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    • MimzMum
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        …perhaps I should change my signature to “We’re all mad here….I’m mad, you’re mad…”

        I really need somewhere to vent and, although I made strong statements a month ago, the wall I put up that I thought was secure is crumbling.

         

        This is why:

        She’s at our shelter. Just in the last few days. I want to ask my hub if we can at least go look at her, but I’m too cowardly because he’s going to throw a huge fit. Then I get to hear about how we swore we’d have no more, how hard it is when you have to let them go, etc., etc.

        Or maybe…I’m too scared he’ll say yes, then I’ll live to regret it.

        Help. Please. Or I’m going to have to check myself in to the Cookie Factory.


      • Lintini
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          Well. We only live once. If she is something you are really interested in I know you will ask him. She’s beautiful. You have a strong heart Mim, and you would make a great owner for a new dog in need of a loving new home. – But you already know that!


        • Monkeybun
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            Its hard to let them go yes, but life is so bleak without them.


          • Lintini
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              Very true Monkeybun…I would say the 12ish years with them outweighs the painful ending days. You can’t compare those 2 together really.


            • angelicvampyre
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                I always believe that animals come into your life when they both need you or you need them. Maybe print out the picture and place it somewhere you husband will find it. If he asks what or who the dog is go from there, if he says no before knowing any more then you know he is not ready.


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                  Well the interesting thing is, when we were waiting for Mimzy to recover from his last dental, omg, there were so many dogs there in the office. He started talking about how smart he thought the Australian shepherd is (it’s a nice dog, but not one of my faves) and I was still pretty much in defense mode so I said I thought the Mack husky was more intelligent. So the subject kind of got dropped, probably because he thought I would start blubbing there in public. Sometimes I think he’d be interested…other times…eh…..
                  There’s so many other extenuating circumstances too. Lots of money stress and personal stress. It’s probably just not the right time. But it bums me out because this little girl looks so right.

                  Of course, I worry he’ll cut off my internet if he thinks I’m looking for a new dog. He thinks I spend too much time on the PC as it is.


                • Monkeybun
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                    Who knows MM, he might be wanting one and think you’ll react the way you think he will react


                  • MimzMum
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                      I know he wants an Aussie Shepherd. I just don’t think that kind of dog can handle our cold. I dont’ want another dog to suffer outdoors like ours did (although shadow and his kids were strong dogs, it is jsutnot fit outside for man nor beast most of the winter.


                    • Sani
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                        aw what a cute doggie owo
                        i see shes putting on her goo goo face juuuuust for you LOL


                      • MimzMum
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                          I don’t even know how I’d start the conversation. “Hi honey, have a good day, btw, I saw this cute goggie on the shelter webpage….”
                          That thud you just heard is my computer being thrown out the window. ~_~


                        • Monkeybun
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                            I like the leave a pic of the puppy somewhere idea


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                              The point may be moot….looks like her picture disappeared this evening. Although I think it’s still on petfinder.
                              I’ll check again tomorrow. No point in mentioning it if she’s not there.


                            • LoveChaCha
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                                Awww


                              • MimzMum
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                                  Meh…nevermind…she’s back up again….
                                  AGH! Do I take this as a sign for no or yes?? >_<

                                  And that darned Sarah McLaugclan commercial is on again…I keep seeing the darned thing.


                                • Monkeybun
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                                    Seems like a sign to me


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                                      Hogeeze… but is it a sign of yes…or no??
                                      lol…Deal? Or No Deal? I think I’d have more luck convincing Howie.
                                      I am such a coward. Of course, hub is asleep now anyway, so it doesn’t matter tonight, but…bleah! And he’s taking off first thing for town tomorrow A.M., so now I have to wait till afternoon….

                                      *sigh* Can I get some ‘make a decision’ vibes from y’all? I mean, I know what K&K would do, lmao, but she’s not married to my husband. And I’m noticing some ambivalence in myself as well, so I’m wondering if I’m really up for it?
                                      Funny thing is…this dog has a face that reminds me of our old German Shepherd, which is REALLY spooky. She was Shadow’s bestest best friend for many years. He was devastated when she died…as were we all.

                                      *insert Twilight Zone theme here* Do-do-do-do do-do-do-do….. DO I or DON’T I??? *tears hair out*

                                      See? Mad as a hatter…. 0_o


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                                        I’d say go for it and mention it to him. If he goes for it, you’d be saving one helpless little soul from the shelter, unless of course she doesnt like bunnies O.o


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                                          She and the bunnies will not meet. I have a thing about dogs and rabbits, I don’t think they go together except in rare situations…like K&K’s. (Mikey is a great bunnysitter!)
                                          And she’d have to pass the allergy test. If her fur bothers me or her spit rashes my arm, I can’t have that. My nasal passages are suffering through every hay change for the bunnies as it is.

                                          I’m just wondering how the old cat will handle it too…she liked dogs, LOVED Shadow and our shepherd, but a new dog?? She has enough trouble since Kitty’s been here…I don’t want a new pet to be the last straw for her.

                                          But you’re right, MB…what is the worst that can happen? He’ll say no. And my heart will be broken. But, if that’s the decision, I’ll have to live with it.
                                          I’ll have to take all night to pluck up my courage (can you tell the Cowardly Lion was my fave character in the Wizard of Oz?) and be sure she’s there again tomorrow…then….*takes a deep breath and holds it*

                                          Well..wish me luck. Going to clean bunnies, soak my stupid toe, go to bed and pray I’m not divorced by tomorrow evening…lol.


                                        • Monkeybun
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                                            If you don’t ask, you’ll always be wondering ‘what if?” so may as well ask

                                            Nite MM!


                                          • jerseygirl
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                                              What’s her mix? I’m assuming she’s a mix breed…Is there some Lab or Goldie there? Wasn’t your other girl a goldie mix?
                                               

                                              And she’d have to pass the allergy test. If her fur bothers me or her spit rashes my arm, I can’t have that. My nasal passages are suffering through every hay change for the bunnies as it is.

                                              Can you go in and meet her independantly? This might be a good way to assess re allergies. If it’s bad news – well then you don’t even need to bring her up with hubby. (Or does that seem deceitful?). If your missing having the dogs about, it might be good to visit the shelter and see some of them. Thing is – Can you go in there and come back out without one in tow?!

                                              Speaking of dogs…..are you familar with the Maremma? Omgoodness. Sort of a goldie/lab look but white & taller. It’s an Italian breed that were bred to guard sheep herds. Live out there with the flock.  Apparently they are very protective of who they view as their family – meaning adults/kids & other animals.

                                              Here’s some I found locally. Can you tell I’m very taken with them?!

                                               

                                                   < hee hee!

                                              Actually, just looking back at the pic of dog you posted – I can see why I was reminded of these Maremmas.

                                               


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                                                WOW they looks like white golden retrievers!!! o___O
                                                what beautiful dogs!

                                                my personal favorite breed is the Shiba Inu. here my baby. his name is Neiko. the breed is a little difficult to work with because they like to live by thier rules. i like them because they look like foxes and their about the same size as one too (very small breed)
                                                 

                                                 


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                                                  How sweet! How old is he? He also looks like a baby dingo.

                                                  MM, now that I’m looking at that picture again I can almost see like a terrier breed in it…that line down the centre of the face is a bit like irish terrier yet face shape is not. Will be really interested to know what she is – that is if the shelter even knows.


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                                                    MM, a dog is like a baby in that the time is never quite right, but a few things need to be in place, like you have to know what you’re getting into etc. be comitted and that sort of thing. These things you already have in place. I don’t usually last long in between dogs, meaning I usually have gotten a new one within a month of my previous dogs’ passing. I would definitely ask your husband if I were you. The only thing that worries me for you is the allergy thing and also that you would not consider rabbit-proofing the dog. What if your dog sneaks in the bunnies’ room one day? In those regards, it would be better if your dog lived outdoors, but then you should have two dogs. I understand you have some sort of structure where your former dogs lived inside of? They never suffered frost bite, or did they? It’s all about the set-up. It can work.


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                                                      Here’s my take on this – stay away from Petfinders :~) No, really. Spend time with the buns for now. And don’t do anything without asking hubby (about this type of thing anyway). I know you have had a very rough time losing your sweet pups so recently but revel in the time that you have taking care of yourself and enjoying a little less time taking care of pets and a little more time taking care of yourself.

                                                      After having so many rabbits and being done to 5 which is so few compared to what I’ve had and losing so many in the past 4 months, I’m kind of enjoying having a more manageable life. Maybe you can too.


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                                                        Good point Sarita.


                                                      • MimzMum
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                                                          Well…it took all the nerve I could muster…and a lot of hand-wringing, and I was up all nite nervous about it…but….I finally asked him.

                                                          And he said….yes.

                                                          And I called the shelter.
                                                          And the clueless person I spoke with said, “Oh that’s a lost dog, ma’am. Our website gets complaints like this all the time, that’s just a lost dog alert.”
                                                          I asked her if it wasn’t claimed would it be up for adoption? She replied…(speaking VERY slowly) “No ma’am, the dog isn’t even on the premises, it is a LOST dog. Somebody LOST …that … dog.” (Like I’m stupid or something…. *grumble* )
                                                          So if it’s not on site…why is it’s picture taken in the shelter medical exam room? >_< Plus it's even on PETFINDER as an adoptable???

                                                          CRASH AND BURN………0_o;; ;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;

                                                          Honestly, I despise stupid people…. ~_~

                                                          Upside: hub is okay with a dog. (SHOCK of the century!)
                                                          Downside: besides not being the one I felt drawn to, he wants whatever we get to be 1) a PUPPY -oh gosh, gone through THAT before…bit of a nightmare, that…and 2) it will be my DAUGHTER’S dog. I am to have as little to do with it as possible.

                                                          ….

                                                          (Yah, right…guess who’s going to be doing doggy duty in 3…2…1…? Seriously…she wants to get to college within the next year and move out! How would she take a dog with her?)

                                                          But yeah, since he feels I ‘stole’ Pip from my daughter (I had to take her into ‘custody’ since my daughter wasn’t taking care of her at the time with her school workload! She’s welcome to take on bunny maintenance duties any time she wants!) he has no intention of me ‘taking over’ with another animal. *eyeroll*

                                                          Sooo…that’s where we are.

                                                          Oh, and his surgery on his jaw is back on again…for tomorrow! >.< This day just gets better and better. I get to leave here with him at 6 AM (say it ain't so!!!) because they need an immediate relative there to drive him home and to bark instructions at the nurses in case of the need for resuscitation and stuff. (Hubby has low BP to start with and they all freak out when it will drop suddenly for no apparent reason…so hopefully they don't have complications tomorrow…please keep a good thought for him!)

                                                          I am a wreck…too many highs and lows today. I’ve got a really strong headache painkiller in me right now and will have to get to bed early tonight, so y’all may not see much of me.
                                                          Oh, and more joy…my toe is now showing signs that the doc didn’t get all the growth he was supposed to remove. In fact, it appears there’s TWO of them now. *groan*

                                                          I’m bein’ punished, aren’t I? 0_o

                                                          Anyway… Thanks for all the support guys. Sorry to drag you down the rabbit hole with me. You are all such good friends and so wise! You really made this all very clear and easier to bear for me. Thank you!
                                                          Love to all!
                                                          MM


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                                                            Thats kind of silly to post a dog on petfinder thats “lost”. I think that person was smoking something. maybe try calling again tomorrow?

                                                            Yay for hubby saying yes! I hope you find a nice pup, maybe go down tot he shelter and take a look, might fall in love with someone there

                                                            And Vibes for hubby person thing! Hope the surgery goes well


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                                                              Perhaps it was one of their previous shelter dogs adopted out then lost? So they just used the old images. And petfinder isn’t updated much. Though, having something like “Lost Dog” with it’s picture on their site would be mighty helpful!!  

                                                              Edit: I found her petfinder post. Nice name! .  Well she is posted amoung other listing that clearly state “Lost dog, not at shelter”   So perhap there is some kind of mix up – and the person on the phone has mistaken who you meant?

                                                              Didn’t hubby look at puppies recently. Really sounds as if he is keen for a young one. Though, you may be able to talk him round.  Apparently another dog is not out of the question so there’s room for negotiations.

                                                              Hope all goes well for him tomorrow!!


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                                                                I’m so happy for you Mimz!!
                                                                We all must take chances


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                                                                  Hi, MM, just catching up on this now.

                                                                  First, {{{{{{{{{{successful healing vibes to Hubby today}}}}}}}}}}}}

                                                                  Next, that is a lovely dog and while it will not be yours after all, to sound all newagey, “when the student is ready the teacher will appear.” That was your teacher who said “who are you all kidding? Of Course you’re getting another dog eventually. End of subject.”

                                                                  As for the stealing-your-daughter’s-pet baloney: He is setting up to steal her dog himself. That’s why it’s “her” preference of breed, read His, and she is leaving in a year so “well OK. I will care for your dog for you if I must” that he’s rehearsing to say to her. Still want him to get well despite the baloney, which is bad for the blood pressure. Salads and a new dog for his health. It’s possible that the reason for a puppy is to not go through the aging agony for several years again. Just an idea.

                                                                  I love those maremmas. How beautiful! Anyway, Shadow will find you your next dog and you will know it.


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                                                                    Shadow will find you your next dog and you will know it

                                                                    Agreed.


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                                                                      ooOo!! A puppy! Ha Mim!! I knew you would ask!! Sorry that little girl you had your eyes on is a lost dog But that’s okay there are so many dogs that need a loving home like yours! I am so happy for you!


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                                                                        Posted By MimzMum on 04/14/2010 06:00 PM
                                                                        1) a PUPPY 2) it will be my DAUGHTER’S dog. I am to have as little to do with it as possible.

                                                                        can I ask, does your daughter want a puppy?


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                                                                          Just catching up on this thread now.. Wow, hubby said yes??? That’s how I felt when I when I asked for a kitten…and then a third bunny. If it’s going to be your daughter’s dog, at least you will get to enjoy it all the same.

                                                                          Too bad about that pic you posted. What a beautiful dog.


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                                                                            My daughter does indeed want a dog. She was very quietly devastated when we lost Shadow. Upon seeing him in his last hours before we took him to the vet, she knew he was in dire straits and the emotion in her voice as she said his name was heartbreaking.
                                                                            Since she’s over 18 now, and we often leave her at home alone while we run errands in town, she is feeling vulnerable without Shadow here to protect her, which despite his age he would’ve done to his last breath. Yes, she has plans to go to college next year, but she hasn’t even begun to pass her GED yet, so I think her perception of the time needed to prepare for university is a bit skewed. She’s going to be here longer than she thinks.

                                                                            Personally, I’ve managed to cool somewhat knowing that the dog I thought had chosen me is not what I thought it was. (That’s a dirty trick the shelter is playing…I feel like I’ve been baited and switched!) And that’s good because the poor hub is in bad shape after his surgery. His poor mouth is all bruised up, his face looks like a sasquatch who swallowed a chipmunk and he is in a lot of pain. Had we run off to get another dog, he’d be even more agitated, methinks.

                                                                            Yes, I am sure Shadow is leading me. I can’t tell you guys how much serendipity is hitting me this week…I see that commercial several times a day, different things that spark memories of Shadow are constantly flashing at me…even my DSi, when I start it up, although it’s on random and I have a hundred snaps in it, his picture shows at the top just about every time. It’s like when you first get pregnant and then suddenly all you see are baby and diaper commercials or the like.

                                                                            So I am willing to be patient. I have the o.k. to proceed, we’ll know when (and who) and as we are ready, the answer will come.

                                                                            Thanks to all for your continued support and advice. And yes, I am enjoying my time with my bunnies…especially since my foot is killing me and I have to put it up a lot, so there are always little beady eyes looking at me with my digits resting on a pillow and my fingers drumming. ^_^

                                                                            Both hub and I go back for rechecks on the 22nd, btw. Since neither of us is happy with the results of our separate surgeries, I think there’s going to be a few rows. He’s not shy about voicing his opinion. 0_o


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                                                                              And the frustration continues….
                                                                              So I found a cl ad last night that was offering a husky pup, 9 weeks. My daughter fell in love immediately and I made a call. I should’ve known somethign was up when the gal (somewhat flustered) ont he line was trying to get me to come in last night (at 9:30?).

                                                                              So we told her we’d be in about 1 PM today, since she claimed they’d be there. So even with his face throbbing, for his little girl, my hub drove us in. And since I was too stupid to get directions last night, we arrived at the appointed place (it was on base) and tried calling. I wound up having to leave a voicemail, thinking-they must be busy with the BBQ they said they were having today.

                                                                              Well we toddled all over base, hoping to see smoke signals. No luck. Went back off base and picked my son up to take him tot he bank, dropped him back off and went to do the grocery thing, hoping to hear form the puppy people. “Someone” at the number finally called and said they weren’t there today, so don’t bother. (this person had an Asian dialect apparently, according to the hub) So figuring we were getting put off, we went home.

                                                                              I did give the # a final call tonight. Some guy answered and claimed the number was a pool hall and they’d been getting calls for the dog all day. WT…??? (you know what)

                                                                              I hate people. I really do. My daughter is heartbroken and I am thoroughly steamed and pressed. What unbelievable cheek!
                                                                              Had to be a scam…looking to roll some unsuspecting fool for $100. Didn’t count on me bringing an ex-Marine with me apparently. >_<

                                                                              Very ambivalent this evening. Has anyone here ever had something like this happen to you?


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                                                                                Oh that sucks big time MM


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                                                                                  Tell me about it. *steams* You could fry a dozen eggs on my temper. I’m still seething.

                                                                                  Ah well….strike two and it feels like the bottom of the ninth. But I’m trying to just deal. I can’t rush this, I know. When it’s right (if it ever is) we’ll know. But still…who needs this aggravation?

                                                                                  My foot is killing me too. Been on it all day. We’ve been joking about how the doc is going to tell me we have to amputate. My son is already beginning to call me “Ninetoes”. 0_o;;


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                                                                                    MM,
                                                                                    I think you need to slow it down a bit. You and Hubby both need some healing time. I would avoid Craigslist.
                                                                                    You have local shelters (though the one that just pulled that on you isn’t so great) and vets who treat patients with dogs that have puppies. In fact, if your vet knows of a new litter of a kind of dog you want, that would be good for picking out a puppy but then waiting a few weeks to get it while it weans. Which would give you guys time to get back on your feet.

                                                                                    Other option is to read your local paper for puppy ads. I know Craigslist is easier, but it’s easier for scammers too. The local paper has the kind of dogs that are raised in your area, which means they are good breeds for you to look at. And they have to go to the trouble of placing an ad, so often it’s people who care more. Plus you can check them out because they probably had to register with the paper as well.

                                                                                    Anyway, just some suggestions.  I think the beady eyes want some snuggles on the bed with you.
                                                                                    Feel better.


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                                                                                      You will find the right dog…or he will find you,probably when you least expect it.


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                                                                                        Well, my girl was so unhappy last night, it looks like she is no longer in the market for a dog anyway, so the point is probably moot…although daddy is looking at placing a phone call to our tradio tomorrow. (I made the mistake of lamenting her new attitude, and this was his way to fix it, so I’m going to have to back him down I think.)
                                                                                        Pam has a good idea, if it was even plausible now. My guess is, we’re probably going to hold off. My daughter has trust issues that stem way back, this was a blow and she’s not going to forgive and forget easily.

                                                                                        I just wanted to add that I checked the post again this morning because I was going to flag it…it has been removed and there is only the rebuttal to it that somebody placed last night about how stupid these people were to rehome this dog.
                                                                                        I still think it was a scam. But considering the tones of the people answering the phone number, it just could’ve been their way of blowing off anyone who answered the ad because they’d changed their minds. No one has the cajones to just tell you, “Sorry, we’re keeping him.”

                                                                                        So the madness has passed. Thank God. It was probably a bad idea anyway.

                                                                                        I also meant to say, yes, Sani, I do like the Shiba Inu. I have read about how they are hard to train, however, and that’s what stops me.

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