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jess&peter 
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| 03/06/2010 01:48 PM |
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I don't have any on hand -- I'm giving him another hour before going back to the vet. : ( |
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MimzMum  Interior Alaska
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| 03/06/2010 03:26 PM |
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I just went through a bout of stasis with my Holland lop male, and I found that during recovery, the poo will tend to start and stop. Drove me crazy with worry. Everything I've read says that this can be normal and you need to keep the bunny as unstressed as possible and give the treatment time to work. It can take as long as two weeks for all functions to return to completely normal. I'm not sure two hours is long enough to be a concern. But you must go with what you vet has told you to do. Is he in pain? In a hunched position or does he seem to be shivering again? I just reread your post and see that he's eating lots of greens. That's good.  I notice my bun seems to desire more greens since his stasis. As long as stuff is still going in, then something should be coming out probably by this evening. It stinks when they are sick over the weekend. I'm fortunate in that my vet is open Sat.'s & Sun.'s, or I'd be a basket case. (Although some folks here may vote that I already am one...lol.) Come on Peter...let's see some of those lovely rabbit raisins! ((((((((((healthy poo vibes)))))))))))) |
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Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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jess&peter 
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| 03/06/2010 06:52 PM |
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I just got home from the vet -- and of course, after not pooping all day, the second I got him home, he pooped! Not a lot, but some. The vet took an other round of x-rays and found no reason for alarm with what she saw -- no visible blockages, no major gas issues. She gave me a bottle of cisapride tablets to use in conjunction with the reglan and metacam -- has anyone tried this particular combo before? I was told if he didn't poop, or acted lethargic or uncomfortable to take him to the 24 vet tonight. I'm still closely watching him, of course. He's acting pretty much normal -- eating, drinking, and feisty as ever. He's not showing signs of discomfort or pain right now, so hopefully this will be an uneventful night. MimzMum, thank you so much for your post -- it really eases my mind that this is likely normal and it will take him a while to get back on track. I'm so sorry you've gone through this, too! I know I was being slightly alarmist by not giving it more time, but I had a window to get him to his normal vet before they closed and could avoid the expense of the 24 hour vet. What a learning experience this has been. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I just wanted to say again how much I truly appreciate all of you. The comfort and insight you've given Peter and me has really made such a difference. I am so grateful. I'll keep you posted on this thread if anything changes. Also, I'll let you know how VPI does with the reimbursements...
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jess&peter 
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| 03/06/2010 07:31 PM |
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By the way -- '((((((((((healthy poo vibes))))))))))))' made me laugh out loud. Only a bun's mom would get it. : ) |
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Moonlight_Wolf  United States of America, Pittsford, New York
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| 03/06/2010 08:43 PM |
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More healing vibes going your way!! ((Vibes)) And Katnip - did you have to feed Schroeder Enulose at night? Do you still do that? I will message you so that I don't take up this thread with my questions. |
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sophie*bun 
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| 03/06/2010 08:59 PM |
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jess&peter, I'm sorry you are experiencing this. It is truly awful to watch your bunny struggle with gas or GI. I hope everything will be OK with your bunny. So far, my bunny has had two gas episodes all within the last year. She also flops and lies down on her stomach and looks very uncomfortable. We have taken her to emergency every time and then to her regular vet the next day and discovered it was gas bubbles and possible GI. Sometimes gas bubbles can occur in bunnies even if you do everything right, feed them a proper diet, give them lots of hay/water and exercise, so don't think it's anything that you could have caused. Just like people, they get upset tummies and some buns are more sensitive than others. One thing you have to watch for is the temperature, if their temperature is too low they can go into a shock so it's very important to keep your bunny warm and if possible hydrated (by a syringe). It's handy to have something like Critical Care from Oxbow on hand, because when your bun is having tummy problems and not eating, Critical Care provides their gut with the necessary fiber to help get it moving. Best wishes! |
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jess&peter 
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| 03/07/2010 07:52 AM |
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I'm happy to report that it was an uneventful night -- he slept on my bed again (I put an extra blanket on top of the bed and put his cage in the corner so he'd have access to his litter box / food / hay). I think he was exhausted from not sleeping yesterday afternoon -- he stretched out and went into the funny deep sleep mode with lots of face twitching. : ) He's pooping, too. They're pretty normal looking, though I did find one cluster of 6 pellets stung together with hair. Hopefully it's all starting to come out now. He's still on the reglan / cisapride / metacam combo. sophie*bun, you are so right on. The major thing that was missed on Wednesday night (when he was so close to death) was his temperature -- I just trusted the vet when she said she wasn't concerned. I'm still mad at myself for not knowing about the hypothermia risk with stasis. I actually told the vet yesterday that they made a mistake in sending him back home with me on Wednesday with a temp of 98.8, especially since they also administered room-temp (or cold) sub-q fluids. He was down to 94 when I got him back to the emergency vet around 1am -- they immediately started him on warm fluids and put him in an incubator-like thing to keep get his body temp back up. I hope this info will be a lifesaver to someone else! |
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jerseygirl  Australia Posts: 11325


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| 03/07/2010 08:07 AM |
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Oh gosh.... So good you said something though as it can possibly be a learning experience for all. I also saw that meds don't work properly when a rabbit is hypothermic. I'm just so glad that Peter made it! |
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jess&peter 
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| 03/07/2010 08:34 AM |
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jerseygirl, I want to say a special thanks to you for replying back to my very first post -- I'm on the West coast and it was the middle of the night by the time all of this really got serious. It was such a comfort to have communication with someone about what was happening! I'm really glad I said something, too -- I said it to a different vet at the same facility and now I have a note on his chart that we don't want to see the first vet again. I am a firm believe, now more than ever, in seeing someone who really is rabbit-savvy -- the vet we saw yesterday told me that his temp should have been of utmost concern. It's frustrating and awful to know that such a critical mistake was made, but again, lesson learned BIG TIME. I also wanted to share something I've learned about administering the cisapride, which is in pill form -- I've ben crushing the half a tablet dose with the back of a knife, mixing it with a couple drops (tiny drops) of water, and filling a syringe with it. I dipped the end of the syringe in apple sauce, just enough so it tastes like it, and he goes for it immediately. It can also be mixed with Critical Care, but since he's eating regularly, I didn't want to go down that path if I didn't have to. So far so good...
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jerseygirl  Australia Posts: 11325


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| 03/07/2010 08:42 AM |
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lol...well as you may have seen, Im in Australia so I'm often on when some of the late nighters in the northern hemi are on. Though it's now 3am here so I guess I'm the late nighter this time round. I was a little worried at the time when you first posted then didn't reply. It turns out you were returning to the vet - thankfully! |
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sophie*bun 
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| 03/07/2010 10:28 AM |
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jess & peter, So happy for you that your bunny is doing better, face twitching sleeps are the best ones I think P.S. I am not sure where you live, I am in Western Canada, and here they sell a hair remedy that you can give your bun as a preventative when they are shedding. Also, try papaya tablets or pineapple, they have lots of good enzymes that help break up the hair, you know just in case if this whole thing was because of excess hair? |
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jess&peter 
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| 03/07/2010 12:49 PM |
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That's a great suggestion -- I bought a bottle of papaya tablets yesterday when I was at the vet (they have a fantastic selection of reasonably priced supplies and toys -- lots of the same products as available in the store here). I'm going to make more of an effort with preventative care like brushing, papaya tablets, and sticking with low-impact treats (replacing baby carrots with timothy or veggie treats). I'm a first time rabbit owner, so the last four months have been all about learning and getting to know him. I'm also a worrier, so I think it may have helped that I had read a bit about GI stasis before it happened. : ) What's the name of the remedy you suggested? We had a good morning, and he's stretched out and napping now. |
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sophie*bun 
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| 03/07/2010 02:26 PM |
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I'm just like you, I worry about my bunny so much too, so you are not alone...lol we do it out of love. I am also a first time bunny owner, I've had Sophie for almost 4 years so some things you get a hang of as you go along. About the remedy: The one that my bun's vet recommends is Petromalt, I think it's also used for cats, but it's a great preventative aid. When they go through a shed you give them a nail size portion 2-3 times a week, and when they are not shedding you can give it to them once a week as a preventative (like when they groom themselves and swallow their hair). What also helps me is Sophie LOVES the vacuum, so every time I take it out to do some cleaning or to vacuum her bunny condo, I give her a good vacuum with a pet brush, it's hilarious she melts away underneath it. |
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jerseygirl  Australia Posts: 11325


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| 03/07/2010 05:34 PM |
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With petromalt just make sure bunny is really well hydrated before using it. It can coat the poop and make it impermeable to fluids so the can stay a hardened mass if like that before hand. This is a caution I've read in relation to petromalt and similar products. I think it can be used sparingly as a preventative if you rabbit is shedding and pooping normally, but when going into stasis be careful about using it then. Simethicone for gas relief might be another useful thing to have on hand. |
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