 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/12/2012 08:30 AM |
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Twice this week I've found blood in Jellys pen. It's been near a fairly clear pee puddle. Im wondering if its from his bladder or possibly his butt? Would blood from bladder be separated from the pee though? As if its come out first or after the pee? He has been drinking more and peeing outside of the box a little so it's possible there's an infection... But with blood?? I've checked him over but cannot see where else it's coming from. We will be going to vet for this and review of his abscess treatment. I'm just wondering what possibilties are I guess. |
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 KokaneeandkahluaEdmonton, Alberta; Canada
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/12/2012 08:45 AM |
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I had checked them over. He does have small little sores on the hock but they don't look like having recently bled. No blood in the fur near by. He could have groomed it clean but they just don't look irritated enough. Idk |
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 Sarita(Dallas)
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| 10/12/2012 08:49 AM |
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I'm not sure...can you express his bladder and see if you can get him to pee in the sink and see what it looks like? I say try that and see. |
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 KokaneeandkahluaEdmonton, Alberta; Canada
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/12/2012 08:53 AM |
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Ooh good idea! The first time I saw it, i was worried he might have got nipped because Tim attempt to get him thru the bars. |
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/12/2012 08:56 AM |
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Sorry Sarita, I didn't see your reply before. I haven't been shown how to do that. Is it just pushing up on the bladder? Would it be painful for him if this is from his bladder though? |
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 Sarita(Dallas)
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| 10/12/2012 09:24 AM |
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What I usually do is put there feet in the seek and start pressing to give the sensation to pee - it may be painful but it is what a vet is going to do to try to express any urine from their bladder and it is what I have done to help sludge pass through on my bladder sludge buns. That is probably the only way you will be able to see if their is urine in the blood - make sure you put the stopper on the drain so it doesn't drain down before you can look at it. You may not be able to see if but it's worth a try so you can at least examine the urine. |
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 MimzMumInterior Alaska
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| 10/12/2012 01:19 PM |
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Jeez Jerz, I'm sorry to see Jelly is having troubles.  I can't offer anymore than has been said but wanted to add plenty of ((((((((((((healing vibes)))))))))))). ((((((((((Huge hugs )))))))))))) for you! I hope whatever it is it's quickly sorted.  |
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Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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 peppypooTexas
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| 10/14/2012 06:38 PM |
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Aww, poor Jelly! I have no additional tips to add but I hope you find out what's bothering him, and that he's alright. |
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| Tammo (RIP), Milo (RIP), Peppy, Remi |
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 MimzMumInterior Alaska
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| 10/14/2012 11:29 PM |
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Adding vibes and hopes for an update ((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))) |
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Mimzy, Pip & Fiver...yup...my day is all about them. :)
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 RabbitPamSouth Florida
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| 10/15/2012 03:49 AM |
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Have you guys been to the vet yet? It's been a few days since you started this post, so I am wondering what you learned. {{{{{{Healing vibes}}}}}}}} |
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Have your people call my people. We'll do carrots. |
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 bullrider76543Joplin MO
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| 10/15/2012 04:00 AM |
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Waiting on pins and needles, we hope everything is ok,((((((((healtthy vibes)))))))) |
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/15/2012 07:35 AM |
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Oh thanks so much everyone. Our appt is tomorrow. Technically today as its 4am here. I'm positive it's from the bladder as I found more today. This time some blood mixed with some sediment from bladder. And quite a bit on his blanket. Poor little dude. I hope it's not giving him too much pain. He hides discomfort extremely well I've learnt. Will keep you posted. |
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/15/2012 06:49 PM |
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Been to the vet. She's treating for suspected cystitis so Jellys going to be on baytril and metacam. She couldn't feel any stones so hopefully there are none. I'm glad for the metacam. I hate to think he's had pain. On a good note, his dental situation seems stable. : ) There has been no growth of the jaw abscess since it burst open. It healed well and the meds seem to be keeping things at bay. I decided last minute to take Jersey in to piggyback Jellys appointment. The vet has a modified otoscope and I wanted her molars checked as she's sensitive about her cheeks been touched. Also she's been not managing food so well. The vet could see more saliva on one side which told her something was going on so Jersey is currently going under to have that checked. She's in safe hands but I do hate leaving them there. |
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 LittlePuffyTailNew Brunswick, Canada
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/16/2012 01:32 AM |
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Thanks LPT No Jelly hasn't had any bladder problems that I've been aware of. I'm not sure why this has occurred. He's been drinking lots more which i thought was because his teeth might have been starting to bother him again. Hes also been peeing out of the box & his urine has been clear like water. Then the blood... Hopefully the antibiotic will sort it out for him. He's not going to like the baytril compared to the flagyl he's been having. He loves the flagyl! Jersey did well. Was pretty woozy once I brought her home but is eating already. I'm surprised as I thought she'd be too sore. They did give her pain med after waking. I even saw her attempting to eat hay this evening. O.O This is unheard of with Jersey! She had 2 points taken off upper teeth and multiple small ones off lower teeth on tongue side. I'm really interested to see what difference this will make for her over next few days. I realized on the way to the vet that her birth date is around this time, making her 5 years old. Poor thing, having me cart her if to the vet. I'll have to give her special treat when she's more recovered. It was an expensive day but I feel the bubs will be sorted now. Fingers crossed we can get them more comfortable. Thanks for the well wishes and vibes everyone. |
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 Sarita(Dallas)
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| 10/16/2012 02:33 AM |
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Poor Jelly - I hope the baytril clears it right up. Is the baytril compounded? He might like it if it's the right flavoring. Glad you got Jersey sorted out too - I don't think most people realize how dental points can affect a rabbit's health - I know when I have dental problems, I'm cranky and in pain too. Keep us updated on how she does. I like to do metacam for a few days after dental and sometimes reglan too (on Toffee, not Bobby, Bobby bounces back right away so far). |
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 KokaneeandkahluaEdmonton, Alberta; Canada
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 bullrider76543Joplin MO
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| 10/16/2012 05:04 AM |
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Best of luck and ((((((((Healing Vibes)))))))) |
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| 10/16/2012 10:17 PM |
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You sure it's blood? Rabbits can have 'red' urine sometimes (actually it tends to be a reddish orange) and it can look alarming... but it will not test positive on a urine dip stick. You can even put a black light down and if it glows, its porphyrin dye, not blood. Truly bloody urine is actually quite rare in rabbits and often indicates a large bladder stone, a tumor or an overwhelming infection. In 26 years, I have yet to see real blood in a rabbit's urine. Porphyrin dye is 'normal' but often indicates some sort of stress (even emotional stress, but more often physical stress, like overheating, trauma, a poor diet etc.). |
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 Skipper's MamaFlorida
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| 10/17/2012 12:03 PM |
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I'm glad Jersey is feeling better! ((Healing vibes)) for poor Jelly. I hope everyone gets better! |
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 jerseygirlAustralia
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| 10/17/2012 03:23 PM |
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Thanks all. Lzrddr, thanks for your input. When I saw the red, it was near by a very clear urine puddle but not mixed in it. Like it had come out before or after he had peed. i had read blood is not usually visible in the urine so this was very odd. I put some drops of hydrogen peroxide solution on it and it bubbled up. I read here that is a test you can use to identify blood. I do not know if it would react with other substances in the urine though. I have seen the very orange or red urine before and done this test and it has not reacted those times. My rabbit has been displaying other symptoms of urinary infection so I will give the antibiotics this week to try clear that up. If I see what I think is blood after this, I expect I'd have to have a urine sample tested. Possibly a blood test also. Porphyrin dye is 'normal' but often indicates some sort of stress (even emotional stress, but more often physical stress, like overheating, trauma, a poor diet etc.). That is interesting! I have not read this before. I had thought it due to different greens they had eaten. |
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