As long as no skin breaks and you break up the nipping -- continue with the sessions.

ok.. will do.

another day! i am not sure how long it was today but i am guessing 60 minutes at the very least.

today was AWSOME!!!!!! in the begning there wasn't much except maybe a few humps. but then they went and ate grass and stuff. there was a little more chasing but it was bad, like he would try to hump then lulu would run then he would walk a few steps but they didn't do any circles or anything. after awail i got bored and desided to sit down in the pen with them (now here comes the fun part) and i talked to them and when they came over to me and i petted them then they would sneek around me and nudge me on the back then they would try to climb on me. they were soooooooooo cute! they ran around me and i acted like a bunny when they would lay down togather i would lay my head down and say " go to sleep" and i would pretend to sleep. i know you probably think i am weird but i had a blast! after awail i got the feeling that mocha was getting jelues when i gave lulu atention cuz he would run her off. so i f=desided to stand up even though i was having fun. then mocha did a few binkys! yay!!! then one time when mocha walked up to lulu looking like he was going to hump here she did this huge side hop and landed on me. was it a binky do you think? there was lots of flops from lulu probably 5-6 of them. i think mocha might have floped a once but he layed down a lot. the cutest thing is when they would lay down next to each other, like when lulu would flop she would flop next to him ( they were head by head) and she would set her paw on his head then groom him! she did this a few times in a row!!!!!! mocha kinda humped a little but lulu learned just to run away and mind her own buisness. i had a blst on the groud with them though, and at one point lulu went on her hind legs and sniffed my face so i gave her a kiss on her head and she didn't care! once i put a dandielion on there heads, Lulu didn't really care but mocha looked at me like " git dis off my head wright now!" i am sure you guys now the look. hehe!

I am so happy for you that they had a blast, and you! I guess, the new place really relaxed them! I love sideways binkies!
I don't think you are weird, but I do think now you might be part rabbit... sleping on the grass... hehe.

yes it was fun! when do you think the humps will go down?

It will be a while, but soon enough it should not cause any serious fighting any longer.

does there have to be no humps at all going on in the pen before going to the next step? tommarow morning we are going home so i hope that will help. on the way here we stopped at a pet store and got some chew blocks and a bunch of willow sticks and the willow sticks are like completly distroyed. i am glad they like willow cuz i am getting willow toys in the mail tomarow for BB.

no, there will still be humping even by the time you are ready to cement them.

then how can you tell when to move them to the next step?

when there are no more fighting starts: when one goes for a humping, the other should either tolerate it, or take off successfully. When there are grooming requests, they should either be fulfilled, or at least be ignored without aggression. A little fur tuft pulled out form time to time is fine, though. Basically you look for if the buns want to be in the same place together; do they follow one another peacefully, do they lounge together reliably... this sort of thing.

well when mocha was laying by the edge of the fence lulu went over and flopped and groomed him and then they layed by eachother for about 5 minutes and then they got up and then they did it again but didn't stay as long. there were no nips except lulu would bite his but or side when she wanted to be groomed. is this the kind of stuff i want to see happen a few times then i know i am ready for the next step? if i want to do another one before tonight could i do it out side even though it is getting dark?

If the pen is safe and you will be with them the whole time, yes, you can do one more tonight.
You want to see positive intercations over and over a few times before moving up to the next level.

not sure if this was very positive....

the whole time mocha was chasing lulu! he would run up to her doing a soft grunt, then they would go round and round. then he started binkying around while chasing her! then somtimes he would run up to her and she would to a big side binking. then somtimes when he wasn't chasing her she would run around and jump over mocha. ( i guess he was her jump) toward the end they started a fast chase round and round really fast. they didn't stop til i went in the pen then they calmed down a bit. so i desided to end it. but i had a lot of trubble getting them in the carryer togather even with my moms help.so we had to take them one by one back to there cages. i am not sur what this whole session ment at all. i guess i am further away from the next step then i thought i was. oh yeah and for some reason mocha was chinning every thing! like i held a stick out to him for him to chew and he kept chinning it. could you explain what this ment? were they haveing fun running around binkying or what?

It was at dusk wasn't it? Rabbits really get their binkies on around that time of day. They can get a bit wild. Yes, you will need more sessions but they didn't fight, did they? So this is good! You are on your way! Evening sessions can be intense. Did you read about Otto & Hannah going hump-crazy at weird hours? It is a similar thing.

* when they jump over top of one another it is to avoid a confrontation. Like Neigey at the end of this video jumps over top of Deirdra.

 

yeah i herd about that. and yes it was dark they were prety active. nope. there were not even a bite the whole time! not even butt bites from lulu. lulu only groomed him once. i know i am very far from cementing but i kinda want to know if i need to buy a smaller cage for that? or can i use nic cubes, and if so how big? or should i use a dog crate? i just kinda want to plan a head cuz if i need to buy a cage i will have to start saving now cuz i don't have any money. and if i need to build one i need to ask my dad to make a floor for it. just wondering thanks!!!!

ok i will have to watch that video tomarrow unless i can get it to work. cuz i my grand parents have very slow dial up so it might not work but i will try!

You don't need to buy a small cage for bonding. You might just be able to put something together from the things you have: xpen, NIC grids, etc. Not all rabbits can be, or need to be in as small a cage for cementing like Elrohwen's Otto and Hannah.
let's see how they are when you get back home, this will give you a correct measure because it will be on their 'home turf'.

i just watched the video.

was Neigey's jumping over Deirdra similar to what Lulu and Mocha were doing last night?

the thing was mocha would be sitting there looking out of the xpen not even moving and she would run around and jump over him.

oh! that's different then! I would say she was just using him as an obstacle to binky over!

i think she likes to show off her skills to her man!

Sounds like Mocha couldn't care less... sitting motionless watching the scenery... too funny!

i wish i had gotten it on camera but i didn't want to leave them to go get it.

Bonding interactions are the funniest... but never leave them unattended!

i am going to goo try to find a place to do a bonding session want me to take video?

Are you really asking? You know, I believe bonding videos are so great -- please!

hehe. Okay