mocha200 
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| 02/22/2010 12:30 PM |
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Lulu is getting spayed on March 17 i am so happy i almost had to wait until the middle of April. any thing special to watch out for or any thing? and i was wondering why your supposed to wait until after you spay a bunny to bond them? is it because there hormones are high or is it because after you get them spayed you would have to re bond them? or is it something else? any ways i was just wondering.
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mellowzmom 
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| 02/22/2010 12:43 PM |
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Monkeybun  Hillsboro, Oregon
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| 02/22/2010 12:47 PM |
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Definitely wait til after the spay to bond |
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Petzy 
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| 02/22/2010 12:53 PM |
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yes, it is because of the hormones that you have to wait for one whole month after the spay before you can start bonding them. Right after the surgery the hormones will still be in her blood. Over time, the hormones disappear. |
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mocha200 
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| 02/22/2010 01:04 PM |
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ok i was just wondering. so can i even start with the stunt double or do you have to wait with that to? |
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mocha200 
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| 02/22/2010 02:25 PM |
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and i was also wondering how dangerous a spay is? like should i be scared she will die? oh by the way i was't going to try to bond i was just wondering what would happen. but is it ok that they are in the same room?
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Kokaneeandkahlua 
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| 02/22/2010 02:59 PM |
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For what to watch for in a spay/dangerous-> Ensure you get pain medications. Lots of vets say they don't need them-but they do. If your vet tries to send you home without pain medication put your foot down. They are entirely necessary for a quick and painless recovery and they are cheap and easy to give. Do Not leave the vet office without them. It's as dangerous as any operation, meaning there is some risk with the anestetic. If the rabbit is older its recommended to do blood work first. As long as your vet is experienced and you checked them out well, your bun should be fine. It's ok for them to be in the same room so long as you KNOW without a doubt that they will not get near each other; fighting can and will happen with an unbonded pair and they could breed if your other rabbit is a male. It takes less then 30 seconds for them to breed, and like cats they are induced ovulators (Which means they don't have a 'time of the month'-if they breed they will get pregnant). I personally wouldn't risk it-it's just too possible they could mate-they can even mate if only one gets loose (through cage bars) and they can fight if only one gets loose. I'd start on the stunt doubles. The other thing you can do-since they are likely shedding right now (mine are all blowing their coats) is brush them and put some loose fur from each other into opposite cages to get them used to the scent Anyways keep us posted on the spay and bonding  Her spay is booked for my anniversary  |
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mocha200 
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| 02/22/2010 05:45 PM |
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well i don't have to worry about mating because i got my other bun neutered last year i couldn't spay Lulu then because i didn't have enough
money. yes they are shedding and i have a brush but i always forget to use it i will try to remember to brush every from now on. how long do you have to leave the stunt double in before you can give it to the other? it was my great grandparents anniversary to but my geat gandpa died last year.
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Kokaneeandkahlua 
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mocha200 
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| 02/26/2010 12:18 PM |
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i removed the board between mocha's and Lulu's cage to see what happened and lulu started liking Mocha! she wasn't doing it gently but still, so i let her run around Mocha's cage and Mocha would follow her every were ( he was still in the cage) when she came over by him he would stick his head as far as it would go out of the cage so she could lick it, but she only licked it sometimes. then mocha started biting her when she just sat there right outside of the cage ( but i am still not sure he was biting her because she didn't seem to care or notice) so i thought that they were doing really well so i decided to let Mocha out to. he ran around my room and sniffed, and lulu was following him but i forgot to close mocha's cage and lulu went in there and mocha started humping her so i let him calm down and took lulu out of his cage but then mocha went in lulus cage and she humped him. i let them out because they have been in that little cage for days without being let out cuz my mom doesn't want them out of my room so they needed exercise. but i think that they are going to love being together cuz they did really good. no fighting. |
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mocha200 
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| 02/26/2010 02:18 PM |
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what do you guys think?
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KatnipCrzy 
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| 02/26/2010 07:40 PM |
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I think it is OK that they see each other- but you want to be careful that they do not have a negative experience with each other-as that will hinder future intro/bonding attempts- as they will remember.
When introducing bunnies they can either immediately want to get defense and possibly fight- or I have seen where they have practically ignored each other for over an hour and them started to get into a fight.
It all depends on the rabbits involved- so you can let them get used to the idea of each other and seeing each other thru the bars if they do not box or fight thru the openings- but I would wait until after spay recovery to bond and introduce together. I don't think there is enough time between now and the spay to have a concrete bond- plus hormones will still play a role. |
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mocha200 
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| 02/27/2010 05:44 AM |
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yeah Lulu was grooming mocha a little through the bars but then he did this weird biting thing on the side of lulu but she didn't seem to care. ever scene then he has sat with his front paws on the side of the cage to look over the board at lulu and i am not kidding he has done this almost non stop scene yesterday. i feel so bad for him because he is so social and loves every one of my cats, he just wants a friend. but Lulu she totally ignores him when she is in her cage. i keep on saying "mocha your wasting your time." he just wont give up.  |
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mocha200 
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| 02/28/2010 08:17 PM |
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when i go in for the check up before the spay is there anything i should ask them to look at or check? this will be her first checkup. |
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BB 
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| 03/02/2010 11:44 PM |
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Sorry for the late reply on this but two things:
1. Be careful about letting them interact between bars - watch carefully for aggression. Part of my bunny Rucy's lip had to be sewn back on after Bailey bit her through the xpen. Nasty injuries can happen this way.
2. As far as the check-up, normally they will feel the body for abnormalities, take a look at the eyes, and check the teeth (incisors and molars ---unless the bunny is nutty about it)
As far as pre-spay stuff and thing you may just want to ask your vet about, even if you fully trust, but just for your knowledge in this link from the House Rabbit Society - plus it also includes pre & post care.
http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/...-questions |
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mocha200 
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| 03/06/2010 11:36 AM |
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is it bad that they wont keep her over night? i mean they probably will if they have to. should i take poo with at all like do they like to check it for some reason? |
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Karla 
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| 03/06/2010 11:47 AM |
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I asked to have Molly spend the night at the vet's just to be sure somebody who knew what to do was watching her...I don't think it is necessary though, and if I remember correctly I think there was a practical reason for my decision as well, which I don't remember. In all honesty, I doubt that they were checking on her. Just make sure that she is kept warm. I have no idea about the poop. They took a blood test on Molly because I mentioned she drank a lot, so they wanted to make sure her kidney was fine before doing the surgery, but from what I can understand that is common procedure for US vets anyways. |
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KatnipCrzy 
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| 03/06/2010 12:10 PM |
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It really depends on the clinic if they keep the pet overnight or not- if surgery is done in the morning- the pets are usually ready to go home that afternoon. There are pros and cons to keeping them overnight. If they keep them overnight that is another enforced 12 hours (or more) of restricted activity and that helps with healing- bunnies will be more likely to chill and not be as active as they would be at home. But it is nice to have them at home to be able to watch them- and a loving bunny owner would do just that- and the pet would most likely be more relaxed at home.
Personally I would have my bunny not spend the night and come home- but I also work at a vet clinic and am experienced in post-op animal care, etc. But if I was not around to watch them or did not feel comfortable then I would rather the pet stay the night.
I only once have had to take a pet back that night after surgery- about 7 years ago my Golden Retriener that was found as a stray was neutered, I brought him home, we went grocery shopping, we came home- I let him out and he fell over in the yard. We rushed him in and did bloodwork- that showed nothing wrong- he was started on an IV, given Nutrical (high energy paste) and steroids (I think) and a couple of hours later he was fine and I took him back home. No idea why he "passed out". But he recovered with no ill effects- maybe his blood sugar got too low? we have the energy paste immediately before blood was drawn. |
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mocha200 
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| 03/06/2010 01:53 PM |
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i got mocha neutered in November and i had to take him back cuz he had ripped out his stitches. her appointment is at 7:30 am so it is in the morning so thats probably why. |
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Monkeybun  Hillsboro, Oregon
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| 03/06/2010 02:42 PM |
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My vet didn't keep Monkey over night. Her appointment was for 8 am, the first of the day. I dropped her off, and she was ready to come home around 4 pm. She was definitely happy to be home! There's no way I would have wanted her away overnight. She's my baby  |
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RabbitPam 
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| 03/06/2010 03:45 PM |
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My vet had Sammy overnight, if I'm remembering correctly, and we had an emergency in the family so she offered to let her stay another night if I couldn't get her. I was able to pick her up in the late afternoon of the second day. but my vet boards, so she had a set up already. |
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mocha200 
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| 03/15/2010 12:32 PM |
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her spay is comming up soon! i sure hope nothing goes wrong. |
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Beka27 
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| 03/16/2010 03:26 AM |
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Healing vibes for Lulu! Keep us posted on how she does tomorrow! |
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mocha200 
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| 03/16/2010 07:19 PM |
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one question before tomarrow.can i keep her in the same cage she is now or should i keep her in an xpen so i can see her better? |
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Monkeybun  Hillsboro, Oregon
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| 03/16/2010 08:51 PM |
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you can keep her in the cage, just make sure there's nothing to jump on, and nothing that can catch on her stitches. Litter box is fine to keep in the cage though I kept Monkey in the cage even though I had a pen so that she wouldn't run around much the first few days. Gotta keep em resting to heal up before they can run. |
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RabbitPam 
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| 03/17/2010 04:38 AM |
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Just want to say Good Luck today.  |
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jess&peter 
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| 03/17/2010 08:15 AM |
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Good luck today! |
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mocha200 
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| 03/17/2010 12:04 PM |
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they called and said every thing was fine and she is coming home at 3:00 pm! I can't wait. |
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Monkeybun  Hillsboro, Oregon
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| 03/17/2010 01:58 PM |
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Yay for Lulu!!!! |
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MirBear  Kitchener, Ont. Ca.
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| 03/17/2010 02:05 PM |
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yay!!! i cant wait untill i have enough money to get mine done.. then again ill need alot more $$ then you *sigh* why did twix have to turn out to be a girl??? |
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