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Forum HOUSE RABBIT Q & A Bunny-Safe Insect Repellent

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    • JamieM
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        I’m just curious…  is there some type of bunny-friendly product or home remedy to insects in my home?  First, I have carpenter ants which I’ve informed my landlord of to no avail.  Also, I’m not sure what, but something is biting me in my sleep.  After washing my bedding, scrubbing out my carpets and even flipping the mattress over, I’m still getting bit.  I checked Layla so I know she doesn’t have any fleas…  my next thought is to spray or do something but I’m hesitant cause I don’t want to do anything that will hurt my bun.  Any ideas?


      • RabbitPam
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          Two suggestions: this was a frequent problem in my last apartment.
          First, a product called Terro, sold at Home Depot (not sure where else) that is good for tiny ants. You set a square of cardboard with a dime size drop of the liquid on a window sill, counter corner, etc. (places where the bunnies never go) and it attracts little ants resistant to all other products. They swarm, go back to the nest, disappear in about 3 days.

          The other is to call an exterminator that definitely uses the products they claim is safe around pets. I never truly believed them so I wouldn’t let them do the room where Spockie’s cage was (with him in it), but the rest of the apartment got squirts around the edges and windows, and it dissipated within a couple of hours. He never showed signs of harm.

          Any other suggestions I’D LOVE TO KNOW!


        • jerseygirl
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            Try trace where the ant nest is and put a bait there and make sure it’s unreachable for Layla. I’ve heard Lavender oil diluted in water as a spray can be good insect repellant. Eucalyptus and tea tree oils can also be used.
            Cold diluted tea sprayed on your bedding apparently can kill dust mites and I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that you can use cold tea to wipe a bunnies eyes, so I’m guessing a spray would be safe!


          • kittsbuns
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              My mom swore that cucumber peels would get rid of ants she also used Terro to. I don’t know if cucumber are a no no for bunnies but if you had a safe place for Terro I sure it would work.


            • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                I’ve been reading alot alot of bunny health articles lately and keep reading that products that are safe for horses are safe for rabbits…maybe you could look into that route? I’d really get an exterminator in, if I was getting bit! I hate bug bites LOL


              • Erbear
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                  The ant hotel things are a great idea. You can always kill the ants on site by spraying them with a little soapy water.

                  As for the bed thing. You should get some glueboards. Or you can go to a home and garden store and get this stuff called tangle foot or tangle trap and spread it on cardboard. Place them near/under your bed to see if anything is crawling there.

                  Here’s our companie’s blurb on ‘No see ums’

                  “Delusional Parasitosis
                  In delusional parasitosis, sufferers have a strong delusional belief that they are infested with parasites, whereas in reality no such parasites are present. Very often the imaginary parasites are reported as being “bugs” crawling on or under the skin; in these cases the experience of the sensation known as formication may be the basis for this belief. Formication is a somewhat unusual, but medically well-known, abnormal sensation. This sensation closely resembles the feeling of insects crawling on and/or under the skin, and can also include sensations which resemble those of insects stinging or biting. People with delusional parasitosis are likely to ask for help not from psychiatrists but from pest control specialists, or entomologists.

                  Formication can also be caused by high electromagnetic field, EMF, levels. In an office setting the levels may be as much as 10,000 times the average exposure. People who are exposed to high EMF levels on a daily basis can begin to show signs of delusional parasitosis and in rare occasions they can become paranoid, angry or even hallucinate.
                  Putting a glue board down in the area where they believe the ‘insects’ are coming from can help determine what is going on. It also helps because you’re ‘doing something.’ If there is nothing on the glue board, then other avenues may need to be explored.”

                  Good luck!


                • JamieM
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                    Posted By Erbear2200 on 06/26/2008 1:10 PM
                    The ant hotel things are a great idea. You can always kill the ants on site by spraying them with a little soapy water.

                    As for the bed thing. You should get some glueboards. Or you can go to a home and garden store and get this stuff called tangle foot or tangle trap and spread it on cardboard. Place them near/under your bed to see if anything is crawling there.

                    Here’s our companie’s blurb on ‘No see ums’

                    “Delusional Parasitosis
                    In delusional parasitosis, sufferers have a strong delusional belief that they are infested with parasites, whereas in reality no such parasites are present. Very often the imaginary parasites are reported as being “bugs” crawling on or under the skin; in these cases the experience of the sensation known as formication may be the basis for this belief. Formication is a somewhat unusual, but medically well-known, abnormal sensation. This sensation closely resembles the feeling of insects crawling on and/or under the skin, and can also include sensations which resemble those of insects stinging or biting. People with delusional parasitosis are likely to ask for help not from psychiatrists but from pest control specialists, or entomologists.

                    Formication can also be caused by high electromagnetic field, EMF, levels. In an office setting the levels may be as much as 10,000 times the average exposure. People who are exposed to high EMF levels on a daily basis can begin to show signs of delusional parasitosis and in rare occasions they can become paranoid, angry or even hallucinate.
                    Putting a glue board down in the area where they believe the ‘insects’ are coming from can help determine what is going on. It also helps because you’re ‘doing something.’ If there is nothing on the glue board, then other avenues may need to be explored.”

                    Good luck!

                    I’m pretty sure I’m not delusional on this one but thanks for THAT heads up. 


                  • Kokaneeandkahlua
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                      LOL


                    • Scarlet_Rose
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                        Murphy’s Oil Soap works well also to repel insects, I use it to mop the floors. Do you think maybe (eek!) bed bugs? Do you have carpeting, wood floors, linoleum floors or…? I agree with the “ant motels” be very certain they are no where a bunny can munch on them though. I usually place mine outside. Also, are you on the ground floor?


                      • skunklionshow
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                          Castille soap I’m sure is similar to the Murphy’s oil.  I agree about the bed bugs…are you sure you don’t have them?  I have a friend that thought it was fleas and was shocked to discover bed bugs.  There is a way to tell the difference, so you might have to research that.  The problem w/ bed bugs is that cold weather doesn’t kill them b/c they go into a hibernation.  They can also get through the smallest of cracks or microscopic size holes, so they can be very difficult to kill.  I believe my friend had to move out and have her whole house exterminated.  She took her pets and lived w/ another friend for about a month.  Not to scare you.


                        • bunnytowne
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                            it has been on the news that bed bugs are making a comeback. and are hard to kill. yikes. hope thats not what it is. maybe an allergy to the bedding or something?


                          • JamieM
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                              Well I just got a new bed last fall…. If that’s the case though, seems like I’ll be getting a new bed. I haven’t noticed any new bites in the past couple of days which is good. My apartment is on the second story so yeah… The ants in my apartment haven’t responded to the Terro before cause they’re not sugar ants but those huge carpenter ants you find in the woods. There’s not a TON of ants… I probably see one or two a day… it’s a defect with the building, I know, cause I’ve already talked to contractor friends who say that it means the wood in the building is not treated well. Just glad I rent and don’t own!


                            • Scarlet_Rose
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                                I went to the PA extension office web site (http://www.extension.psu.edu/) they have a brochure that you look up a service number for information on a certain topic, in this case, carpenter ants (6401)

                                • Review the topics listed in the directory

                                and select the messages you want to

                                hear.

                                • Jot down the code number(s)

                                preceding the topic(s).

                                • Have a pencil and paper handy so you

                                can take notes.

                                • Dial the Solution Source telephone

                                number:

                                 

                                800-617-2950 or 724-983-2887.

                                 

                                • Follow the prompts to hear a recording

                                of the information you want.

                                 

                                Local extenstion offices can be a great resource for these types of things and suggest treatment/preventatives.  I have been donig some looking and it appears that the only real pest control for carpenter ants are harmful chemicals or pesticides and it is best to use the outdoor bait (outside naturally) or otherwise chemical fumagants and whatnot you do not want around your rabbits.

                                Here is information the TX extension office has online RE: carpenter ants:

                                http://citybugs.tamu.edu/FastSheets/Ent-1001.html

                                 

                                Here’s how to find the information you need:


                              • JamieM
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                                  Posted By Scarlet_Rose on 06/30/2008 5:17 PM

                                  I went to the PA extension office web site (http://www.extension.psu.edu/) they have a brochure that you look up a service number for information on a certain topic, in this case, carpenter ants (6401)

                                   

                                   

                                  You.  Are.  Aweseome. 


                                • Scarlet_Rose
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                                    You’re welcome.


                                  • MooBunnay
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                                      I just got my issue of “vegetarian times” and they have a whole article on natural insect repellents, here is a quick summary:

                                      Ants: Place whole fresh bay leaves in cupboards, drawers etc. (from the book “1001 All-Natural Secrets to a Pest Free Property” by Myles H. Bader. In addition you can put cinnamon, ground cayenne, baby powder, garlic (prob. wouldn’t smell so good!), or crushed mint in the ant’s path and they won’t cross it.

                                      Fleas: Put dishes of soapy water under warm lights to catch them (from the book “The Everything Green Living Book” by Diane Gow McDilda, and to prevent infestations, sprinkle salt on your carpet and vacuum it daily.

                                      Cockroaches (ewwwwww): Dissolve 1 capful of Dr. Bronners Pure Castille Soap (love that stuff!) to a quart of warm water, and spray it around the problem areas in your home.


                                    • skunklionshow
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                                        Vinegar is also a natural repellent.  Some suggest adding a few drops of apple cider vinegar to pet or human water to ward off fleas and/or mosquitos.  You can also use the apple cider vinegar like the castille in a bowl of water to catch bugs.


                                      • Lightchick
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                                          Moo Bunnay, where do you get Dr. Bronners Pure Castille Soap?  I’m down for anything that kills cockroaches!  Ick!

                                          I don’t know anything about bed-critters, but when I had an ant problem a couple years back, the exterminator said rather than bomb the whole apartment, I should sprinkle white flour in the problem areas.  Apparently, the ants can’t digest it, but they carry it back to their nest and accidentally exterminate themselves.  Sounds awfully vicious, but who wants the creepy-crawlies, right?!


                                        • RabbitPam
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                                            Posted By Lightchick on 07/04/2008 4:59 PM

                                            …where do you get Dr. Bronners Pure Castille Soap? 

                                            You can get it in liquid form in almost every health food store, like Whole Foods, and I think it’s getting even more mainstream. I was put off by the labels, but just read his history on their website and the labels were just his soapbox – literally. I’m guessing the bugs don’t like the unscented, since bugs usually like floral scents. I’m going to try the baby soap since it’s reputed to be good for allergies and sensitive skin.


                                          • MooBunnay
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                                              I get my Dr. Bronners at Whole Foods Market – I don’t know if it exterminates them or not, what it said in the article was that the don’t like the smell of it and it keeps them away…I’m not sure if it would kill an existing cockroach problem however, I would say its a good prevention technique though! And it smells pretty good

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