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User is Offline laura lindauer
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8/07/2006 12:46 PM
My bunny is getting more comfortable in her environment but now her sh*ts are long, wet, and soft? It looks like a string of regular bunny sh*ts crammed into one long sh*ts? Please help so Booey and I can get back to doing what we do best, BINKYS!!!!

User is Offline Elena Niznik
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8/07/2006 1:47 PM

Hi laura do these poo's that you are describing look similar to tiny brown bunched up grapes? If so then these are called cecal pellets and are perfectly normal. Your rabbit as with all rabbits will eat these dropping to reabsorb fiber then pass them out as individual more fibrous (dry) droppings that look totally different. Have a look at this link http://www.rabbit.org/chapters/san-... this should answer your questions. However if this doesnt help i recommend a check up at the vet, take along a stool sample (both fecal and cecal) as odd stools may represent an upset with the bacteria in your bunnies tum. ( dnt be embarrassed about doing this im sure the vet has seen worse) Hope that helps?

 

Also just as a point of interest how many cecal pellets are normal? I.E how many should a rabbit produce a day?


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8/09/2006 11:29 PM
Posted By tallullu on 08/07/2006 3:47 PM

Also just as a point of interest how many cecal pellets are normal? I.E how many should a rabbit produce a day?

Do you mean cecal pellets, or fecal pellets?   With Cecal pellets, it's just one glob a day. Usually you can't see it, because like you said, rabbits will eat them. The time of day varies with  diet and time of being fed.  Usually am, or afternoon or late night.

If you mean fecal pellets, I remember I was asked that question years ago, and it took me forever to find the the facts, and I never saved the info.    But IF my memory serves me right, it was over 100 per day.   But now, I want to find out if that is true or not, so off I go - A scavenger hunt for poo facts!

I'll keep you updated as I know you won't be able to sleep at night until you know how many fecal pellets a rabbit poos per day.  I mean, who could?


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8/09/2006 11:53 PM
Posted By laura on 08/07/2006 2:46 PM
My bunny is getting more comfortable in her environment but now her sh*ts are long, wet, and soft? It looks like a string of regular bunny sh*ts crammed into one long sh*ts? Please help so Booey and I can get back to doing what we do best, BINKYS!!!!

Tallullu was absolutely right on with great advice.

Sometimes bunnies can also have more cecals than they can consume if they have had something rich in their diet.  Sometimes this can happen if he got a hold of something like crackers or he got too many treats or if the diet is imbalanced.  If it continues then that is why you would need to follow Tallullu's suggestion and bring it in because not only should they be able to tell if their is a bacteria, but they should also be able to tell if there is an overgrowth of yeast has to do with a diet imbalance (some of which has nothing to do with a poor diet, but sometimes bunnies are sensitive to even certain healthy things)

What makes me think something is wrong is your last sentence - "get back to doing what we do best, Binkys!"    So are these stools accompanied by abnormal behavior, is he lethargic or not acting himself?

If the stools are larger, round, wet and soft all the time, then again, he could have something like coccidia which should be treated by a vet.

Keep us updated!


User is Offline Elena Niznik
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8/10/2006 7:05 AM
Hehe thanks for the poop facts binky. You have worried me a little though everynight between 9 and 10 Boo does one big massive soft pooh and only eats half of it. Is this normal? He has a cardboard box which he goes in and does it in there he never does it in his litter box. Should he be eating all of it? Also it is rather on the large side he is only a small bunny ( i think he is a cross between a dutch dwarf and a netherland dwarf but the shelter from where he came wasnt 100%sure) I'm going to speak to my flatmate to make sure he hasnt been sneeking him any extra raisins or greens because he is a great begger.

User is Offline Faye Perry
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8/11/2006 5:57 AM

I remember with my previous bunny Missy, she used to sit nicely in the lounge, then she would get this sheepish look on her face, her head would go down and she would come up munching on these softer poo's... the reason i knew they were the softer ones is because every now and again she would come up with a mouth full and then let half fall out of her mouth onto the carpet!!!! we always laughed as it looked like SHE was screwing her nose up at HER poo!! imagine my face when I had to clear it up!!  9 times out of 10 they did NOT smell nice (can't imagine what they taste like)

 


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8/11/2006 12:30 PM
Posted By tallullu on 08/10/2006 9:05 AM
 Should he be eating all of it? Also it is rather on the large side he is only a small bunny

They should be able to eat it all.  Most of the time, you should rarely see the cecals.  Sometimes bunnies leave them behind or occasionally they'll get them stuck on their bum, but usually that is only if they are overweight or have a spine disorder, or some other reason that prevents them from cleaning themselves properly.

If a bunny is producing large clumps that they don't completely finish or areproducing mush that is even more messy, then that usually means there is something in their diet that is too rich. It could be the type of pellet, or too many pellets, or too many treats.  (or all of the above.)

Their digestive systems are really developed for times when their species had to struggle for food.  It is extremely efficient for handling lean times and getting the most nutrients out of the least amount of food.  They have that whole recycling system which results in the cecal pellets.    

 But now, with food readily available to them, with more than enough nutrients the first time through, their recycling system can be easily be overloaded.  Unlimited hay, a ,low fat, low calorie, high fiber pellet (min 18%) only made from hay (no corn, nuts etc), dark leafy high fiber greens like parsley, and limited treats are really key to keeping their kind of digestive system balanced.


User is Offline Elena Niznik
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8/11/2006 1:37 PM
I found out the route to Boo's cecal over production. Turns out my flatmate has been sneaking him raisins giving him 2 a day!!!!!!!!!!!! So he has been sternly warned and it will be a while before boo gets a treat just till his system settles. My flatmate thought he was being kind and got upset thinking that he had harmed Boo. But its ok now atleast we know the problem and how to fix it. I told My flatmate that Boo will be just as happy with some fresh hay or a pat on the head.

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Posted By tallullu on 08/11/2006 3:37 PM
Turns out my flatmate has been sneaking him raisins giving him 2 a day!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I am so glad you found the cuprit, but I must admit, how endearing it is to picture your flatmate wanting to give your bunny a treat.  CUTE!

I'm glad you laid down the law. 


User is Offline ea hurse
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8/14/2006 6:38 AM
Lollo had a change in poos a couple of days ago- same thing, and done on my carpet, little tinker.....they too stank. i think this is because i used raisins to bribe him into his carrier so i then cut back on all treats and veg, and he now seems better. he does however do at least one big soft poo a day but it is difficult to determine what it looks like as he promptly sits or lies on it. i think its some kind of ritual because once he's chilled out on it he then eats it. eeewwww! i have a question - do bunnies fart? i'm sure he let a few slip last night when i was trying to enjoy a nice glass of wine. i couldnt see any poo. around the time of the smells he sort of crashed out and went to sleep, i was worried he had wind or something (he seemed happy enough and is absolutely fine otherwise)..... the joys of being a bunny-mummy, no wonder peple think we're all barmy!

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8/15/2006 8:46 PM

That's funny that you ask that question, because about six months ago, I was on an online chat with a bunch of people from the House Rabbit Society, and  we all agreed that bunnies fart.  But, I guess I'd have to check with a vet to get an official answer.   I'll ask next time I'm there.

However, my guess right now would also be that yes they do because bunnies that suffer from a painful and serious bout of gas, are often given simethicone which helps break it up making it easier to pass.  So to "pass" it...well...what else could that mean? 

I also have a stinky bunny who, if isn't passing gas, then my husband isn't admitting everything.

Bunnies can also be stinky when they are eating their cecal pellets.  Smelly!


User is Offline Faye Perry
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8/16/2006 5:34 AM
Ha ha ha ha the thought of bunnies trumping!  thats so funny - I bet my couple of stinkers do it!!  Mable loves rolling on her soft poo's aswell!  But she doesn't always eat them after, sometimes she just leaves them squashed onto where ever she's been lying (normally her cage) and i have to scrape them up.  She tends to 'log' more than Booboo so we now call her 'Log Queen'

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Posted By bunnybabe on 08/16/2006 7:34 AM
she doesn't always eat them after, sometimes she just leaves them squashed onto where ever she's been lying (normally her cage) and i have to scrape them up. 


If she leaves the stinkypoos often, she could be having a digestive issue. (For some reason, lop breeds can suffer from more digestive issues) How often does this happen? Per week?  
By the way.. I love your new Avatar - uh...it is new right?  Otherwise, I have been asleep.

User is Offline Faye Perry
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8/17/2006 11:46 PM

It doesn't happen that often now (especially since we had to seperate them for some reason) it was more often when she was younger, but I'm afraid the name stuck!  She does tend to leave softer smelly poo's when she's had fresh veggies sometimes, but not all the time.  I think I may have an 'portion issue' (pasta is a real issue with my husband he either gets far too much or not enough!)

Booboo seems to be able to eat more fresh stuff than Mable, is this normal? Also Booboo has started to place her fresh stuff in her water bowl....when my husband moved it out, she went right back and put it in again!!  whats all that about?

Yes Avatar is new, that picture was taken before the scrapping..but thats a whole different thread!


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Posted By bunnybabe on 08/18/2006 1:46 AM

Booboo seems to be able to eat more fresh stuff than Mable, is this normal? Also Booboo has started to place her fresh stuff in her water bowl....when my husband moved it out, she went right back and put it in again!!  whats all that about?


When you say Booboo is able to eat more, you mean she eats more of it, or her system can handle it - she doesn't get poopybutt?     

All of my rabbits have different preferences and sensitivities.   Bailey is sensitive to too many pellets and many types of greens.   Bailey will eat and eat and eat,  while Jack and Rucy take their time.

Rucy eats more pellets and can't eat too much cilantro - for some reason that seems to give her bloat.  And well, Jack, Jack can eat anything.   But he's not fond of apples.   So I think it's normal for rabbits to just be different.

If, however, something changes within their "own norm", like less appetite, then that would need to be looked into.

Regarding putting her stuff in a water bowl -  I have no idea.  Quite amazing actually - maybe she's trying to grow a garden!         I've never heard of this.  I will ask around.    


User is Offline Faye Perry
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8/22/2006 9:07 AM

When Mable eats the same amount of fresh stuff as Booboo, her poo's are really stinky and softer in appearance (they are still round, but look softer in texture - i think - as i'm not touching them to find out !) Thats why I give Mable less. I'm still waiting for them to fart though - nothing yet!

They both like different thing though, Mable loves celery leaves and a bit of broccolli, whilst Booboo loves carrotts and leaves the broccolli.  I'm still trying different things, but they both go mad for dandilion leaves (which when giving them antibiotics i put down the centre and fold them up to give them - they didn't realise!)

As for Booboo and her water bowl, she put her chewing log in her water today, and she's always dipping her front paws in the water too, she stands with her two front feet in the bowl, especially when its hot.  Do you think she's really very intelligent and is trying to keep her things cool and fresh?? (Or am I just looking too deep??) :o) 

Talking of clever bunnies, we've taught Mable to come to us when we ask her to 'give us kisses' and she comes running, when you put your head down she licks you face!! and if you move up she stands on her back legs to carry on!! (not always that nice when she's been eating those stinky poo's mentioned above) I will try and get a photo - its so cute x


User is Offline Sarah Jones
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8/22/2006 1:55 PM
my bunny has been trained to do precisely nothing! yay! i want mine to come lick me when i call! after all i did lick him once! he never grooms back though even though i'm always grooming him!

i have found myself picking up bunny cr@p without a second thought whether it's soft or hard! but then dougal also did a fart the other day and i found it hilarious so i guess we're on the same sort of wavelength.

i may never mature hee.

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8/24/2006 9:07 PM
Posted By bunnybabe on 08/22/2006 11:07 AM

When Mable eats the same amount of fresh stuff as Booboo, her poo's are really stinky and softer in appearance (

Mable loves celery leaves and a bit of broccolli, whilst Booboo loves carrotts and leaves the broccolli. 

Broccoli can cause gas and/or digestive upsets with some bunnies and so since Mable eats brocolli, and Boo doesn't, maybe that is what is causing the difference? Also, do you notice if Mable eats less hay? Also, some bunnies have more sensitive digestive systems. I feed the exact same healthy diet to all three of my bunnies, but one is more likely to get soft poos, so she has to get an even more strict diet.
Posted By bunnybabe on 08/22/2006 11:07 AM
As for Booboo and her water bowl, she put her chewing log in her water today, and she's always dipping her front paws in the water too, she stands with her two front feet in the bowl, especially when its hot.  Do you think she's really very intelligent and is trying to keep her things cool and fresh?? (Or am I just looking too deep??) :o) 

I find that so cute, but I also don't know why she does that.   Does she end up rubbing her paws over her ears after that?  Or does she just stand in it.   Such a funny habit.  And I wouldn't be surprised if she is intelligent enough to use this a cooling technique.  Bunnies are always more inteliigent than what most people give them credit for.    I will be asking around about that behavior.   It is a mystery to me.

I'd love to see pictures of her giving you guys bunny kisses!


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8/24/2006 10:13 PM

No Mable will eat the most hay out of both of them - its sounding quite like i have a greedy rabbit on my hands. I will cut down on Mable's broccilli, but they only have a small amount.  Whats cabbage like for them, as Mable loves this too...

Come to think if it, Mable is always the one to gobble the fresh stuff down first (no matter if i hide it in the cage), where as Booboo will rumage in the bowl and eat both fresh and pellets.  Booboo's dish is always empty the next time it comes to feeding, where as Mable will have pellets left! How bizzarre bunnies are.

I haven't seen Booboo wet her ears or face with her wet paws, she's more likely to start attacking the mineral lick thing in her cage, which makes her paws go bright pink.

I will get a picture of Mable giving bunny kisses, but don't laugh at the state of my house...we're doing it up and its decorated in 'old lady' styleee!!


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8/25/2006 3:44 AM
Afraid I can't offer any advice about the poop, but I just wanted to chime in about the feet in the water dish thing.  Sable does it too.  It's so funny, though he does seem to spend a bit of time washing his face afterwards.  Maybe his little tongue doesn't get his paws wet enough for a good scrub.  Or maybe his tongue get tired and he's found the water easier.

I like getting kisses from Sable after he's been chewing on his hay cubes .. such sweet breath!  Lucky I haven't had to experience the post poop-eating breath!!!
Sable's Mom

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8/30/2006 9:31 PM

FYI:  Bunnies normally don't need a mineral block unless they are ill and have some kind of deficiency.  The mineral blocks can cause a whole host of problems, from too much of one kind of mineral to an imbalance in their digestive system.  (which can also lead ot poopybutt) 

You'll find many pet supply places say it's good,  but mineral blocks, salt blocks and vitamins are really not ideal for bunnies.

 


User is Offline Faye Perry
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8/31/2006 9:27 AM
OMG i didn't know that!  Well my two buns will NOT be having any more of those.  I think they preferred scratching at them more than eating them, as there would always be a pile of the stuff under where it was hanging (hence the pink paws) but thanks for the info x

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