM
I hope you find a solution soon, Petzy! Really, try to get some of these smelly products and chase him off with loud music.

I still think it is strange that a weasel would move into a place with two dogs, but I guess the smell of the rabbits is just soooo good to resist.

User is Offline Petzy
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05/18/2010 11:25 AM

Ugh! Thanks Andi -- I would have to make that wire 1/2" by 1/2" then. I read that the least weasel will start killing at as young as 40 days of age when I suppose they are still smaller than mine here.

Karla, my dogs are after him bad but he couldn't care less. He is fast as lightning. There is much food to eat for weasels here: squirrels, voles and mice to his heart's content. This weasel is just one of many.

Maybe the solution is for my quartet to be indoors and on the patio only with my two dogs.

However, I did read that weasels don't actually dig, they move into burrows that other animals they killed dug. This is good to know.

Andi, what else can you tell me about weasels?

 

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User is Offline Beka27
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05/18/2010 11:32 AM
Are weasels related to the domestic ferret in some way? I know nothing about them. Would it cost way too much to have him caught and relocated then?
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User is Offline Petzy
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05/18/2010 12:16 PM
Yes, the weasels are to ferrets what cotties are to our bunnies. They are just the wild counterpart.
I don't know, Beka, I will get this one but I don't feel good now about my rabbits on the ground out there. That weasel thing is like a tasmanian devil, totally speedy gonzales.
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User is Offline Elrohwen
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05/18/2010 12:19 PM
He's cute, but I hope you get rid of him!

Did the county know when they would have traps for you to borrow? Maybe if you wait a few months they'll have one available. I imagine it's hard to trap something that can fit through a 1"x1" hole though.
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User is Offline Sarita
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05/18/2010 12:33 PM
But if there is one, isn't there bound to be more? I know nothing about these critters other than they are vicious little animals that like raccoons.

Is there some kind of repellent you can purchase?

User is Offline usagi
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05/18/2010 12:44 PM
Petzy, can you try filling in the hole when he is gone? If he takes over the houses of his victims, maybe he won't dig out. Perhaps he would move on?

What if its a she? Yikes.

I actually think it's quite frightening looking - like a mammalian eel. Even more frightening with loved furry ones around.
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User is Offline Petzy
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05/18/2010 12:50 PM
Of course, there are more. Weasels are solitary but in favorable habitat up to 65 weasels can live in a range comprising 1 square mile. I consider my yard favorable. I want to close the den by my basement for sure so I need this one gone. Any repellent I read about was more to keep them from chewing certain things. I know the weasels do a good thing here by checking the population numbers of other vermin species. It is just such a bad situation for rabbits. Oh, this would also explain wht I never ever see wild rabbits here.
The best set-up for my quartet is one where my male dog is inside their enclosure with them.

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User is Offline Petzy
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05/18/2010 12:53 PM
Posted By usagi on 05/18/2010 01:44 PM
Petzy, can you try filling in the hole when he is gone? If he takes over the houses of his victims, maybe he won't dig out. Perhaps he would move on?

What if its a she? Yikes.

I actually think it's quite frightening looking - like a mammalian eel. Even more frightening with loved furry ones around.

 

Yes, I want to fill the den.

Now that you mentioned that it might be a female, I really cannot wait for the county's live-traps.

 

 

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User is Offline usagi
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05/18/2010 12:53 PM
Well, at least you have trusty watchmen.
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User is Offline Petzy
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05/18/2010 12:59 PM

I want to put this picture at the entrance of the weasel's den.

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User is Offline Petzy
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05/18/2010 01:02 PM
Lintini, here is a new deal: send your bunnies up to me along with your rat terrier, yes?
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