BINKYBUNNY FORUMS > HOUSE RABBIT Q & A > Always Spay/Neuter Your Rabbits!
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11/15/2012 2:37 PM
<P>Cotton is my unspayed bunny. She is 6 years old and has recently starting having blood in her urine. Turns out her uterus is dialated with fluid and blood. Anti-biotics aren't seeming to help. Her vet has ruled out an infection by testing her urine. He says she needs to be spayed but he isn't advising me to do that b/c of her age. He says within a couple of days I need to either decide to do that or risk the spay surgery b/c it isn't good for her to remain this way. I'm afraid to try the spay b/c what if she dies during it... and I hate to put her to sleep when she isn't in pain and is happy and healthy otherwise. It isn't every time she urinates but it's enough to be a concern. I should've had her spayed when she was younger. I didn't understand the importance of it back then b/c she has been my first rabbit, and I didn't intend to ever have her around any other bunnies so I wasn't worried about accidental litters. </P>
<P>Has anyone ever experienced this kind of problem? What happens if left untreated? Does the bleeding just get worse and lead to pain and discomfort? Wouldn't it be putting her through too much to even try the spay surgery? But wouldn't it be awful to just take my happy lil' bunn in to be put to sleep? Both options are awful.</P>

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11/15/2012 2:53 PM
Hi Ginger, Given the circumstances, I personally would have her spayed if it was going to make a difference especially considering the alternatives, but that is something only you can decide on. Hopefully some of the others will have experience with spaying older buns.
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11/15/2012 4:23 PM
I would be afraid of this progressing further. You can have blood work done to check to see if she is healthy enough for surgery. If she is and if it were me, I would choose to have the spay done.

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11/15/2012 5:41 PM
I just found and read this. I wish I'd have had her spayed :'(

http://www.rabbitnetwork.org/articl...spay.shtml

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11/15/2012 7:33 PM
Ginger, I'm so sorry to hear about Cotton. Did the vet give you a diagnosis or any explanation of her symptoms? I would consult with your vet regarding whether she is healthy enough for a spay and the associated anesthesia. Is your vet comfortable/experienced with the procedure?
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11/17/2012 12:42 PM
He said a spay should fix the problem but isn't really comfortable with doin it bc of her age and rabbits don't do we'll with anesthesia anyway. He said he may find a tumor or cancer spread or nothing and could just do a clean spay. It would be 300.00 to do so and with the risk, I'm not sure if I should spend that much and not really know if it would help her or not. I want to do the spay. But what if the bleeding means she already has cancer spread? If I knew for sure it's fix her problem I'd do it without hesitation. It's just a touch decision. Mainly bc she's still happy and playing and eating well.

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11/17/2012 1:01 PM

I would do the spay. Your vet said she can't stay like this for long, so what's the alternative, except putting her to sleep? I would do it, now, because if she doesn't have cancer yet, she most likely will get it if you let more time pass, judging by the fact that she already has problems. If she develops cancer down the road, you will wish you would have done it when you had the chance.

Our bunny had cancer, but we didn't know it when we had him have surgery for what we thought was possibly a pocket of fluid. The vet wanted to lance it and ended up finding cancer. Looking back, yes I wish the surgery hadn't happened and he could have spent his last weeks in peace. But even if we had suspected it, we still would have gone through with the procedure at the time, we would have wanted to make sure we did everything possible for him.

If your vet knew FOR SURE that she has cancer, I would leave her be. But since he doesn't, I would try.
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11/17/2012 5:25 PM

If your vet isn't comfortable doing the spay, then you do you have another rabbit-savvy vet in your area for a second opinion?     Rabbits can be spayed later but they need to have blood tests to make sure they are healthy enough.  My bunny Rucy had to go through surgery (for a tooth issue), when she was older than six, and though there are risks, her blood tests came back fine and she did well under anesthesia, but it is vital that you have an experienced vet that feels comfortable. 

The other concern is doing all of this and then finding out it had spread. I understand why you would be hesitant. I don't know of any way to know for sure, which might be a good idea to get a second opinion if you have a rabbit-savvy vet to go to. 

I know this is a very hard decision and that you love your bunny.  You are in a difficult place of trying to decide to end her suffering earlier, or possibly give her more time (even with risks) with no guarantees.   It's a rough spot to be in and I am sorry for that. 

Another resource for a rabbit-savvy opinion is through Dana Krempels from allexperts.com  http://www.allexperts.com/ep/703-35...s-Ph-D.htm  (OH RATS, I just noticed she is on vacation until December 12th.)


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11/17/2012 6:29 PM
No, there's not a vet that's good with rabbits less than about an hour away from here, accept the one I go to. He told me my next option would be to take Cotton to the University Of Georgia to the doctor who examined Cotton's X-rays. But I would need a referral and I'm sure my vet could do that but it's a decently far drive and if my vet is gonna charge 300.00, there's no telling what UGA would charge. I did think of Dana Krempels and had already discovered her absence... The vet I take her to did do surgery at the beginning of this year to remove a rather large lipoma from her chest. Her blood work was great and he did a great job. I spoke with him then about spaying her and removing a small lipoma he couldn't get in that surgery. The plan was to wait and let her recover and follow up. This was in March. Well, my mom had breast cancer and soon after Cotton's surgery I had to start caring for her full time bc she got worse. She passed away in July. So I haven't had time to recollect myself and deal with my plans for Cotton, and now this.

If she wasn't bleeding I would just do the spay. But I'm afraid it means she has cancer spread and the vet can't confirm or deny it and I can't find anyone who can. It could probably be either way. He would just have to operate to see. By the way, the small lipoma he didn't get before is now larger, so that pose a problem later on too.

It is so tough. I'm just having to look at Cotton's health from all aspects here. Which the lipoma is no big deal, she's still fine. She still runs and plays like normal. My fear is that something will rupture or something will cause her to bleed out while I'm at work or gone on errands. I'm getting terrified of leaving her, and having her put to sleep would relieve that. But I still don't know if my worry is in vain. I still need to know if I NEED to have her put to sleep.

Her vet took 2 X-rays and had a specialist at UGA examine them, and he didn't see a tumor or signs of cancer. Her uterus is dialated and swelled with fluid and blood. Her vet also took a urine sample since she tinkled on the table as he examined her. She is always scared there, but I'm sure all bunnies are and he handles her well. So, he said the urine didn't show infection. I asked if giving a blood sample or anything else while I had her there would help and he said no. That we should just wait and see how UGA read the X-rays. So I'm thinking maybe he thought the read would show something worse and just wanted to spare the extra trouble at the time? I'm not sure.

I wish I knew enough about it to make an EDUCATED decision. Even though I love her and am attached, if I knew what was going on was bad or was cancer I'd definitely have her put to sleep. But the not knowing is killing me. It's like ignorance of the situation is going to kill Cotton I wish there were more rabbit savvy vets and/or people to talk to in this area. At times, my experiences with Cotton have almost motivated ME to become a vet.

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11/17/2012 6:45 PM
The vet that did surgery to remove the tumor on her earlier in the year is the same vet that is worried about doing the spay? I mean she's now not yet a full year older so, what was his concern about the anesthesia if her tests came back okay? I know you said "He said a spay should fix the problem but isn't really comfortable with doin it bc of her age and rabbits don't do we'll with anesthesia" But she did well under his care when he operated before, so I am just a bit confused. Or is it that he is not comfortable with the spay procedure.

Edited to add:   I am so sorry for what you have had to go through with you mom!   That is rough stuff!!! Hugs to you. 


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11/17/2012 9:14 PM
Thanks for your condolences! I'm sure my mom is happy now. But I'M left with life and everyday choices now and I miss her. And I wish she were here for me to consult <3

And yes.. Cotton's vet is the same vet that did the lipoma removal with Cotton earlier this year. I'm not sure what his concerns are about the spay unles he's never done one or unless he's holding something back. All I know if he said its just not something he would look forward to. Not something he would want to do. Bc of her age and the fact that rabbits don't do well with surgery anyway bc they don't do well with anesthesia. But then again, it sounded like he would if I choose that. He is an exotics vet and does see other rabbits as well as cats and dogs. Again - I feel like I'm in the dark though.. And wish I could know the "behind the scenes" with this situation.

He's good at replying to emails so I emailed him Friday morning and said I want the spay but am still undecided as to what's best for Cotton. And I sent him the link I provided above and said I had read it and was concerned, and haven't heard back from him yet. So.. Maybe that's a good thing. Maybe he has found some new info or something...

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11/18/2012 1:54 AM
Does the vet think this is pyrometra? That is very fatal in rabbits and I'm sure she is in pain if it is.

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11/18/2012 3:02 AM

I'm sorry to hear about this situation. I don't have any advice that the others haven't given, but I just want to let you know that we are all here to help you through whatever decision you make. I know how hard it is to have a very sick bunny.

I would also like to offer my condolences on the loss of your Mom.

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11/18/2012 3:04 AM
I'm so sorry to hear about your mom passing. That is heartbreaking...

How long have you had your bunny and how long have you been seeing this vet? Did you move to a new area and he's a newer vet? Did he ever recommend spaying in the past (when she would have been younger and healthier)? Was this something that was recommended to you and you chose not to do?

I question this because it's very well-known that spaying reduces much of the cancer risk in rabbits, so not recommending this be done *at any point* in your vet-client relationship is, in my opinion, negligent. It makes me think he's not comfortable spaying at all, again, unless he is a new vet you JUST starting seeing. (If that is the case, who was your vet prior to her Lipoma surgery?)

If he won't spay, I would seek out a vet that is further away to perform the surgery.
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11/18/2012 4:41 AM
Sarita - No, the vet didn't mention pyrometra. I've never heard of it but I'll look it up. Cotton doesn't seem to be in pain. She is still playing and eating well. I haven't seen a hint of pain yet.

LittlePuffyTail - Thank you for your concern and for your condolences about my mom

Beka - Thank you for your condolences as well.
This past spring around Easter marked 6 years for me and Cotton. She was just a few weeks old when my husband got her for me that March so I always figured she was born in February.
The vet I take her to now isn't a new vet but is a new vet to us. When I first got her, I took her to a local vet that does have some experience with rabbits. Then when she was about a year old she stopped eating and pooping and I took her back and he said she had a blockage and told me to give her a diluted mixture of grapefruit juice with a small syringe ever 6 hours. Thank goodness that worked and she didn't have to have surgery then.
I don't remember him suggesting a spay, and that was the last time I took her to the vet bc she never had anymore problems. I didn't see a reason to take her to the vet if she wasn't sick, and time just passed.
Until the lipoma enlarged on her chest over the past winter and I took her back. He said more than likely it was a tumor and would swell and burst within 3 to 6 months and I would have to put her to sleep before that happened, when she started showing signs of discomfort.
So I found the vet I take her to now to get a second opinion and things worked out. It was just a lipoma. I don't think badly of her other vet. I just think maybe he has more experience with outdoor or farm rabbits? I'm not sure. But I think he must not have much experience with indoor rabbits bc when i took Cotton to him about the lump on her chest, I asked him what an average lifespan is for a rabbit and he said it depends, but generally 4-6 years, and Cotton is 6 now and I should be happy she has had a happy life with me.
I am happy she has been happy with me, but I know that indoor rabbits normally have a longer lifespan than that. Or atleast that's what I've read so many times online.

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11/18/2012 10:43 AM
Oh, ok. That make sense. Vets that deal with rabbits more as livestock, rather than pets, may not suggest a spay, especially since their clients are more likely to be using them for breeding.

Please keep us posted on what you decide to do.
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11/18/2012 2:08 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your mom. It's awful that you're having to deal with this now after having to deal with that.

I still think the spay is the best way to go. If it turns out to be a worst case scenario (the vet finds cancer in there), then you do have the option to just have her not wake up. I know that sounds awful, but if you're worried about putting her through all that only to find out that she has cancer then it could be a way to just end the suffering right there. It sounds though like there is a good chance she doesn't have cancer and spaying her ASAP will fix the problem.

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11/19/2012 9:55 PM
I have yet to spay a rabbit over the age of 5 (that was not making babies constantly) that did NOT turn out to have some stage of uterine cancer, so I am pretty sure that is what your bunny has. However, uterine cancer is very slow to spread, and often a spay will cure them. The longer you wait, though, the more likely the cancer will spread (usually to the lungs, but sometimes also/or the liver or mammary glands). This is one of the few cancers that has a really good prognosis if you do something about it soon. Rabbits with uterine cancer are not generally any harder to spay than those without it... in fact, they are often easier to spay as the uterus is much larger and easier to manipulate.

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11/20/2012 7:02 AM
Thank you, lzrddr, for your professional insight! That is interesting about a spay often being easier when cancer is present. It would make sense that rabbits over the age of 5 would have some type of cellular changes. The oft-quoted stat that we hear is "85% risk by the age of 4". So depending on how slowly it spreads, you could potentially still have a seemingly healthy 5, 6, or 7-year-old rabbit.

Again Ginger, please keep us posted.
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11/20/2012 4:20 PM
I am taking Cotton to the vet to give a blood sample for the necessary testing before the spay. He will perform the spay on either Monday or Tuesday of next week. I will hate to have did this if it turns out to be all for nothing but its either this or put her to sleep or leave her untreated with the dread of the unknown. This Saturday will be 2 weeks since the bleeding started. I wish I had've made a faster decision and scheduled the spay for this week. The vet said that since the antibiotic didn't stop the bleeding, that means she has something more than infection in the uterus and confirmed that yes it must be cancer. He did warn me of the risk of surgery/anesthesia and said he plans to call me if things just look terribly bad when he opens her. I plan to ask him to just euthanize her at that point if it really is that bad bc I don't want to put her through the pain and discomfort of not only recovery but the misery that would surely follow as well But hopefully all will go well and the cancer is localized to only her uterus and she will have a happy few more years. I will update and thanks so much to all of you for the support. This is an awesome site! What else would people like me do?!

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11/20/2012 6:58 PM
I'm so sorry to read this-I'm just catching up now. I think it's wonderful your going through with the spay, it sounds like thats the best chance and for sure will reduce or eliminate any pain she's feeling.

If I can help at all with your worries, it's not uncommon for shelters to have animals including rabbits fixed as late as 8 or even later. I've definitely heard of it, and with the presurgery bloodwork it's almost status quo, same as doing a younger bunny.

I would suggest getting pain medication to take home after the spay, metacam is the usual. It really helps them recover quicker. Some vets are hesitant (I think likely due to their delicate GI tracts and the fact that metacam can irritate stomachs) but all in all it's better to give the metacam as they'll eat quicker if not in pain.

Keep us posted, {{Easy Surgery Vibes}}
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11/21/2012 12:50 AM
I'm glad to hear you are going through with the spay. I'm hopeful, but even if it does turn out bad, then you will at least know you did all you could. You are a wonderful bunny parent.

I will be thinking about you both. Please keep us updated.

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11/21/2012 4:08 AM
I'm glad to hear you've made this decision. It makes sense to trust the vet to euthanize if she is in really bad shape. I know it will be tragic if that happens, but you will be preventing further pain and if it is cancer, it is a decision you'd have to make sooner or later anyways. I'm hoping that this isn't the case tho and she does well and is with you for many more years!
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11/23/2012 1:32 PM
Ok it's gonna be later in the week next week before I can get her in for the spay due to my work schedule. the blood work will be done hopefully Monday or Tuesday. I will update as soon as I have some news. Thank you guys again! Ihope the spay goes well and she is fine with the anesthesia.

Ginger

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11/24/2012 8:29 PM
Sending easy surgery and healthy life vibes your way (and peace vibes for you!)

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11/25/2012 5:03 AM
I just want to add my wishes for a successful procedure and easy recovery for Cotton. Also, my sincerest condolences on the loss of your mother. What a tough year you are having. I am glad you are finding some support here. Keep us updated on your progress, or just any other worries you have along the way. Hugs.
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11/28/2012 5:17 AM
Sorry to hear of all these terrible things. Just know, if nothing else, this might save Velvet from a terrible ending, after reading this thread I have her set to be spayed on Jan 16th. She will be 3 on Feb 5th 2013. The Dr. was a bit concerned because he's never spayed a rabbit that old before, and was concerned about the anesthesia part, but hopefully all will be well. Thank you for posting this, it may save a lot of other lives.

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12/03/2012 1:03 PM
Cotton had her surgery today and is back home with me now on the couch all cozy and resting on her favorite blanket!

Her uterus does have some signs of something. There were some bad spots for sure. Her vet can't confirm it's cancer without sending it out for biopsy. But from her history it's more than likely cancer. I hve a few weeks to decide if I want it sent for biopsy. I'm not sure if its worth the extra cost knowing probably what it is.
Her vet usually checks the cervix and insides as much as possible after removing the uterus but he said Cotton's heart rate slowed so he wrapped things up. She also had a small lump on her belly that wasn't noticeable until they shaved her for surgery, so he removed that too. It was very small. Marble size, if not a little smaller.
He gave her enough meds for pain to last all day today, and also sent enough meds home with us to last her through Thursday.
She has been nibbling at some kale and apple slices so that is good.
The vet said maybe this will give me a few more months with her and I'm really hoping for as much time as I can have with her now. Of course I plan to keep her spoiled rotten and enjoy her as much as possible! I'm so happy things turned out as good as they have. I wish nothing bad had been found but I was expecting it anyway, and I got to bring her home with me
Thanks again to everyone for your input, info, and support. I love this site!

Also to Velvet:
I'm so glad this has made you schedule a spay for your rabbit! I'm so glad Cotton's case has caused something good for another bunn

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12/03/2012 1:52 PM
Healing Vibes for Little Cotton... Glad the surgery went well... Hopefully it will give you more than a few months.
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12/03/2012 1:54 PM
I'm so happy for you and Cotton. And I'm glad you're are working to give her a long and prosperous life with you! Keep us up to date on how she's doing as the days progress and what you decide to ultimately do about getting a biopsy or not! Healing vibes for Cotton!!!!

And Velvet, so happy to hear you're taking your girl soon too! Keep us updated on how she does and start a thread if you need any questions answered or have any concerns or just need moral support! (I've been there, I know how anxious and stressed out it can make us!)
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12/03/2012 3:21 PM
I'm very glad to hear that Cotton's surgery is over and that she is back home with you. I hope that you have a long time to come to spend with her.

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12/04/2012 12:52 AM
Glad to hear Cotton is home, and thanks again for the education about spaying, I just thought, "no boys around, why worry."

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12/04/2012 2:09 AM
I'm glad she made it through surgery okay. Wishing you both a long and happy time together. **Hugs**
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12/04/2012 9:42 AM
That's EXACTLY the way I thought of it Velvet!!! I'm so happy for you that you learned earlier than me.

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12/04/2012 10:25 AM
Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thank-you for posting this thread, and my prayers for Cotton.

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12/05/2012 3:04 AM
I'm so glad she made it through and is in recovery!!!

Healing vibes for Ginger!!!
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12/05/2012 10:21 AM
Yay! I'm glad things turned out well for Cotton. Even if it is cancer, it is possible it hasn't spread anywhere else yet. She could have more time than you think. Keep us updated. =)

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12/06/2012 8:25 PM
How's she doing post-surgery. Keep us updated.

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12/07/2012 1:43 PM
I worried about her that first night bc she seemed so sleepy still and slow breathing and I was afraid she would go to sleep and not wake up. But she's pretty much back to her old self now. She doesn't run and jump as much, which I'm trying to keep her from jumping while she still has staples in, but she's perky and plays as usual. When i came home the day after the surgery there was some blood in her litter box. Her vet called the next morning (Wednesday) to check on her and he said it may be a clot or some drainage that didn't come out right after the spay, and just to watch her. It hasn't happened anymore and she's happy and eating really good I just hope this has done her some good. Time will tell.

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12/07/2012 9:11 PM
Sounds like she's healing okay as of now. So that alone is a big whew! We are all pulling for good long-term results! I know this was hard on you. She is very lucky to have such a caring loving human take such good care of her and provide her with the best possible chance. She is probably recovering well because of that too.

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12/09/2012 3:08 AM
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12/10/2012 6:47 PM
Cotton is healing wonderfully. I'm gonna have to contact the vet and ask when the staples can come out. She's acting and has been acting just as fine as before the spay

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12/11/2012 1:08 AM
Glad to hear it
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12/11/2012 10:27 AM
I'm glad that Ginger is doing so well!

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12/11/2012 3:42 PM
Hi Ginger!
I haven't been on BB for a while and today I came across your post. As I was reading, I felt very touched by your situation. I couldn't begin to imagine what you were feeling. I wouldn't know what to do in the situation but I am very glad that you have BB to support you through this bad time and a hard decision.. I skipped to the end and I am so happy for you that you decided to do the spay and your bunny is recovering well! Very good news


Wishing you and your bun the best !

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12/16/2012 5:51 AM

Hi Ginger. Please give us an update about Cotton!


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12/20/2012 3:09 PM

She's wonderful! She still has the staples in. This coming Monday, Christmas Eve, will be 3 weeks since she had the surgery. I've been working non-stop but I'm gonna have to take some time out to take her to have the staples taken out, preferably before Christmas. Even if it's somewhere closer to home than her vet's office. I believe somewhere local would remove her staples if that's all they have to do. That's what I did at the beginning of the year when she had her other surgery.

Cotton says thank you for all those good vibes and wishes I've been getting!

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12/21/2012 4:16 PM
Wonderful news!!
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12/21/2012 5:11 PM
Yay for Cotton!
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User is Offline LBJ10
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12/21/2012 5:41 PM
Glad Cotton is doing so well!

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12/21/2012 8:21 PM
Whoohooo! Binkies!

User is Offline Ginger
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12/24/2012 3:00 PM
Yes she has been doing a few binkies! I took her to have her staples out this past Saturday and she was so good and now it's all finished. I'm so happy we have some more time together
Thank u all so much!

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12/24/2012 7:53 PM
i just caught up with this whole thread and i'm so glad it has a happy ending!

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12/25/2012 2:50 AM
Glad to hear she is doing well. Hoppy Holidays to you both.
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1/19/2013 8:22 AM

Well, Velvet was dropped off on Jan 16th at 8:00am, and spayed. Picked her up around 11:00. She looked pretty rough, lots of dried stuff on her face, almost looked like she'd been crying a bunch of tears, poor thing. I gave her some lettuce and water and she started eating a piece of lettuce then stopped chewing. I think she fell asleep, had to talk to her to wake her up and start eating again. It's Jan 19th now and she's doing fine, except, she's not a happy camper with me right now...............................................

 

RABBITS WILL HOLD A GRUDGE, trust me, I'm her least favorite person at the moment, but, she was cancer free so that's a good sign especially for a three year old.

 

Well, she's eating and using her litter box so that's a good sign, now if we can just work on being forgiven......................lol.


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1/19/2013 8:34 AM
Aw poor little Velvet. Good for you in getting this done though. Her discomfort will pass and hopefully her grudge. ; )

I'm surprised you were able to pick her up so early. She must have been so groggy. Their eyes do look icky but it's just the ointment they use to stop the eyes drying out while under anaesthetic.

Whoever says "It's only a rabbit" has obviously never loved a rabbit.

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1/19/2013 12:00 PM
Posted By jerseygirl on 01/19/2013 11:34 AM
Aw poor little Velvet. Good for you in getting this done though. Her discomfort will pass and hopefully her grudge. ; )

I'm surprised you were able to pick her up so early. She must have been so groggy. Their eyes do look icky but it's just the ointment they use to stop the eyes drying out while under anaesthetic.

 

Well, they want them to be brought home ASAP so you can get them started eating and drinking and everything moving again, no food after midnight before surgery. I thought it looked like ointment, that or tears dried on her face. I took a warm wash cloth and tried washing her face, she seemed to like it, and then started washing her own face, it's still messed up but getting better, she came upstairs for the first time this morning, but, I'm still the bad guy. My 2yo grandson can walk right up and pet her no problem, but, she hates me at the moment. Can't blame her I guess.

 

Watching Kolton (grandson ) with her, makes me think I was about that age when I got my first bunny, my dad took me fishing and there was a pump house by the dock with a wild rabbit in a muskrat trap, I cried and cried, and he got me a chocolate dutch. Before long she was a house bunny too. Barely remember those times as I'm a grown 53 yo man now! Rabbits have always had mind control over me I guess. Velvet started out as my 13 yo daughters rabbit, she's mine now and daughter says I spoil her, but, that's what she's for isn't she? And she was NEVER coming in the house my wife said, now she goes where ever she want too. lol





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1/19/2013 2:16 PM
I'm glad that Velvet's surgery is over with and that she did well. I bet that she will forgive you very soon.

Rabbits are not supposed to fast before surgery. Sometimes a receptionist will tell you that, because she is used to saying it to dog and cat owners. But if the vet tells you that, then it means that he or she is not a very rabbit savvy vet.

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1/19/2013 6:06 PM
Ditto about the fasting. I was concerned reading that but very glad it didn't have adverse effect on Velvet and that she's been eating since.

Velvet started out as my 13 yo daughters rabbit, she's mine now and daughter says I spoil her, but, that's what she's for isn't she?

Haha, yes! Definitely : )
Whoever says "It's only a rabbit" has obviously never loved a rabbit.

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1/19/2013 7:21 PM
Nice to see someone else had a quick trip at their vets, almost a month ago I dropped my girls off for their spay at 9:30ish and got a call from the vets just on noon to say that they were out of recovery and able to be picked up... so obviously the vets started the surgeries early, the time before I didn't pick my bunny up until 4pm because they started the surgeries later and she took some time to recover.

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1/20/2013 3:21 AM
I'm glad to hear she made it through her surgery all right.

My vet usually keeps them longer as well, for spay/neuters we usually only pick them up around suppertime.
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1/20/2013 3:23 AM
Posted By jerseygirl on 01/19/2013 09:06 PM
Ditto about the fasting. I was concerned reading that but very glad it didn't have adverse effect on Velvet and that she's been eating since.

Velvet started out as my 13 yo daughters rabbit, she's mine now and daughter says I spoil her, but, that's what she's for isn't she?

Haha, yes! Definitely : )

 

Well, they did say to get her started eating as soon as I possibly can, they said water was fine all night

 

Thanks to Ginger for starting this thread.

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1/20/2013 3:28 AM
Posted By Ginger on 12/20/2012 06:09 PM

She's wonderful! She still has the staples in. This coming Monday, Christmas Eve, will be 3 weeks since she had the surgery. I've been working non-stop but I'm gonna have to take some time out to take her to have the staples taken out, preferably before Christmas. Even if it's somewhere closer to home than her vet's office. I believe somewhere local would remove her staples if that's all they have to do. That's what I did at the beginning of the year when she had her other surgery.

Cotton says thank you for all those good vibes and wishes I've been getting!

 

Staples? Never mentioned any staples with velvet. Cotton must have had some serious surgery................. glad to hear she's doing so well.

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