Petzy 
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| 02/11/2010 01:55 PM |
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That would be great, mocha. Really anything you can use for rabbit litter that is safe, soak it to see how much water it will hold and post here.
I tested some litter.
I used 2 cups of lukewarm water and 2 cups of cardboardstrips pressed into the measuring cup tightly.

I added the water. So it was 1 part cardboard strips to 1 part of water

I let it sit for 5 minutes and then poured off any excess water. I collected 1/2 cup of excess which means my 2 cups of cardboard strips bound up 1 1/2 cups of water, that's 75% their own volume.

I did the same procedure with newspaper shreds the same size as my cardboard strips.

I had lots of excess water, the newsprint held less than half its own volume in water.

I tried kiln--dried pine shavings I used to use under my grated litter cage. At first they seemed to hold their own volume in water but after a while it trickled through and pooled at the bottom. I give this litter a Fail.

the cardboard strips got drier the longer they sat

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Sarita 
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| 02/11/2010 02:19 PM |
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Interesting. I do notice with my pelleted pine that it eventually dries once it's been peed on. Of course it also turns to sawdust. |
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mrmac  San Diego, CA
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| 02/11/2010 02:24 PM |
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I tested the Carefresh. I used one cup of carefresh, and one cup of warm water. I let it sit for 5 minutes.

Soaking...

After drained and squeezed, drying out...

I drained off the water and got about a half of a cup, so it absorbed 50%. After this I squeezed the bedding to see how much I could get out. It gave up about another 1/4 cup. The carefresh dried out very well though, is almost just like when I pulled it out of the bag. The carefresh has always been good for odor. I like to mix up the litter boxes, making sure as much of the bedding gets used before I change it. It lasts my trio quite a while.
So far the cardboard is still the one to beat!!! |
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Sarita 
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Petzy 
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| 02/11/2010 03:14 PM |
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Oh my. The pelleted pine really absorbs the water. Looks like it could have taken in another 2 cups. It is the small particle size of pressed saw dust that is so absorbent. I say Lone Star Litter is in the lead... |
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Sarita 
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| 02/11/2010 03:23 PM |
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Yes, it absorbed all of the water. But boy it sure swells up. |
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Petzy 
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| 02/11/2010 05:30 PM |
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The pelleted litters are definitely superior to cardboard strips. I doubt anyone will want to waste 2 cups of Yesterday's News for this thread but I imagine the paper pulp pellets would have more absorbency than my strips also. I will stick with the cardboard though, it is cozy and warm for my rabbits and fills a large litter tray economically. |
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Petzy 
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| 02/11/2010 05:55 PM |
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OK, Carrot Lane!! Thanks! That will complete this 'study'
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iwannabunny 
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| 02/11/2010 06:05 PM |
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would anyone be willing to test sun seed fresh world bedding? I don't have a bunny or I would..... |
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Petzy 
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| 02/11/2010 06:14 PM |
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I just looked up he Sun Seed bedding because I didn't know about it. It is a pelleted paper litter so similar to Yesterday's News. However, it says on the bag that it has baking soda added for odor control and so I would recommend Yesterday's News over the Sun Seed one, just in case a rabbit decides to eat a few pieces. Especially young rabbits eat litter material sometimes. |
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iwannabunny 
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| 02/11/2010 06:24 PM |
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oh okay  |
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Petzy 
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Elrohwen 
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| 02/12/2010 09:43 AM |
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Petzy, I just remembered a story when you mentioned bunnies nibbling on litter. When I went home to my parents' house for Christmas, I let my dad feed Otto breakfast since he woke up before I did. One morning I came down and my dad said "Otto's not really eating this morning. He just pushed all of his pellets out of his bowl." I look in the pen and Otto has a bowl full of Yesterday's News (with a good portion thrown all over the floor). LOL I told my dad no wonder he wasn't eating it - he fed litter for breakfast! At least Otto is able to tell them apart ;-) |
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Petzy 
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| 02/12/2010 09:55 AM |
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Poor Otto; what a lousy xmas meal! --even some rodenticides are the same shape of pellets. I wish they weren't.
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Petzy 
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| 02/12/2010 11:06 AM |
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I noticed some companies specify the weight, not the volume, of liquid their litter will absorb as compared to its own weight. In terms of that I can say the cardboard leads. Wood pellets are very heavy. |
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Sarita 
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| 02/12/2010 11:14 AM |
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Yes, wood pellets are very heavy especially when peed upon :~) |
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Elrohwen 
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| 02/12/2010 11:36 AM |
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Sarita, I swear my light little litter box is five times heavier when it's time to change it. Wood pellets are definitely heavy! |
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TARM  VA
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| 02/12/2010 11:46 AM |
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Do you live near a horse/livestock supply store? Huge bags of cardboard where I live are only, like, $8. The squares are way bigger than what your shredder can do so my concern would be that my bunnies wouldn't find it comfortable enough to use it. But, a thin layer of carefresh on top of the cardboard works well at the rescue. We only tried it once but there was a definite increase in absorbancy with the cardboard bedding added in. |
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Petzy 
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| 02/12/2010 01:33 PM |
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TARM, thanks for adding to my discussion here. Did your rescue discontinue using the cardboard litter because it was too coarse? The livestock supply store here does not carry it. When I changed my rabbits' litter today Neigey binkied through the strips. This is major bunny approval.
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mocha200 
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| 02/12/2010 07:34 PM |
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i tried Purina yesterdays news and a tiny bit of water came out. i tried feline pine and no water cam out. |
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BB 
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| 02/12/2010 10:05 PM |
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What a great thread!! I am currently out of yesterday's news, but I will be getting more this weekend and will try it and post as well. I used to get aspen supreme but I can't find it anymore in the stores. Wood pellets definitely soak up the urine, but they do swell and Jack ends up peeing over the edge of the box because of it. |
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rosalie68  Iowa, USA
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| 02/13/2010 12:37 PM |
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ok, i tested yesterdays news. i used 1 cup of litter and 1 cup of water. after it soaked up, i was able to pour out 1/4 cup of water. if i squeezed the litter i could probably have gotten out more. i noticed that this litter has pieces of plastic and little bits of tinfoil things in it. not good. then i tested petco brand paper litter. its mixed with pellets and crumbled paper, sort of like carefresh and yesterdays news mixed together. well, i got 1/3 cup back out of that one. i also want to add that it's not good at all for odor control. if u need anymore experiments done with either of these 2 litters i have enough for it. i am not going to use them. |
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Petzy 
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mocha200 
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| 02/13/2010 05:14 PM |
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Petzy do you have a lot of cardboard? were do you get all of it? |
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Petzy 
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| 02/13/2010 05:18 PM |
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I have some that I kept for bunny toy boxes and for other purposes, like when we change the oil on the car etc. So it's just boxes from packaging I collected. I will run out now soon b/c of this litter. I asked other ppl to collect for me and I will go get some from a store too. You could check with a local business in your town to ask if you can have some of their cardboard that goes for recycling. It has to be the brown plain stuff, though, no gloss on it. |
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BB 
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| 02/14/2010 01:35 AM |
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So I just got some yesterday's news AND I found some Aspen Supreme finally (even more expensive now though so I will end up mixing) plus I still have my Feline pine pellets so I'll test all three each and then do a mix of YN and Aspen (which is how I will end up using it myself). I'll try to get that done tomorrow and post about it.
These last few days though that I've been using Feline Pine, though it soaks up the urine, it does not do a good job with odor to me. It could be that the more that it soaks in the urine, it just makes the room smell more sawdusty and that's what I am associating with urine. I"m just not as fond of having the room smell like sawdust either though. So much so, I got the fan going to get some fresh air in from the windows. |
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RabbitPam 
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| 02/14/2010 08:24 AM |
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I was having trouble getting Aspen Supreme and had to try aspen shavings. She went through those so fast that I just combined the end of the Aspen Supreme with the shavings to soak up more and last longer. She had some objection and was tossing the aspen pellets out, so the switch to the shavings pleased her. But I saw YN again this weekend, and would love to use it if it masks the odor, in case there's a problem with the manufacturers at Aspen Supreme. I don't want to go back to the Pine either, BB. It's your fault for turning me on to Aspen.  |
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Karla 
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| 02/15/2010 10:51 AM |
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So here is the result from my conifer wood pellets - of course, I did not manage to take any pictures before or during. But I took one US Cup water and added 1 US Cup pellets and then after 15-20 seconds, there was no water left and it looked like this:

Since I failed to take any picture before adding the water and I for some reason have taken the picture with the Litres showing although using US Cups, I should explain that in Cups it has swollen to the size of 3 3/4 cups.
Sorry, guys, I am just completely sleep deprived lately and cannot focus. Let me know if you want me to re-do the test. |
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Elrohwen 
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| 02/15/2010 12:30 PM |
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Posted By BinkyBunny on 02/14/2010 01:35 AM
So I just got some yesterday's news AND I found some Aspen Supreme finally (even more expensive now though so I will end up mixing) plus I still have my Feline pine pellets so I'll test all three each and then do a mix of YN and Aspen (which is how I will end up using it myself). I'll try to get that done tomorrow and post about it.
These last few days though that I've been using Feline Pine, though it soaks up the urine, it does not do a good job with odor to me. It could be that the more that it soaks in the urine, it just makes the room smell more sawdusty and that's what I am associating with urine. I"m just not as fond of having the room smell like sawdust either though. So much so, I got the fan going to get some fresh air in from the windows.
I noticed this same thing when I switched to wood stove pellets. I can't really smell it unless I'm right next to his cage, so I ignore it, but I wish it controlled odor as well as YN did. Aspen Supreme sounds awesome, but I've never seen it around. I'll have to look. Though I think I'm going to take the trade off of more smell but dirt cheap litter prices with the wood stove pellets. |
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