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Forum THE LOUNGE what religons/beliefs are represented here?

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    • katie, max & penny
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        Loaded question, I know. I shall explain:

        I have to do a project for my health class and learn the main beliefs about the major world religions/beliefs. I was raised in a very strict Christian household, so I got that covered. And Bunnytowne helped me with Islam (thanks!), but I was wondering what else is represented on BB? Partly because I am curious, but also because I would love to ask you some questions if you don’t feel comfortable with it, that’s totally ok too! I want to learn, not debate

         

        And yes, I know its a ridiculous assignment for a health class


      • Barbie
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          well… I’m Christian too so I’m probably no help, but good luck with your assignment!


        • Monkeybun
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            I have no chosen religion, but I find myself fascinated by all the different ones out there. i have friends of many different religious backgrounds, from Christian to Buddhist to Shinto to Islam, and most of them get tired of me askignt hem endless questions about it all


          • Adalaide
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              I’m Mormon, but that may not help you since (despite all the morons in existance who clain otherwise) we ARE christian. Although we are distinctly set apart as well. I’d be happy to share any information I can with you if you’re interested.


            • katie, max & penny
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                for sure!! i’d love to hear, adalaide you can PM me if you want or email me (katie_hedger at baylor dot edu). thanks!!


              • angelicvampyre
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                  I am non religious or what is commonly know as a PTB believer (believer in The Powers That Be) basically we do not worship a common god but believe this is something driving us in different directions.


                • feeona
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                    i attend the free reformed church which is christian aswell ! calvinist is another way to describe the christian denomination


                  • kralspace
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                      I’m Methodist, Katie. Which you know from attending Baylor can put you in the minority here in Waco…..lol (big Baptist college) When I was hired at my current company, my boss advised me not to mention that fact because they tended to only hire baptists. aaahhh the fun of watching people trying to stuff people into little pigeon holes 😉


                    • skibunny8503
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                        I’m a follower of…..the cosmic bunny (http://www.bunnychurch.com/  I’m sorry I just had to!  I guess I’m christian but I’m non practicing.  I believe there is something out there.


                      • Desma
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                          In 300AD men made the “institution” of what we relate to today as “the church”. What the apostles preached and Jesus mannifested was that the body of Christ is “relationtional”, not institutional. I have never made a covenant with any religeon (signing membership paper) as I understand according to the word of God that only Jesus Christ can baptise and make a person a member of His body. We like to fellowship with like minded believers who understand that the greatest among the body of Christ is the servants. What we have today in organized worldly religeon is a hierarchy of elite men who are ordained by men and not by God. God’s true body is scattered throughout all different religeons and they are presently, with the help of our failing economy “come out of her my people”. Jesus said, “call no man Father except for your heavenly Father and call no man teacher for you are all bretheran in him. Our failing economy will be used by God to remove those hirelings (men who run a church for a paycheck) In these last days the bible says that there would be many false prophets that start new religeons and have teachers who tell people who have itching ears, what they want to hear instead of teaching the principals of the doctrine of Jesus Christ which is repentance from dead works, faith towards God, doctrine of baptisms, laying on of hands, ressrection of the dead and eternal judgement” (Hebrews)
                          The church that Jesus Christ died for is not the institutions that we see portrayed by fancy useless cathedrals and buildings. What we have today is a mixture of Judsim and pagan idolatry that was started in 300AD. The good news is that he does have His people and the Lord knows them that are His and let every man that names the name of Jesus Christ, depart from iniquity. If we are ashamed of Jesus and of the words that he speaks, God will be ashamed of us when he comes in his kingdom with his holy angels with power and great glory. So, that is one reason why I do not care about being “politically correct” and do not care what man thinks of me. It is way more important that we care about what God thinks of us and on that day he returns, I want him to say to me, “I know you”. Jesus said that not everybody that says, “Lord, Lord” will enter into the kingdom of God. They will say, “Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, didn’t we cast our devils and didn’t we do many wonderful works?” Jesus will turn to them and say, “depart from me you workers of iniquity for I do not know you”. It does not matter what doctrines and what religeons that man creates and believes. All that will county on the day of his coming is that Jesus is our coverning and that he is the son of God and he knows them that are his. The fear of the Lord is to depart from evil. All of us are sinners and God is no respector of persons. When you truly believe what he wants you to believe, you will not be popular among men. All those who live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. If men think and speak well of us, well, we are most probably not living for Him because men will speak all matter of evil and tell lies about you, just as they did Jesus. We will suffer the same persecution that Jesus went through if our lives are pleasing to him. Being a member of a church will not guarantee the salvation of our souls and it is not works of righteousness which we have done by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Good works do not get us to heaven, neither is the self deception that we tell ourselves that “I am a good person, going about and being ignorant and not submitting ourselves to the righteousness of Christ. None of us will be without excuse on the day of judgement. I had to recognize that without Jesus, I am lost and I need forgiveness of sins and that is an everyday examination, repentance from dead works”. I am no better than anybody else because Jesus is my righteousness and I am justified by faith, not of works, lest any man should boast. Saying a sinner’s prayer after another person does not work either. There is no such thing in the bible, “a sinners’ prayer” that is. With all the religeon in the world, we are entering into the darkest period of man’s history. Jesus is going to send his angel with the sound of a trumpet to gather together his elect from the four winds, from the four corners of the earth. He will be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire, take vengeance on them who know not God and obey not the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
                          Here is a fantastic link that will help you with History on how King James got his translators to mistranslate pieces of the bible to make a spiritual hierarchy etc.

                          http://awildernessvoice.com/GEC.html


                        • bunnytowne
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                            Desma that is interesting  I will check out that link.    That is what started me on my religious search.   Finding  out about 300 AD and pagan added into xtianity. 

                            Anyways  very interesting


                          • Karla
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                              I am an atheist – that’s almost a religion in itself


                            • babybunsmum
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                                wow… cool assignment katie! its been so long since my highschool world religions class. i find that i’m more interested in learning now that i’m a bit older (pushing 40).

                                i was raised in a roman catholic family… went to catholic school… went to church every sunday with the family… until in my late teens when my part time weekend job kept me away. i haven’t been to church regularily since then by personal choice. in my teens / early twenties it seemed that going to church was something i did to please my family which i didn’t think should be the point.

                                since then i’ve learned that i really value my upbringing – faith gave my grandparents enormous strength to escape from east german camps after ww2 and restart with nothing in canada, faith gave my dad a sense of community when he immigrated here from germany as a young man and faith gave me a larger sense of community and support growing up.

                                for me now, looking more specifically at the teachings, i find that catholicism is not a perfect fit. there are areas that i do not agree with even though i still hold the traditions close to my heart. i read a quote from the dalai lama that was something like this (paraphrasing… excuse me if i mess it up a bit): “i think there should be as many different religions as there are people in the world.” i think this is pretty cool. mainly because right now i think religions are a way to answer the unanswered questions of the universe. and whatever you turn to to find those answers, as long as you practise respectfulness to others who may not hold your same ‘creator’ beliefs and practise respectfulness to yourself then it’s all good.

                                and that’s my 2 cents


                              • Desma
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                                  That whole wilderness site is filled with pure unadulterated truth and I know them men who made it and they are very much into the translations and very educated but so very humble and you can ask for any of their books for free because they do not believe in making merchandise from the word of God. A true man of God will point you to Jesus, not to follow them or fulfill their agenda. What we have today is a great move of God that is doing the final work of separation as in the parables, Jesus taught about the world being a great field and the wheat and the tares grow together until the end when he will send his angels to gather the tares into bundles (groups) to be burned, then, the wheat gathered into the barn. He said that he did not come to bring peace, but, a sword and a man’s enemies will be of his own household, mother will be against daughter, father against son, daughter in law against mother in law and so on. There is such a great separation going on that there will be no grey areas any longer and it will be very obvious of whose side we are on. Of course, his people are always killed and persecuted and religeon leaders are the ones who carry out the genocide. Religeon means “to bind” which is opposite of what Jesus taught, “you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free”. I spend lots of hours studying and seeking and if you ask God for a loaf of bread, he is not going to hand you a rock. I was raised to be very religeous and I was not actually genuinely born again until I was 24 years old! I seen that I could not stand on the day of judgement and try to tell the Lord that I was raised “Lutheran” as an excuse for my disobedience. God is not a respector of persons and he is nigh unto all who call upon him with a pure heart.
                                  Church history is very interesting. Did you know that the 7th day Adventists and the Jehovah’s Witnesses broke off fromr the same man who started a denomination. I cannot remember right now which one, but it will pop back into my head later on I suppose. Also, the men who are called the “church Fathers” did not cannonize the epistle of Barnabus and they should have. The epistle of Barnabus is the word of God and it explains that God’s building is his people, his true church and big buildings are for pagan idol worshippers. The church fathers liked to build their cathedrals for their own exualtation so that is most probaby why they did not cannonize it. Also, the book of Enoch was used and cherished by the first church until 300 ad when the church fathers decided to leave that one out too because it goes into too much detail about the fallen angels and since all huge major religeons are headed by fallen angels, they did not want that exposed. They found the book of Isaiah and the book of Enoch in 1947 and they are called the “dead sea scrolls”.
                                  After years and years of study, the closer I get to Jesus I realize that I know nothing if you can understand what I am trying to express. I have had to pray for God to make my heart and mind willing to be humble enough to be able to reject any teachings or doctrines that I have believed in that were wrongly taught to me. I have had to lay down some teachings in this past ten years that I believed for such a long time. None of us know everything anyhow. Some of the teachings and doctrines I have rejected as the Lord revealed to me was unscripturally twisted, has at times made me not so popular person in religeous circles. (We know in part and we prosphecy in part. Now when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away with. When I was a child, I spake as a child but when I became an adult, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass darkly, but when we see him face to face: now I know in part)1 Cor 13:10
                                  Also, men divided the bible into chapters and verses. If you read a Jewish bible, there are no chapters and verses.


                                • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                    Well I fancy myself a budhist if anything, because their beliefs and values coincide with mine for the most part.

                                    My mom was baptist united and my dad is greek othodox-not sure what you want to know for your assignment-but ask away about the Greek Orthodox That may be interesting


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                                      I don’t know if I believe in anything in particular. I like faeries(read a brilliant book about them once), and Greek mythology. I’m more apt to believe in faeries though, in the sense that they are the essence of a plant. Idk. I probably sound crazy. lol. When I was younger I read a lot about psychic stuff, witchcraft, Greek mythology, ect. And not any of that dark, evil witchcraft stuff that people think of when they hear the word. I even read about Satanism stuff that I think just took the word because what they were actually believing was not at all related to the Christian view on Satan. It was more like Satan was Mother Earth. Yeah, try to wrap that around your head if you were raised Catholic (I was, but I don’t remember much as we stopped when I was 7 or 8). Anyways, the stuff I read about was mostly surrounding meditation and finding your element(s) and then working with those elements to better your life and those around you. Some of the people that I talked with were still Christian, they just believed in finding their own elements. They kept their ‘witchcraft’ to themselves though. So in essence I’m a Pagan (not Wiccan) when I actually have time to think about religion as my ideas on higher powers tend to predate Christianity. I know that Pagan is kind of broad to describe it, but my views are kind of broad. I also know that it doesn’t count as a major world religion so I guess I’m out.


                                    • katie, max & penny
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                                        this is so interesting guys i will definitely be PMing some of you. and checking out those links.

                                        the religions that i’m researching are christianity, islam, buddhism, hinduism, pagan/nature centered, mormonism, and some of the smaller sects like shintoism and such things. basically i need to report on their core beliefs about god/s, humanity and their relationship, prayer, etc. if anyone or anybun would like a copy of my findings, i would be glad to shoot one your way!


                                      • katie, max & penny
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                                          ah i hit submit too soon- will a FL delete that first one?


                                        • BunnyLiz
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                                            Im Roman Catholic. All Catholic schools, high school, church on Sunday. My faith does surprisingly mean a lot to me.


                                          • FluffyBunny
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                                              Agnostic but spiritual.
                                              In my opinion, there’s not much to ask me about though.

                                              I would be interested to hear some of what you find out, BTW.


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                                                Posted By katie.hedger on 11/10/2009 04:25 PM
                                                this is so interesting guys i will definitely be PMing some of you. and checking out those links.

                                                the religions that i’m researching are christianity, islam, buddhism, hinduism, pagan/nature centered, mormonism, and some of the smaller sects like shintoism and such things. basically i need to report on their core beliefs about god/s, humanity and their relationship, prayer, etc. if anyone or anybun would like a copy of my findings, i would be glad to shoot one your way!

                                                 

                                                One of the things I’d like to point out is that christianity isn’t a religion on it’s own. There are many different religions that fall into the classification of christianity but if you are lumping all of them into a whole, then “mormonisn” falls into that category. Just choosing 3 or 4 different religions that are christian you’ll find a wide range of differing and conflicting beliefs.


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                                                   An atheist and evolutionist. After studying the ideas behind the theory of evolution I find I can draw conclusions about the origins of everything on the planet that make a good deal of sense. (Don’t get me wrong, not saying I know where they all come from but rather that within the guidelines of evolutionary theory it’s very possible to make good educated guesses ) So, in short, I believe we are purely a result of the forces of nature doing what they do best.


                                                • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                                                    An atheist and evolutionist

                                                    LOL I forgot evolution is up again being digged on!! I definitely believe in evolution….that’s another can of worms of course-but YES I’m big on that!


                                                  • Lara
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                                                      I was raised Anglican, and consider myself Christian, but I’m not so much a fan of organized religion. I have certain beliefs that would not be accepted in the Christian church, such as the idea that the bible is not infallable. I also believe that all religions are really honouring the same God, even though it may be a different face of God. I also believe in both evolution and intelligent design.

                                                      My boyfriend is Hindu, which is a very interesting religion… did you know that the first carnation of Vishnu was a fish?? Neat, hey?

                                                      I’d also be interested to hear what you find…


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                                                        Lara you story is just like mine, one of the reasons I became a PTBer is because I have “issues” with organise religion but I did feel that there was something bigger then us out there, It could be God it could be Destiny it could be alot of things but I know it’s there. I am also an evolution believer but at the same time I wonder what made frong X breed with Frong Y to have offspring that had a change in their gentic code to create a new species of frog that slowey became a rabbit (ok maybe not a rabbit but you get the idea)


                                                      • katie, max & penny
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                                                          sorry adalaide thats my fundamentalist background speaking.

                                                          lara, i think you hit on something i’ve come to see over this study.


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                                                            I consider myself ethnically Catholic because both sides of my family were born and raised to the religion. However, my parents did not have me baptized, did not take me to church, and I’m totally secular now (though I did go to Catholic high school for the academics, which was interesting). I’ve only really heard of Jews considering themselves to be a religion ‘ethnically’ rather than spiritually, but I think there are a lot of things that go along with being raised by Catholic familes even if you aren’t really Catholic spiritually. If I had to give a title to what I am now, I would say agnostic.

                                                            ETA: I’ve always been fascinated by religions and am glad I got an opportunity to learn a ton about Catholicism and the Bible (I’m quite good at religious trivia questions ). I’ve also taken a few classes on Eastern religions which I think are amazing.


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                                                              If you are doing a paper on Buddism and other religeon besides Christianity, the “world view” of Christianity is not what Jesus Christ ordained and taught. Here is a demonstrative explaination of what happened in 300 AD……….

                                                              “We need a new plan!” Satan cried, fire darting from his flashing eyes. “Two hundred years we’ve waged this war, only to be worse off than before. What does the problem seem to be? We smite one, they rise up three? We must tailor-make a plan suited to the weakness of man.”

                                                              “Ah yes! If I can’t destroy it I will pervert it! I will seduce this family God loves so dear!” Satan scoffed, while grasping his hands in disdain as if he were crushing them in his very palms. “I will plan their compromise. Remember Samson. The battle is as good as won!”

                                                              “I will create a counterfeit, a Church to my own liking. We will appeal to man’s ambition, his perverted desire to rule. Diotrephes, if you please, had it right after all. I will offer them kingdoms, and entice them with riches; they will usurp the very throne of Christ himself. And all this will be done in the name of God and righteousness. I love it!” Satan shouted, as the hideous groans and sneers of the hordes of hell reverberated through the abyss.

                                                              “‘The greatest among you shall be a servant.’ Ha! I’ll make these servants into kings and their servanthood into tyranny. And for my masterstroke, these pagan temples that I have built will be their new home. I see it all so clearly now! They will sit in rows, silent, yes, silent at last. Those who turned my world upside-down will sit silently, in rows, entertained. How I have wished it!

                                                              “Ah, what greater pain could I inflict upon the creator, than for him to see his children wrapped in chains, worshiping in my temples, surrounded by my idols and led by my pontiff kings.”

                                                              “‘You shall have no other gods before me.’ Ha!” Satan scoffed. “We will see about that! Greater deceptions than these shall I weave. I’ll surround them with the trappings of idolatry and then when they are worshiping, in part they’ll worship me!”


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                                                                I’m a Roman Catholic- I think there are a lot of rumors and misunderstandings about Catholics though as far as what we believe.


                                                              • DeVaStAt0r
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                                                                  I’m not really into Organized religion, so many wars and politics are all started with people thinking their religion is the best. My family is irish mom’s family is Roman Catholic while my dad’s is protestant. When i was little we went to a Anglician church until my brother and I were old enough that our parents let it be our decision. We both voted Nay.

                                                                  I Do believe there is a need for spirituality but it should be more indivudal, no two people are the same so why should their religion?

                                                                  I guess that places me in the “Powers that be” population.

                                                                  I love researching though, wiccan and Christo-Pagan are some of the most instresting along with the druids and anything with a semi-magical vibe are really interesting to read about.

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