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Last Post by MirBear at 3/26/2010 10:05 AM (30 Replies)
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User is Offline Beka27
Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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3/23/2010 11:27 AM
I don't really think this is the place for this type of discussion... but I will say that I don't *think* using the same MALE for breeding constitutes "overbreeding". B/c the male is not DOING THE WORK of going thru gestation, birth, and nursing over and over and over. Overbreeding is a concern with females.

I do however think it's awful that they are irresponsibly cross-breeding bunnies, and so many of them. I agree that this person doesn't sound like a good breeder, or person. I would definitely not have any dealings with them.
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User is Offline Elrohwen
Hudson Valley, NY
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3/23/2010 11:43 AM
I agree with Beka on all counts. It is also very dangerous to breed a large breed father to a small breed mother as it is very easy for the kits to be too large for her body to handle.

I wouldn't have any further dealings with this breeder.
- Elrohwen

User is Offline MirBear
Kitchener, Ont. Ca.
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3/23/2010 12:30 PM

i do not deal with this breeder, i was mainly conserened with the number of kits he puts out with ONLY one male... 4 litters a month... and i dont know how many does he has but im sure not many

was actually going to come back and appologise for stealing the thread .

My Siamese Sweethearts, Hershey & Twix........... <3 And In My Attempted Un-selfish Thoughts I Find Myself Thinking... If This Is The Best I Can Do With Just My Thoughts, Than What Is The Best That Can Be Done By Someone Who Has Not Only my Thoughts But The Chance To Make Them A Reality?

User is Offline Lunar~Atticus
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3/23/2010 3:04 PM
that is the place the pic of the bunny i was suppossed to get on the 28th was going to come from...DEFINETLY NOT now for I am not ready after heifer and well, i dont want an over bred offspring...i get the feeling that is along the same lines getting an incest bred offspring?! when the time comes, i will be looking for a flemmie cross for that is what i have ALWAYS wanted and when i couldnt find one, i took the biggest buns i could find...heifer and moose.

User is Offline Beka27
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3/24/2010 12:29 AM
It's hard when you have your heart set on a specific bun, b/c you feel like you have to snatch up the first one you see! I also really, really, really want a Flemish Giant! Keep on the lookout. It would be better of course to get a flemmie thru a rescue, there are not many in rescues, but they do show up from time to time. And if you absolutely HAVE TO HAVE A FLEMMIE, and there are none in local rescues, I'd personally prefer seeing you go thru a reputable breeder who is not carelessly cross-breeding and who has documentation to prove that these rabbits are healthy and purebred.

Another concern besides birth with a small mom and large dad... you don't know what kind of health problems may crop up later on. Let's say that the bunny is smaller with a "Lionhead head", but the teeth are disproportionately large due to the flemish crossbreeding. You are looking at continuous health problems and malocclusion... just b/c the teeth "don't fit".

This happens frequently in humans:
dad's big jaw, mom's itty bitty teeth = gaps between your teeth ---> you need braces
mom's small jaw, dad's humongous teeth = crowded, misaligned teeth ---> you need braces (this scenario was me, 4 teeth pulled and 4 years of braces.)

So I'm off an a tangent... but you get my point.
Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline MirBear
Kitchener, Ont. Ca.
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3/24/2010 10:40 AM

i understand you are not into getting another bunny right now but if you choose to in the future,  i showed becka a pic of a flemmie who i adore  a few threads back..... i'll post the link in a moment.

http://www.rabbitrescue.ca/adoption...bbits.html

he's the fourth one down, his name is Gizmo!

(btw the shelter wont adopt out unless all the buns in your home are fixed or are too young to get fixed but you are planning on sputering them)

My Siamese Sweethearts, Hershey & Twix........... <3 And In My Attempted Un-selfish Thoughts I Find Myself Thinking... If This Is The Best I Can Do With Just My Thoughts, Than What Is The Best That Can Be Done By Someone Who Has Not Only my Thoughts But The Chance To Make Them A Reality?

User is Offline angelicvampyre
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3/24/2010 12:13 PM
Register will all your resuces and say you want a flemie that way if one comes in they should call you. Also check with your vet they may know of a breeder for when you are ready.

KNow this that least your little girl was happy right up untill the end. There was nothing you could have done any differenet and I am sure she enjoyed herself with you.
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User is Offline Lunar~Atticus
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3/24/2010 5:17 PM
an update of moose:
today i opened her cage door, actually crate door, to let her play and explore for her time out as i do everyday around the same time and guess what:...SHE CAME OUT TO EXPLORE AND EVEN DID ONE BINKY! im soo proud of her. her spirits are finially lifting. this is the first time since heifer passed that she has binkyed and came out of her cage. last nite she wandered her cage as though looking for something and thumped over and over again...it seems to me she was looking for heifer? it broke my heart either way. but today she came out to explore. ran around a bit and binkyed once so i am proud og her.

as far as getting another rabbit goes, not right now and i dont know if im going to be ready for some time. it hurts to think of heifer and well, i hope to not go thru that again for at LEAST 10 years!

User is Offline Beka27
Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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3/25/2010 12:05 AM
When the time is right, it will happen. I'm glad Moose is seeming a little bit better.
Meadow..... Photobucket ...... Max, my angel bunny

User is Offline TARM
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3/26/2010 2:52 AM
I'm so sorry about Heifer. She was beautiful.

I'm a huge fan of flemmies. It's too bad you're so far away because my rescue has a gorgeous fawn buck.

That breeder person sounds horrible. I'm sending all kinds of bad karma vibes his way. :0( I hope his breeding stock is at least well taken care of.

User is Offline MirBear
Kitchener, Ont. Ca.
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3/26/2010 10:05 AM
they live in thoses wooden breeder cages ... it disgusts me!
My Siamese Sweethearts, Hershey & Twix........... <3 And In My Attempted Un-selfish Thoughts I Find Myself Thinking... If This Is The Best I Can Do With Just My Thoughts, Than What Is The Best That Can Be Done By Someone Who Has Not Only my Thoughts But The Chance To Make Them A Reality?
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